Roger Ebert Dies at Age 70 after a long battle with Cancer
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[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163981]
Uh yes he did, he called it the worst film to ever be shown at Cannes and when it was re-reviewed, it was given a 3.5 out of 5 stars
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he said that about the brown bunny and he only re-reviewed it because it was re-cut. also, it was 3 stars not 3.5
sorry about your crippling inability to know anything about what you're discussing
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163981]
I'm done arguing with you. Facepunch has shown itself to be pretty fucking retarded when it comes to arguments and debates in the past so I'm not going to further waste my time.[/QUOTE]
Has it? Or have you just been extremely childish about arguments in the past?
He reviewed movies and we disagreed alot. You will be missed by those critic wannabee's Mr. Ebert.
[QUOTE=Lazor;40164000]he said that about cop out and he only re-reviewed it because it was re-cut. also, it was 3 stars not 3.5
sorry about your crippling inability to know anything about what you're discussing[/QUOTE]
Learn to read the goddamn article yourself before you criticize my ability to comprehend basic sentence structure.
Even though we disagreed on my favorite film I'd always check out what he had to say, because more often than not he was right on the money. He will be missed.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163981]
I'm done arguing with you. Facepunch has shown itself to be pretty fucking retarded when it comes to arguments and debates in the past so I'm not going to further waste my time.[/QUOTE]
what a loss to facepunch i dont think well ever recover
[QUOTE=thisispain;40164045]what a loss to facepunch i dont think well ever recover[/QUOTE]
Coming from the biggest know it all cunt on Facepunch, don't think I care about your opinion.
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[QUOTE=Daniel M;40164066]Coming from the biggest know it all cunt on Facepunch, don't think I care about your opinion.[/QUOTE]
grow up?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40164014]Learn to read the goddamn article yourself before you criticize my ability to comprehend basic sentence structure.[/QUOTE]
you're right, it was The Brown Bunny not Cop Out. the rest of the details were correct though and you're still wrong
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40164066]Coming from the biggest know it all cunt on Facepunch, don't think I care about your opinion.[/QUOTE]
dont make me laugh haha
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163153]Yeah I'm an asshole for speaking out against the king of assholes in the film industry.
Look at how many careers he's destroyed. Look at how many movies he's torn apart. Yet, ironically, he had to resort to criticizing other people's works of art because he couldn't do it himself.
Actually he could
[sp]he was just terrible at it[/sp][/QUOTE]
Say you cant cook.
And a 5 star chef gives you his best.
And then, while you're eating it, you notice-
It tastes like fucking shit.
Do you need to be a 5 star chef to tell that the food is fucking atrocious? No.
Do you need to be a triple-A hollywood filmmaker to tell that a movie is fucking atrocious? No.
That type of thinking makes you look like a douche.
[b]VENERABLE FILM CRITIC ROGER EBERT, DEAD AT 70. . .SOURCES CLOSE TO EBERT SAY LAST WORDS WERE "ABUBBAH BLOO BURBLE THHHHBT BOOBLE."[/b]
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163153]Yeah I'm an asshole for speaking out against the king of assholes in the film industry.
Look at how many careers he's destroyed. Look at how many movies he's torn apart. Yet, ironically, he had to resort to criticizing other people's works of art because he couldn't do it himself.
Actually he could
[sp]he was just terrible at it[/sp][/QUOTE]
Look out, someone's trying to be edgy.
[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;40164537]Look out, someone's trying to be edgy.[/QUOTE]
Oh man he's so edgy, i pricked by finger.
Ouch!
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163654]Okay well when you actually spend 3-4 years working on something and some asshole targets your project and shits all over it, you can call people "babies".
Until then, shut the fuck up.
I know how exhausting and discouraging and demeaning it is to read through comments saying that you're doing your job wrong. That your vision is flawed. That you're a worthless piece of shit and that you've just wasted 4 years of your life creating something.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. Completely wrong.
Ebert called The Brown Bunny the "worst movie in the history of cannes", not Red State (don't tell me you weren't referring to Red State, you absolutely were). The Brown Bunny was recut and Ebert liked the new version enough to give it 3 1/2 stars.
Kevin Smith released Cop Out, which was awful. None of the critics especially liked it and Smith wasn't so keen on the criticism (I won't personally call Smith a baby; I like Smith). Smith responded to this by lashing out at critics and threatening to make them pay to see his movies at the same time as the average movie goer. This is an incredibly stupid thing to do and you would be hard pressed to find many film makers who take this stance also. Smith was happy to allow press screenings for all of his movies until they truly hated Cop Out. "Because you didn't like my last movie you will pay for the next!" is the stance he took.
You're last little piece about "creation" and "visions" is all fine and well, except that's not how it works. You imply that you have been criticized before and seem filled with contempt for those that did this, thankfully, many other people have been criticized too. Time doesn't have a true tie to quality in the way many of us want to think. You can spend a long time on something and it can suck, and people can tell you it sucks. There are only a couple places to go from there, you can use those criticisms to improve or you can accept that whatever you made is how you wanted it and be happy with that. If you're looking for acceptance through art, you have to do the first. But if you're doing it for yourself, the second will always be the best option for you.
Ebert didn't destroy peoples careers. Ebert was an articulate and intelligent film reviewer who has had a massive influence in the world of film critique and will always be remembered this way. I often disagreed with him and on numerous occasions, have found his criticisms to be useless and pointlessly aggressive. But those occasions are rare and are the result of being the prolific and flawed human being he happened to be.
Ebert was a great film critic and I hope we can let his legacy live on. I will miss his dry-wit and admirable writing skills. I'm not at all religious, but if I were and there is a heaven, I hope to see him there someday.
R.I.P Roger Ebert
I needed that. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163654]Okay well when you actually spend 3-4 years working on something and some asshole targets your project and shits all over it, you can call people "babies".
Until then, shut the fuck up.
I know how exhausting and discouraging and demeaning it is to read through comments saying that you're doing your job wrong. That your vision is flawed. That you're a worthless piece of shit and that you've just wasted 4 years of your life creating something.[/QUOTE]
I assumed that he bases his ratings on the longevity/innovation of the film. I remember that he gave Kick-Ass two stars out of five. It wasn't a "five year old using an antiquated camera" bad, but it's only fun to watch once.
It's probably the reason why he finds animation favorable.
He was a great film critic of his time. He is truly a great man to have been able to watch so many movies and films in his lifetime
I liked how tried to review from the viewpoint of the target audience. Heaps of respect for that. Many reviewers just like to bash stuff because they personally don't like it.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40163275]Kevin Smith after Red State.[/QUOTE]
kevin smith hasn't been good for nearly 2 decades
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[QUOTE=SourBree;40164870]
Ebert called The Brown Bunny the "worst movie in the history of cannes"[/QUOTE]
even then, after Gallo did a recut of it he liked the film.
Lots of people talking about this lately. Obama joined in as well:
[quote]For a generation of Americans – and especially Chicagoans – Roger was the movies. When he didn't like a film, he was honest; when he did, he was effusive – capturing the unique power of the movie to take us somewhere magical. Even amidst his own battles with cancer, Roger was as productive as he was resilient – continuing to share his passion and perspective with the world. The movies won't be the same without Roger.[/quote]
[url]http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20688568,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontent[/url]
plus Scorsese
[quote] The death of Roger Ebert is an incalculable loss for movie culture and for film criticism. And it’s a loss for me personally. Roger was always supportive, he was always right there for me when I needed it most, when it really counted – at the very beginning, when every word of encouragement was precious; and then again, when I was at the lowest ebb of my career, there he was, just as encouraging, just as warmly supportive. There was a professional distance between us, but then I could talk to him much more freely than I could to other critics. Really, Roger was my friend. It’s that simple.
Few people I’ve known in my life loved or cared as much about movies. I know that’s what kept him going in those last years – his life-or-death passion for movies, and his wonderful wife, Chaz.
We all knew that this moment was coming, but that doesn’t make the loss any less wrenching. I’ll miss him — my dear friend, Roger Ebert.[/quote]
and Spielberg
[quote]Roger loved movies. They were his life. His reviews went far deeper than simply thumbs up or thumbs down. He wrote with passion through a real knowledge of film and film history, and in doing so, helped many movies find their audiences. Along with Gene Shalit, Joel Siegel, and of course Gene Siskel, Roger put television criticism on the map. Roger’s passing is virtually the end of an era and now the balcony is closed forever.[/quote]
[QUOTE=postal;40160143]His last review was "The Host"
I blame Stephenie Meyer.[/QUOTE]
actually according to his site's editor:
[quote]Roger Ebert's last review is on the screen in front of me and I can't quite bring myself to deal with it. I'd like to get it posted right away because I know that's what Roger would want under the circumstances. ("We'll be getting a lot of traffic!") Actually, he filed two or three other reviews before his condition took a sudden turn for the worse. But this final one -- sent March 16 and labeled "FOR USE as needed," is of Terence Malick's "To the Wonder," which (spoiler warning) he liked quite a lot. Publicists might object that it hasn't opened in Chicago yet, but Roger wasn't just a Chicago movie critic (though he certainly was that). I can imagine his email now: "Who's going to complain? It's three and a half stars!"[/quote]
Well, at least he died after seeing a good movie.
it would be good to have his last review be a Terence Malick film instead of the Stephanie Mayer thing.
[quote]In one of Roger's last emails, responding to my concerns that he was firing off messages that were garbled or didn't make sense, he said he sometimes felt that way himself, but wanted to assure me that he was still in possesion of all his marbles.
"JIm, old friend, I'm in bad shape. I type on my lap in a hospital bed. I'm on pain meds. Did the review of 'To the Wonder" make sense e to you? Such a strange movie.
"I need your help."
You've got it, R.[/quote]
Roger Ebert was one of the few people that helped me mature when I was a teen. He wrote well, he loved movies with a great passion and time to time, I disagreed with him. Sometimes, a little and at other times, a lot. I couldn't really hate him though since people have a right to their opinion. In the end though it isn't about who's 'right' or 'wrong', just more about how you move past that and stay good people. Opinions change but changing something as trivial as movie opinions shouldn't really be some sort of quest. His blog was also interesting though again, I disagree with him time to time.
For example, Siskel and Ebert disagreed A LOT on their show and we all had fun watching them fight each other over it. But they moved past them and didn't allow their different view points ruin the show or a great partnership.
Eh I'm rambling now. Well if there is a heaven, I'd be looking forward watching movies with Ebert and Siskel. Hope God won't be an uptight ass about ratings and censorship.
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