Explosion at French nuclear plant leaves 1 killed - NO Leak - Polidicks

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[QUOTE=Novistador;32250662]If your against petroleum, nuclear, and presumeabley hydroelectic, Your pretty much advocating for a massive drop in human standard of living, especially for those pesky poor people you seem so concerned about all the time. But no, your right, lets "become one with nature" ie; the dirt, lets die and bury ourselves in dirt, for the earths sake, it's better off without us.[/QUOTE] Wow you sure did put a lot of words into his mouth. Good job.

France was just trying to fire ze missiles, But the doors were le tired. :v: Edit: Missiles out of the Nuclear cooling towers of course, They're creative like that.

[QUOTE=Crimor;32251175]You have no idea how retarded that is, let's see, the saharan desert plant, powers all of fucking europe and north africa, yeah what would happen if there was an failure, or it got attacked, and you're forgetting the frequent sand storms there too.[/QUOTE] What kind of fucking idiot would destroy their own power source? This grid powers the WORLD. That means everyone. Do you seriously think the people who made that chart didn't take weather into account?

[QUOTE=BigOwl;32251255]What kind of fucking idiot would destroy their own power source? This grid powers the WORLD. That means everyone. Do you seriously think the people who made that chart didn't take weather into account?[/QUOTE] This is Humanity we are talking about.

[QUOTE=Orkel;32250190]Massive anti-nuclear shitstorm incoming[/QUOTE] Considering how Facepunch is always saying "well here comes all hatred from [I]x[/I] group towards [I]y[/I] industry and/or political view" and "[I]x[/I] is really going to make something from this story", this is quite the opposite of what's going to happen. Half the posts in any thread about something going wrong about anything to do with a technology that has people against it are going to be about how those people are going to make a meal of the story, which funnily enough happens fewer than the posts that say they do. Hey ho, Facepunch logic. [editline]13th September 2011[/editline] I've just realised that half of that makes no sense whatsoever, but that's what I get for typing while I'm practically asleep. Bleh. You know what I meant.

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;32251272]This is Humanity we are talking about.[/QUOTE] Well once the UN gets Zombie Napoleon up and running, no army in the world will be able to successfully attack it.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;32250760][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/explosion-french-nuclear-injures-four-120118026.html"]No leak[/URL][/QUOTE] Hope that stops the ban nuclear power outcry

[QUOTE=Crimor;32251175]You have no idea how retarded that is, let's see, the saharan desert plant, powers all of fucking europe and north africa, yeah what would happen if there was an failure, or it got attacked, and you're forgetting the frequent sand storms there too.[/QUOTE] You also have no idea how retarded not reading the text on the image is, especially the part about spreading out the solar panels much more than that to localize the power sources as much as possible. Man that sounds pretty retarded doesn't it!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32251005]But it's a hell of a lot better than running on decades old nuclear reactors that blow up[/QUOTE] Actually no, nuclear power plants are the most "stable" (Even the decades old plants) and cheap way to make enough energy without fucking too much. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents[/URL] considering the amount of energy nuclear plants provide, the rate for deaths and accidents is astonishingly low. By developing nuclear power plants and nuclear technology we can advance to much better forms for creating energy for our needs, like fusion power. The biggest nuclear accidents are: Fucked up reactor used way over the capacity and natural disaster that was more than the plant was designed to withstand, other one can be avoided with new generation of reactors. The other one was simple misuse of the reactor.

[QUOTE=BigOwl;32251255] Do you seriously think the people who made that chart didn't take weather into account?[/QUOTE] It took an average amount of solar exposure into account, yeah. [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=nask;32251363]Actually no, nuclear power plants are the most "stable" (Even the decades old plants) and cheap way to make enough energy without fucking too much. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents[/URL] considering the amount of energy nuclear plants provide energy, the rate for deaths and accidents is astonishingly low. By developing nuclear power plants and nuclear technology we can advance to much better forms for creating energy for our needs, like fusion power.[/QUOTE] "In terms of energy accidents, hydroelectric plants were responsible for the most fatalities, but nuclear power plant accidents rank first in terms of their economic cost, accounting for 41 percent of all property damage." Basically nuclear kills less because generally there is time to evacuate, but it fucks up the surrounding area for a long time.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32251379]"In terms of energy accidents, hydroelectric plants were responsible for the most fatalities, but nuclear power plant accidents rank first in terms of their economic cost, accounting for 41 percent of all property damage." Basically nuclear kills less because generally there is time to evacuate, but it fucks up the surrounding area for a long time.[/QUOTE] Sure, some damage is done to surroundings. But nuclear energy is the best solution before fusion.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32251133][img]http://i.imgur.com/62bDV.png[/img][/QUOTE] What about power transmission and power loss through transmission? I think solar all over would be possible, but we need a more systematic grid to spread out the failure.

I live in a no nuke zone seriously check it out: [img]http://www.scruzwiki.org/Nuclear_Free_Zone?sendfile=true&file=nuclear_fre.jpg&thumb=yes&size=400[/img] my town is so liberal, they will probably start using wave power soon.

Now France will surrender to that nuclear plant and it will rule the country.

There was a very interesting TED debate on this. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK8ccWSZkic[/media] I came out in favour of the Pro Nuclear Power person, despite being a horrifying lefty.

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;32250770]Still, coal plants and oil accidents kill more people yearly than nuclear distasters have ever killed, Tshernobyl counted. However, because this form of energy contains radiation, it's suddenly "dangerous and evil".[/QUOTE] Coal plants give off more radiation than nuclear plants.

[QUOTE=labbet;32251466]I live in a no nuke zone seriously check it out: [img]http://www.scruzwiki.org/Nuclear_Free_Zone?sendfile=true&file=nuclear_fre.jpg&thumb=yes&size=400[/img] my town is so liberal, they will probably start using wave power soon.[/QUOTE] Wave power is horseshit

Have they issued a formal surrender yet?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32251005]Of course not, the space requirements would be astronomical. But it's a hell of a lot better than running on decades old nuclear reactors that blow up and coal that kills miners and destroys the environment[/QUOTE] Creating the >99.9% clean silicium is one of the most toxic processes ever invented. That's the con.

[QUOTE=Killuah;32250615]I don't get why people think thorium reactors are better. The Thorium chain produces the same toxic stuff as the other reactors. [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] What I REALLY hope is that this is used to propagate the French Fusion reactor they just cut the spending for.[/QUOTE] Only Thorium waste lasts 10-10,000 times shorter than other nuclear wastes. It's also more effective with 1 tons = 200 tons of Uranium in terms of a fuel source.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;32251517]I came out in favour of the Pro Nuclear Power person, despite being a horrifying lefty.[/QUOTE] There is absolutely no conflict between nuclear power and liberal/left views [editline]12th September 2011[/editline] also, just watch this turn into the next Fukushima!! omg (actually it's a waste processing plant so it can't happen) [quote=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14883521]There are no nuclear reactors at the southern French site.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Killuah;32251669]Creating the >99.9% clean silicium is one of the most toxic processes ever invented. That's the con.[/QUOTE] let's do it on MARS

[QUOTE=Sumap;32251715]Only Thorium waste lasts 10-10,000 times shorter than other nuclear wastes. It's also more effective with 1 pound = 1,000 pounds of Uranium in terms of a fuel source.[/QUOTE] We are using the thorium to create Uranium. Also you might check your equation. It kind of explains nothing. Really, the primary point for Thorium is that there is just much more of it on Earth than Uranium.

we really need a huge mix of solar power, nuclear (uranium/thorium) power, and microwave power if it's available, and then we can get onto fusion and have free unlimited energy for longer than the sun will actually burn as a main sequence star

[QUOTE=labbet;32251466]I live in a no nuke zone seriously check it out: [img]http://www.scruzwiki.org/Nuclear_Free_Zone?sendfile=true&file=nuclear_fre.jpg&thumb=yes&size=400[/img] my town is so liberal, they will probably start using wave power soon.[/QUOTE] Wave power seems like it has quite a lot of potential actually. I'm not sure of the potential damage to the ecosystem but it seems a lot friendlier than hydroelectric for sure

So basically just a furnance at a nuclear waste processing plant exploded. Those are used only for burning low-radioactive contaminated material AFAIK. It'll be a bitch for them to clean up, but I don't think any more lives are going to be endangered because of this incident.

Duh, finnish media made huge hysteria news again "NUCLEAR POWER PLANT EXPLOSION IN FRANCE - ALREADY CASUALTIES" And tomorrow all pharmacies have sold out their iodine tablets... [img]http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/4x/gg/w9bm/253758/794591823.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Maucer;32251941]Duh, finnish media made huge hysteria news again "NUCLEAR POWER PLANT EXPLOSION IN FRANCE - ALREADY CASUALTIES" And tomorrow all pharmacies have sold out their iodine tablets...[/QUOTE] Yeah, every single time it is overhyped to the point it being sad.

A mix of nuclear, hydroelectric, solar and geothermal. All can provide energy, and hydroelectric can store both water for drinking use and energy for quick use. (You just open the dam and then it starts) everything else needs a while to start up or to shut down or are unreliable depending on the weather.