Grand Theft Auto V features voice-overs from real gang members.
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[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;42079308]Yeah, that's very well possible, but it could also easily go the other way.
That's not to say that since they're not trained actors, that they can't do a good job.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if the guys are delivering the lines, though. They could just be advising them, and the actors still act.
[QUOTE=Revan564;42080480]You're a dumbass because you pretty much admitted you haven't played SR4 and have been making a shit ton of assumptions about it.[/QUOTE]
I didn't ''pretty much admit'' it, I have said it multiple times. you don't need to play a bad game to know its bad. you probably haven't played the war z but it's pretty safe to assume if someone asked you if it was bad you would say yes. I've seen 2 reviews, each 5 minutes long, I've seen the first 30 minutes of the game, plus another 20-30 minutes of additional gameplay. its still extremely dumb, I assumed there would be as much sex humor as the third one but if there isn't that makes almost no difference in my opinion of the game.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42081253]I didn't ''pretty much admit'' it, I have said it multiple times. [B]you don't need to play a bad game to know its bad. [/B]you probably haven't played the war z but it's pretty safe to assume if someone asked you if it was bad you would say yes. I've seen 2 reviews, each 5 minutes long, I've seen the first 30 minutes of the game, plus another 20-30 minutes of additional gameplay. its still extremely dumb, I assumed there would be as much sex humor as the third one but if there isn't that makes almost no difference in my opinion of the game.[/QUOTE]
your right
but playing it to see if its bad kind of makes a huge difference in how serious people actually take you
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, or belittling you. I have no opinion of the game as I've not played it or seen enough. But most people hear "I haven't played it" and will immediately say a lot. It's very unsafe waters to go ahead and say that, but it's perfectly fine.
that being said watching and actually playing are two different things. But it seems to simply be "Out of taste" for you.
But please at least know that the only way anyone should be able to write a review on a game is if they sit down and give it a good, honest play-through themselves and play at least MOST of the game. Then they sit down, relax and take the info in afterwards, and compare to other games, etc. You don't have to be all 'super serious', you just have to be honest and open minded.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42081281]your right
but playing it to see if its bad kind of makes a huge difference in how serious people actually take you
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, or belittling you. But most people hear "I haven't played it" and will immediately say a lot.
that being said watching and actually playing are two different things.[/QUOTE]
if it wasn't more or less acknowledged by the developers to be a slight iteration on saints row 3, and considered by almost all of the community including its fans to be, again, a slight iteration on saints row 3, then this logic might have ground to stand on. I've played saints row 3, I completed the game, I've seen about an hour of gameplay footage of saints row IV, and I know enough about it to have an informed opinion on it.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42081318]if it wasn't more or less acknowledged by the developers to be a slight iteration on saints row 3, and considered by almost all of the community including its fans to be, again, a slight iteration on saints row 3, then this logic might have ground to stand on. I've played saints row 3, I completed the game, I've seen about an hour of gameplay footage of saints row IV, and I know enough about it to have an informed opinion on it.[/QUOTE]
Saints Row 4 is such a massively different game from the little gameplay I've seen, but I can't get a total opinion on it
to me its "Saints row 3 meets prototype". So pissed off fans is literally the easiest thing to see ever.
When it comes to GTA, they only took what they had already and reinforced it. they didn't change it to a huge degree. There's no real artstyle or gameplay mechanic that has been really altered to a huge amount. It's still got the heart of what makes a GTA game a GTA game. [sp]You run around and kill hookers and do missions, and steal cars, and kill hookers[/sp]
[QUOTE=J!NX;42081330]Saints Row 4 is such a massively different game from the little gameplay I've seen, but I can't get a total opinion on it
to me its "Saints row 3 meets prototype"[/QUOTE]
I said this the first time I saw it
then the second time i thought
"Saints Row: Crackdown on the Infamous Prototype"
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42081150]Aren't they done with the series? Wasn't four the last one?[/QUOTE]
if i remember correctly they aren't getting more wacky than this, and probably are going slightly more serious and with a new character
[QUOTE=J!NX;42081330]Saints Row 4 is such a massively different game from the little gameplay I've seen, but I can't get a total opinion on it
to me its "Saints row 3 meets prototype". So pissed off fans is literally the easiest thing to see ever.
When it comes to GTA, they only took what they had already and reinforced it. they didn't change it to a huge degree. There's no real artstyle or gameplay mechanic that has been really altered to a huge amount. It's still got the heart of what makes a GTA game a GTA game. [sp]You run around and kill hookers and do missions, and steal cars, and kill hookers[/sp][/QUOTE]
saints row meets prototype is exactly how I would describe it, but from what I can see that formula is pretty broken.
I wish I could go back in time and not make this topic
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081552]I wish I could go back in time and not make this topic[/QUOTE]
or just not make condescending comments you had no reason to make besides your own opinion being "superior" to others
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42081569]or just not make condescending comments you had no reason to make besides your own opinion being "superior" to others[/QUOTE]
OK, this is unwarranted. I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me. I am not an arrogant or condescending person and besides stating things in a very opinionated way I in no way implied that my opinion is superior to everyone else's. Back off.
The only reason I haven't changed the OP completely is I don't want people to be confused about where all of the dumb ratings came from
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081595]OK, this is unwarranted. I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me. I am not an arrogant or condescending person and besides stating things in a very opinionated way I in no way implied that my opinion is superior to everyone else's. Back off.
The only reason I haven't changed the OP completely is I don't want people to be confused about where all of the dumb ratings came from[/QUOTE]
I think most of the perceived arrogance comes from how you proclaimed that the soul of GTA had been taken because it was less crude and tongue-in-cheek (this is also just an assumption you made based on almost nothing), and the fact that you seemed to feel that the majority would benefit from less dialogue and more ''action'' as opposed to just yourself.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081595]OK, this is unwarranted. I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me. I am not an arrogant or condescending person and besides stating things in a very opinionated way I in no way implied that my opinion is superior to everyone else's. Back off.
The only reason I haven't changed the OP completely is I don't want people to be confused about where all of the dumb ratings came from[/QUOTE]
well you kind of called out writers as being terrible for no reason other than you think it was shit and too much writing and you haven't done anything but defend that point?
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081595]OK, this is unwarranted. I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me. I am not an arrogant or condescending person and besides stating things in a very opinionated way I in no way implied that my opinion is superior to everyone else's. Back off.
The only reason I haven't changed the OP completely is I don't want people to be confused about where all of the dumb ratings came from[/QUOTE]
'haha my opinion is all good but i don't want to be known as that idiot that bashed the rockstar writers for doing something properly!'
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081595]OK, this is unwarranted. I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me. [B]I am not an arrogant or condescending person[/B] and besides stating things in a very opinionated way I in no way implied that my opinion is superior to everyone else's. Back off.
The only reason I haven't changed the OP completely is I don't want people to be confused about where all of the dumb ratings came from[/QUOTE]
sounded like you were being arrogant and condescending to me... over something you can't actually get mad over... you made it sound like you were pissed at them trying to actually be realistic with their game but it's a matter of the humor simply staying there while not messing up the actual storyline.
"What the fuck are you doing R*? " "you're sucking even more of the soul out of the GTA franchise."
like seriously how the fuck does this "Suck even more of the soul out of GTA". You're getting super offended and super serious about something that's extremely minor. [B]You haven't even seen nearly enough of the game to see what they are doing either, for all you could know they could be doing nothing, you're just making an assumption immediately "Because of gang members". [/B]
"After GTA 4 and Max Payne 3 I'm starting to feel like Rockstar's games are just excuses for their horrible writing team to stroke their [B]massive dick egos.[/B] "
"I want my homeless people ranting about spies in the toilets and bystanders saying things like "CHEESY VAGINAS!"" (if that's actually part of the experiance that's kind of bad, this is coming from a guy who finds more aspects of a game very vital to success than most)
"Grand Theft Auto 4 was just so serious that the story became boring. " (No it wasn't, seriously why the hell does a serious story = shitty, I'm a HUGE fan of Serious Sam and movies with really horribly unserious stories)
"I thought Saints Row 2 had the best writing for this type of game" (why the hell does a serious story = shitty)
GTA is an intelligent parody of the american way. It's serious, but its humor is far better than Saints row because it isn't IN YOUR FACE with it constantly. I loved SR3, it was refreshing, but if you can't seethat GTA is and always will be a parody, theres something wrong. There's tons of unserious shit in it.
"See how much better written that is?"
Not really. It seems as well written, just don't in a non cutscene way for GTA. That also isn't the "Defining scene of the entire game. Taking just 1 scene from each game, come on. The games both have very different tones on things and can be serious and funny at the same time.
now at this point you have been pretty bad but then toned it down
then you did this
"Have you ignored every single fucking point I made" "bunch of retarded assumptions that you'd know aren't true if you had even a second graders reading comprehension. It's probably not worth the effort picking apart this post but I'm going to do it anyways."
"was the fact that the amount of dialogue kept me from actually getting to the gameplay"
You don't have to listen to vlad, you can just shoot him in the face as well as skip unwanted cutscenes.
"I'm sort of glad this guy came in and made my OP look slightly less dumb by comparison"
That is a very arrogant post.
And this is why I made fun of you previously. You're exaggerating your words and most of the 'issues' aren't' [I]really [/I] huge issues. It's all a matter of taste, not how the story and everything else functions. Getting really riled up over personal preference isn't a good thing.
IMHO with Saints Row 3/4 and GTA, there's really no point in staying as unserious as, lets say, GTASA, mostly because of the increasing power of graphics cards and how far realism is able to go. A more serious tone is better, if you want unserious, go play saints row.
-eh, nevermind-
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42081595]I backed down immediately when I realized the majority disagreed with me.[/QUOTE]
why? you should stand behind your beliefs, even if others think they're dumb.
[QUOTE=Stroma;42083009]why? you should stand behind your beliefs, even if others think they're dumb.[/QUOTE]
"You should close yourself to criticism completely and just believe what you think is right"
oh, that philosophy has created so many despicable people
[QUOTE=Stroma;42083009]why? you should stand behind your beliefs, even if others think they're dumb.[/QUOTE]
you should defend yourself yes
you shouldn't say "no you can't be right i'm right" cause that's usually retarded.
[QUOTE=Stroma;42083009]why? you should stand behind your beliefs, even if others think they're dumb.[/QUOTE]
unless your beliefs are just really, really fucking dumb.
[QUOTE=Stroma;42083009]why? you should stand behind your beliefs, even if others think they're dumb.[/QUOTE]
yes you should
but there's a certain point where you really need to seriously think carefully about the wording and the nature of how you say it.
Some things like "If you smoke paint at a young age, there's really not an excuse in this era, you're a dumba ss" is harsh but it's true. But acting like this is a super serious issue about a video game being turned horrible and getting all on the defense is just... what? :v:
I mean there isn't liking GTA because you are a different kind of gamer, but, a tone change for a game like GTA simply is inevidable.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;42073479]not really it'll just be more childish, over the top humor[/QUOTE]
"Jokes not allowed" - A LOCAL Facepunch member swears off humor for good. "It's just not cricket" claims local man, who goes by the handle of "Kopimi". Lorem ipsum blahdy blooh fake news article stuff.
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