Grand Theft Auto V features voice-overs from real gang members. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;42077729]this makes absolutely no sense at all[/QUOTE] It makes perfect sense. If you're not an actor, there's a good chance you'll have a hard time portraying emotions and making yourself convincing. Just because you're a chef, it doesn't mean you could [I]play[/I] a chef in a film where you'd have to do lots of speaking and emoting. [QUOTE=RaxaHax;42075857] On a slightly thread-related note, I thought Max Payne 3 would be way better if Sam Lake wrote it.[/QUOTE] I thought the same, it's a shame he couldn't finish the trilogy.

[QUOTE=Drasnus;42079184]It makes perfect sense. If you're not an actor, there's a good chance you'll have a hard time portraying emotions and making yourself convincing. Just because you're a chef, it doesn't mean you could [I]play[/I] a chef in a film where you'd have to do lots of speaking and emoting.[/QUOTE]Or you end up playing it in a very realistic manner that accurately portrays the part.

[QUOTE=Drasnus;42079184]It makes perfect sense. If you're not an actor, there's a good chance you'll have a hard time portraying emotions and making yourself convincing. Just because you're a chef, it doesn't mean you could [I]play[/I] a chef in a film where you'd have to do lots of speaking and emoting.[/QUOTE] Exactly. If a movie were to be made about me (for some strange reason), I'd be able to say "Well, I wouldn't say it like that", or "I wouldn't do that." But I wouldn't be able to portray myself and do a good job, because I'm not an actor, so the performance would probably be really bad.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42079215]Or you end up playing it in a very realistic manner that accurately portrays the part.[/QUOTE] Is this supposed to be a counter argument

MP3 was a god damn amazing game. RDR was a god damn amazing game. GTAV isn't likely to break that trend. The ballad of Gay Tony was so awesome I can't even imagine how GTAV could suck. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Also, if you don't know about non actors taking on acting roles, please get informed and realize that non actors are every bit as capable as actors, in their specific and niche roles. Example, Sharlito Copley. Non actor. Now a brilliant actor. Many famous directors over the years have gone to non actors because they can portray some different attitudes. The thing about acting is there is no "right" acting methods. Just the right actors for the right parts.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42079215]Or you end up playing it in a very realistic manner that accurately portrays the part.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's very well possible, but it could also easily go the other way. That's not to say that since they're not trained actors, that they can't do a good job.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42076383]Saints Row 4 took the Far Cry Blood Dragon approach of "parody as much as you can at once" and I think it really worked. I still find Saints Row 2's humor better though because often when it happens it's completely unexpected (like what happens in the fight with the second in command of the Sons of Samedi)[/QUOTE] no, the approach saints row 4 took is ''if we spam sex humor lots of 12 year olds will pay for our $60 DLC". there comes a point when the subjectivity of the topic fades, when you're complaining that grand theft auto 4 was ''too talky''. the point of a game isn't to make people laugh. if you think a game has funny dialogue then great, but other people don't want to deal with relentless, cringy as fuck jokes while they're trying to play a game for the purpose of playing it.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42073646]It either took itself way too seriously or was so incredibly subtle in its self awareness that it was indistinguishable from taking itself way too seriously.[/QUOTE] A bit late on this but you realize Max Payne isnt GTA and Max Payne 3 involved a pretty much mass murdering drunkard who went through multiple tragedies [sp]being caught up in the middle of a god damn ORGAN HARVESTING RING[/sp] Why wouldnt it take itself seriously.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42079377]no, the approach saints row 4 took is ''if we spam sex humor lots of 12 year olds will pay for our $60 DLC". there comes a point when the subjectivity of the topic fades, when you're complaining that grand theft auto 4 was ''too talky''. the point of a game isn't to make people laugh. if you think a game has funny dialogue then great, but other people don't want to deal with relentless, cringy as fuck jokes while they're trying to play a game for the purpose of playing it.[/QUOTE] Have you ignored every single fucking point I made You saw the phrase "GTA 4" and "Talky" together and you immediately ignored everything else I said and made a bunch of retarded assumptions that you'd know aren't true if you had even a second graders reading comprehension. It's probably not worth the effort picking apart this post but I'm going to do it anyways. [quote]no, the approach saints row 4 took is ''if we spam sex humor lots of 12 year olds will pay for our $60 DLC".[/quote] Every post in this topic from people who have actually played the game has directly contradicted this, but I suppose playing the game doesn't give you any extra authority on judging it. [quote]there comes a point when the subjectivity of the topic fades, when you're complaining that grand theft auto 4 was ''too talky''. the point of a game isn't to make people laugh.[/quote] The post where I said it was too talky was the same exact post where I argued and provided examples of Saints Row 2 doing SERIOUS and DRAMATIC moments (read: not designed to make you laugh) better by having well written scenes with actual things happening and not having so much bloated dialogue. I don't know how you managed to extract the word "talky" from the post without actually reading it. [quote] if you think a game has funny dialogue then great, but other people don't want to deal with relentless, cringy as fuck jokes while they're trying to play a game for the purpose of playing it.[/quote] Literally the first criticism I posted of GTA 4 in this topic was the fact that the amount of dialogue kept me from actually getting to the gameplay. I'm starting to think you didn't play any Saints Row game OR GTA 4, but if that's the case I can't figure out why the hell you'd have such a strong opinion about it.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42079585]Have you ignored every single fucking point I made You saw the phrase "GTA 4" and "Talky" together and you immediately ignored everything else I said and made a bunch of retarded assumptions that you'd know aren't true if you had even a second graders reading comprehension. It's probably not worth the effort picking apart this post but I'm going to do it anyways. Every post in this topic from people who have actually played the game has directly contradicted this, but I suppose playing the game doesn't give you any extra authority on judging it. The post where I said it was too talky was the same exact post where I argued and provided examples of Saints Row 2 doing SERIOUS and DRAMATIC moments (read: not designed to make you laugh) better by having well written scenes with actual things happening and not having so much bloated dialogue. I don't know how you managed to extract the word "talky" from the post without actually reading it. Literally the first criticism I posted of GTA 4 in this topic was the fact that the amount of dialogue kept me from actually getting to the gameplay. I'm starting to think you didn't play any Saints Row game OR GTA 4, but if that's the case I can't figure out why the hell you'd have such a strong opinion about it.[/QUOTE] so because I didn't bother to quote every single post you made that is somehow a sign of insufficient reading capabilities. ok. your entire argument of why saints row 2 is better is that ''it has more action and less dialogue''. the vast majority of people who actually care about the writing of a game don't consider ''action'' to be a bi-product of good writing. ''Every post in this topic from people who have actually played the game'' people who willingly bought or pirated a game that is confirmed by the developers to be a DLC that turned into a full price standalone. said DLC being for a game that had an entire marketing campaign based around the concept of using a purple dildo as a weapon. yeah, I'm sure these people think saints row IV is game of the decade but that really doesn't mean anything. ''Literally the first criticism I posted of GTA 4 in this topic was the fact that the amount of dialogue kept me from actually getting to the gameplay'' the first criticism you made was that ''the soul'' of grand theft auto had been taken. your reasoning for this statement being that a game where you can't go 2 minutes without hearing a hispanic stereotype on the radio aggressively demanding the freedom to masturbate in public before exclaiming the phrase ''YOU WANNA SEE MY JUNK'', is, according to you, ''not goofy enough''.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42079377]no, the approach saints row 4 took is ''if we spam sex humor lots of 12 year olds will pay for our $60 DLC". there comes a point when the subjectivity of the topic fades, when you're complaining that grand theft auto 4 was ''too talky''. the point of a game isn't to make people laugh. if you think a game has funny dialogue then great, but other people don't want to deal with relentless, cringy as fuck jokes while they're trying to play a game for the purpose of playing it.[/QUOTE] The only point you made in this post is that you never actually played/know anything about SRIV.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42079879] people who willingly bought or pirated a game that is confirmed by the developers to be a DLC that turned into a full price standalone. said DLC being for a game that had an entire marketing campaign based around the concept of using a purple dildo as a weapon. yeah, I'm sure these people think saints row IV is game of the decade but that really doesn't mean anything. [/QUOTE] So not only have you not played the game, but you think actually playing it makes people less credible? Fucking hell.

People always say San Andreas was a wacky, funny game, then they point to the mission where you break into Area 51 and steal the jetpack. But San Andreas had a pretty serious story and the missiosn featuring The Truth and Toreno were considered very weird by even the game's standards. Sure you became good friends with a blind yakuza boss, helped a washed up rapper get his career back on track after accidentally ruining it, and had to follow the damn train. Is that so different to teaming up with a rastafarian drug dealer, getting involved in the bickering of a crazy Irish family and going bowling? Not really. Sure the tone was different but San Andreas was a parody of 90s West Coast culture and gangland and GTA4 was a satire of modern mafia thrillers and crime dramas. It would be weird if the tone [i]wasn't[/i] more serious.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42080095]The only point you made in this post is that you never actually played/know anything about SRIV.[/QUOTE] *the developers themselves have stated multiple times that saints row 4 is the planned saints row 3 DLC, ''Enter The Dominatrix", just released as a standalone product and titled saints row 4 instead. *the game uses the exact same assets, including the world, as saints row 3 with only thematic and aesthetic changes being made *the marketing of both games is exclusively focused on the crude humor of the game, it's a deliberate aspect and cited as the reason to play saints row by a vast majority of its fan base *this is a thread started by a guy who's mad that grand theft auto isn't as childish and dumb as saints row.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42080243]*the developers themselves have stated multiple times that saints row 4 is the planned saints row 3 DLC, ''Enter The Dominatrix", just released as a standalone product and titled saints row 4 instead.[/QUOTE] No it isn't, that's completely wrong and they have never said it.

[QUOTE=Drasnus;42080127]So not only have you not played the game, but you think actually playing it makes people less credible? Fucking hell.[/QUOTE] I have played the game, because ''the game'' is, once again, a DLC for saints row 3. a DLC that I've seen gameplay, trailers, promotional videos and 2 reviews of.

[QUOTE=simkas;42080250]No it isn't, that's completely wrong and they have never said it.[/QUOTE] No they really did say they were going to turn the last big DLC for SR3 into SR4 after it got "too big" to be in the game as just a dlc.

[QUOTE=simkas;42080250]No it isn't, that's completely wrong and they have never said it.[/QUOTE] ok so I'm now I'm realizing that you people seriously believe that saints row IV is new and aren't aware that the developers are *OPEN* about the fact that it's not. that is seriously pathetic. edit: ''On March 3, 2012, Volition announced a standalone expansion to Saints Row: The Third that would not require The Third to play, entitled Enter the Dominatrix. The game would take place one year after the events of Saints Row: The Third and was set for release for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The official description: "Enter the Dominatrix picks up immediately following the events of Saints Row: The Third. For centuries, alien warlord Zinyak has eyed Earth and its precious natural resources and females with a watchful eye. As he prepares an armada for invasion, he has only one worry: the Third Street Saints". On June 18, it was confirmed that the game had been redirected to be a full sequel and will be released in conjunction with Saints Row IV in 2013'' [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Row_IV[/url]

[QUOTE=simkas;42080250]No it isn't, that's completely wrong and they have never said it.[/QUOTE] He's half right. Enter The Dominatrix was initially going to be SR4. [I]Initially.[/I] It's obviously expanded far beyond DLC, that's plainly evident if you've ever played it. Its like how Halo 3: ODST was going to be an expansion, then became a standalone title with the arguably best campaign in the series and was a totally fresh take on the game's previous formula. Just because it started as a DLC doesn't mean it's still a DLC now. Saying SR4 is a sixty dollar DLC is frankly moronic. And saying it has the same sense of humor as SR:TT is just plain wrong.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42080283]ok so I'm now I'm realizing that you people seriously believe that saints row IV is new and aren't aware that the developers are *OPEN* about the fact that it's not. that is seriously pathetic. edit: ''On March 3, 2012, Volition announced a standalone expansion to Saints Row: The Third that would not require The Third to play, entitled Enter the Dominatrix. The game would take place one year after the events of Saints Row: The Third and was set for release for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The official description: "Enter the Dominatrix picks up immediately following the events of Saints Row: The Third. For centuries, alien warlord Zinyak has eyed Earth and its precious natural resources and females with a watchful eye. As he prepares an armada for invasion, he has only one worry: the Third Street Saints". On June 18, it was confirmed that the game had been redirected to be a full sequel and will be released in conjunction with Saints Row IV in 2013'' [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Row_IV[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah, that's part of it, they said that instead of having the dominatrix thing be just a DLC, they merged it into what was already SRIV, it wasn't just a DLC turning into a sequel. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] Also I have actually played SRIV, it's new enough.

[QUOTE=simkas;42080316]Yeah, that's part of it, they said that instead of having the dominatrix thing be just a DLC, they merged it into what was already SRIV, it wasn't just a DLC turning into a sequel. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] Also I have actually played SRIV, it's new enough.[/QUOTE] it's saints row 3 with superpowers and aliens. that is what it is, period. the development time between saints row 3's release and saint's row 4's release, taking into account the dissolution of the original publisher, the acquisition of volition and the many DLCs developed for saints row 3 speaks volumes about the amount of work put into the game. basically, almost none. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;42080376]you're a fucking dumbass[/QUOTE] ''you can't know a game is bad and poorly developed without playing it'' such solid logic. I haven't seen all the twilight films either so I guess I have no grounds to criticize them. you're extremely stupid.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42080398]it's saints row 3 with superpowers and aliens. that is what it is, period. the development time between saints row 3's release and saint's row 4's release, taking into account the dissolution of the original publisher, the acquisition of volition and the many DLCs developed for saints row 3 speaks volumes about the amount of work put into the game. basically, almost none. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] ''you can't know a game is bad and poorly developed without playing it'' such solid logic. I haven't seen all the twilight films either so I guess I have no grounds to criticize them. you're extremely stupid.[/QUOTE] You're a dumbass because you pretty much admitted you haven't played SR4 and have been making a shit ton of assumptions about it.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;42073474]SRIV is absolutely insane. SRV will be totally unpercievable by mortal beings, as its non-euclidian geometry will cause those of feeble mind to boggle and go insane with horror at the incrediblity of its wackiness. This is not a bug, but a feature.[/QUOTE] Watch as SRV is super serious, and that the older games were a dream.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42080398]it's saints row 3 with superpowers and aliens. that is what it is, period. the development time between saints row 3's release and saint's row 4's release, taking into account the dissolution of the original publisher, the acquisition of volition and the many DLCs developed for saints row 3 speaks volumes about the amount of work put into the game. basically, almost none. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] ''you can't know a game is bad and poorly developed without playing it'' such solid logic. I haven't seen all the twilight films either so I guess I have no grounds to criticize them. you're extremely stupid.[/QUOTE] I'm sort of glad this guy came in and made my OP look slightly less dumb by comparison

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42080831]I'm sort of glad this guy came in and made my OP look slightly less dumb by comparison[/QUOTE] no you're still enraged about a dumb thing and you still slagged two good games as being terrible games so

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42079377]no, the approach saints row 4 took is ''if we spam sex humor lots of 12 year olds will pay for our $60 DLC". [/QUOTE] Considering the fact most of the jokes i remember were either hat tips to old sci-fi films, parodies of other games, or playing on the history and personality of the characters themselves- im pretty sure its safe to say you don't know what you are talking about.

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;42080621]Watch as SRV is super serious, and that the older games were a dream.[/QUOTE] I'll only buy a new SR game if this happens.

This is extremely awesome. Only makes me want a better PC more :v: [QUOTE=Andokool12;42073437]What's even silly or un-serious about this? They wanted authentic voices for the gang characters so they got actual gang members. That's called great casting and really nothing else.[/QUOTE] if you want realistic gang members actually have gang members do the voices the problem literally fixes itself [QUOTE=Helix Snake;42073350][B]After GTA 4 and Max Payne 3 I'm starting to feel like R[B]ockstar's games are just excuses for their horrible writing[/B] team [B]to stroke their massive dick egos[/B]. They think they're great writers but writing dialog is all they know how to do. Since the reviewers gave them so much positivity for their "oscar quality writing" in GTA 4 I'm not totally confident that GTA 5 won't have the beginning of most of the missions be driving the car halfway across the city while listening to some peripheral character's verbal diarrhea.[/B][/QUOTE] I'd give GTA4 a 8 and Max Payne 3 a 9.5. This is an honest rating. Man, an 8, they should be ashamed of themselves. Also, I bolded the parts that were terrible about your post [sp]I hope you can see that that is your entire post that's bolded. You honestly aren't even bashing it in any intelligent way at all and completely are letting your own naivety and immaturity get in the way of actually rating the game. People like you who don't even know what the fuck they are saying and go "ZERO OUT OF TEN" when they rate a game really annoy the shit out of me because honestly, you are just being a dick about it for no good reason. [/sp] I'm going to cry now, Max Payne 3 was the love of my life, now my life is ruined because someone is super mean and a total dick. I hope your happy ;_; [sp]In the end Max Payne 3 had some of the most brilliant writing and gameplay I've seen in such a long time. The dialog and story was nothing short of extremely well made. GTA4 was very good, as well.[/sp] [QUOTE=Helix Snake;42079585]Have you ignored every single fucking point I made Literally the first criticism I posted of GTA 4 in this topic was the fact that the amount of dialogue kept me from actually getting to the gameplay. I'm starting to think you didn't play any Saints Row game OR GTA 4, but if that's the case I can't figure out why the hell you'd have such a strong opinion about it.[/QUOTE] Dialog has always been a huge part of GTA always. And it doesn't effect gameplay at all. Gameplay is gapped by secondary shit so that you can 'take a breath' from missions and actually enjoy the shit people are "Spewing out of their mouths" also, "you're sucking even more of the soul out of the GTA franchise." you literally have no idea what the point of the GTA series is, at all, do you? and [QUOTE=Helix Snake;42079585]I suppose playing the game doesn't give you any extra authority on judging it.[/QUOTE] Actually playing a game gives you WAY more authority because you actually know what you are god damn talking about [QUOTE]if you had even a second graders reading comprehension. It's probably not worth the effort picking apart this post but I'm going to do it anyways.[/QUOTE] whoa someone needs a nap why are you so pissed off about GTA? [sp]Show me where rockstar touched you on the doll[/sp] [QUOTE=Helix Snake;42080831]I'm sort of glad this guy came in and made my OP look slightly less dumb by comparison[/QUOTE] sure I guess you could say that but by saying that you just made yourself sound really arrogant.

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[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;42080621]Watch as SRV is super serious, and that the older games were a dream.[/QUOTE]Aren't they done with the series? Wasn't four the last one?