Explosion at French nuclear plant leaves 1 killed - NO Leak - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32250288]At least France has large numbers of nuclear reactors. I like it when the French don't give a shit what other people think and do it anyways.[/QUOTE] They put them all on the borders, at least all of the ones I have seen have been near the borders. Good to see this is an "industrial accident" and not a "nuclear accident".

More racism please. Also 79% of the electricity produced in my country comes from nuclear power. We aren't going to be getting rid of it anytime soon, unlike our sausage munching surrender monkey neighbours. Ahem.

[QUOTE=CSOD;32250745]:pwn: Haha oh Huffingtonpost, you're so awful.[/QUOTE] I can't read the Huff Post because of how bad it is what was AOL thinking.

Where's tony stark and his ark reactor when you fucking need it

All 40 year old+ reactors should gradually be replaced by new generation ones that are much safer and have better safety procedures and have computerized lockdown systems.

[QUOTE=BigOwl;32251255]What kind of fucking idiot would destroy their own power source? This grid powers the WORLD. That means everyone. Do you seriously think the people who made that chart didn't take weather into account?[/QUOTE] What kind of fucking idiot can't read? It's still set up in sectors, like the sahara one powering africa and europe.

This proves that nuclear power is far safer than the others. If it can withstand an explosion and not leak then it sounds pretty damn safe.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32252827]This proves that nuclear power is far safer than the others. If it can withstand an explosion and not leak then it sounds pretty damn safe.[/QUOTE] Tell that to the Germans

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;32252908]Tell that to the Germans[/QUOTE] The same country that has only just legalised doom.

[QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32252357]More racism please. [/QUOTE] the french are a race? Learn something new every day!

[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32250382]I fucking hope France got balls of steels for once! And don't pussy out like Germany.[/QUOTE] Germany was already downsizing their nuclear reactor count previously and have been building a fairly massive net of coal and oil powerplants. Which is kinda why it was a lot easier for them to move away from nuclear. Basically germany's stance to nuclear has been more or less this. Yes no yes no NEVER They still plan to buy a lot of nuclear power from us and the polish though as far as I know. [quote] This proves that nuclear power is far safer than the others. If it can withstand an explosion and not leak then it sounds pretty damn safe. [/quote] Well the explosion apparently happened in waste processing as opposed to the reactor itself.

^*What? I assume you're referring to the germans buying power?*Yeah that will be interesting come 10 years or so.

Why can't we all build nuclear power plant deep underground. That way if the nuclear powerplant have a meltdown, the radiation leaks is limited to underground. Good thing today was September 12

[QUOTE=Killuah;32251669]Creating the >99.9% clean silicium is one of the most toxic processes ever invented. That's the con.[/QUOTE] You can also harnass solar power by using reflectors that heat oil rather than solar panels.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;32252949]the french are a race? Learn something new every day![/QUOTE] I am afraid you do not know what racism means. In British law the term racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or [b]national origin[/b]". While the UN defines "racial discrimination" as any prejudice made against or for a group based on "race, colour, descent, or [b]national[/b] or ethnic origin". Now you have learnt a new thing today. Well done you.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32250867]As a British resident I can attest to this. The Scots got given special new pikes by the French during the wars with England. Turns out the flimsy weapons snapped in combat and they got raped by the English.[/QUOTE] Are you talking about Flodden? Anyway, I doubt this incident will dramatically affect the French reliance on nuclear.

Sucks to be the the one person that got killed.

For fucks sake, this better not make even more people think sticking with fossil fuels is a good idea. Sad thing is, it probably will, and even more countries will abandon nuclear power if this goes tits up.

[QUOTE=a dumb bear;32253750]For fucks sake, this better not make even more people think sticking with fossil fuels is a good idea. Sad thing is, it probably will, and even more countries will abandon nuclear power if this goes tits up.[/QUOTE] there's no fucking reactor even in the place dammit tbqh I'm more worried about people's reading comprehension than a nuclear meltdown

Its funny how in any thread related to nuclear power plants, tons of facepunchers go on about people who are against nuclear energy not knowing anything about nuclear energy. In reality, that isn't true. If anything I've found that the people who defend nuclear energy on facepunch are actually less knowledgeable. When people argue against nuclear energy, they generally just believe that other forms of renewable energy are better, which can be a valid argument. Nuclear power plants cost a lot to make (up to 30 times other energy plants), they cost a lot to maintain, their fuel doesn't magically appear (prospecting, mining, milling), and they AREN'T emission free (even when you discount the long-term fuel waste). Either way nuclear is a great improvement over coal/gas, but that isn't what they are arguing. If you find someone who tries to say that coal or gas is better than nuclear energy, chances are they don't know what they're talking about. Personally I support nuclear energy, but I definitely don't believe its the end-all to energy development. Nuclear alone isn't the best solution. As for Thorium fuel. One of Thorium's main argument IS that it is roughly three times more abundant. This means that the prospecting and mining based part of nuclear fuel can be up to three times more efficient (less emissions, less cost). Everything after that is pretty complex and there are advantages and disadvantages for it, so its not just government or corporations being stupid as most of you like to say. For example, Thorium does produce less long-lived transuranic compounds compared to Uranium, but it also produces longer lived actinide compounds. I'd recommend looking it up yourself and actually studying it for any further information. I know the basics, but not the mathematics and science behind it all. [QUOTE=BCell;32253199]Why can't we all build nuclear power plant deep underground. That way if the nuclear powerplant have a meltdown, the radiation leaks is limited to underground. Good thing today was September 12[/QUOTE] Generally that would be worse as it would be near the water table. In addition to that, nuclear reactors generally need constant maintenance. There are some places where that is possible though, and they build temporary reactors.

That's the thing with nuclear energy. It's all good on paper, but human flaws lead to critical errors. You could write a book thicker than the bible about all the security fuck ups here in Germany alone, partly because the company doesn't spend the money for what they're supposed to fix, sometimes because governments don't update old reactors. At one point you just have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to rid of something that may sound fantastic but simply doesn't work out. Even if it just fucks up sometimes, a few nuclear leaks can cause a lot of damage over a lot of time. And atomic waste is also a rather permanent problem. Note: I'm not saying we should shut down everything, leave alone shut down everything everything until tomorrow and replace it with a couple of solar panels, I am very much aware of how efficient nuclear power plants are and how crucial they are to our global power networks. But something really ought to change. All the continuous fuck-ups in Germany, especially the ongoing habit of treating nuclear waste like waste paper around groundwater, is naturally creeping me out and I'm reminded of this every time the media blindly demonizes the entire industry. Not fearmongering because of a couple of incidents, but we really gotta be more careful with this shit or get rid of it. I'm just afraid the budget cut in favor of regenerating energy will cut into upgrading obsolete power plants, which would be the worst possible outcome of all of this.

Once we have fusion we can really start going.

Having fusion as a power source would be incredibly unstable due to centralisation. Downtimes would immediately affect the energy price thus driving up costs of production which ultimately leads to less consumption.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;32257453]Having fusion as a power source would be incredibly unstable due to centralisation. Downtimes would immediately affect the energy price thus driving up costs of production which ultimately leads to less consumption.[/QUOTE] Then have hydroelectric dams to store large amounts of water as stored energy for such times.

Good lucking getting fusion that produces more energy than it takes up. pro-tip: won't happen soon

[QUOTE=Collin665;32261367]Good lucking getting fusion that produces more energy than it takes up. pro-tip: won't happen soon[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER[/url] 15 billion euros worth of research funding strongly disagree

It's not even a nuclear accident, it's just the result of some idiots.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32257526]Then have hydroelectric dams to store large amounts of water as stored energy for such times.[/QUOTE]You'd need hundreds of hydroelectric dams to account for a single fusion power plant.