Projection, much?: Tropes Vs MEN creators abscond with cash.
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[QUOTE=dass;39869745]Honestly, I think people like you blow this shit out of proportion like hell.
Not saying there isn't sexism, but you are implying he cares about "privilege" when in reality, he probably doesn't gives a fuck about privilege at all.
People like you always point out the opposite side of the debate as "priviliged racist/sexist/whateverist people who rub their privilege-filled belly and give no fucks about anything else other than 'up with white males, down with women/blacks/whateveristhedebateabout' ", and to add to all that, you start acting like sarcasm-filled jokesters with annoying and unfunny words. It's like everyone who brings a different idea to the table is suddenly the devil himself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=dass;39869805]...What?
So, an author's ideas are of no concern now?
Huh...
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Fixed.
Oh, and I get it at the same place where you get your extremism. Down at corridor 4.[/QUOTE]
I'm very very far from extreme, I just have a basic understanding of feminism, really. And of course he doesn't care about his privileges, that would require acknowledging that they exist. And you're really showing a lack of basic understanding of the subject, there's no need to be super hyperbolic, I don't think or act in the way you're presenting me.
[QUOTE=thisispain;39869849]anything outside of the scope of the work is not part of the work and therefor irrelevant to the work itself, this is a cornerstone of 20th century literary analysis and criticism
an author cant tell you how to feel or respond to a work[/QUOTE]
I very much doubt the head of Nintendo designed mario and Princess Peach as a secret sexist fantasy...
[QUOTE=dass;39869916]I very much doubt the head of Nintendo designed mario and Princess Peach as a secret sexist fantasy...[/QUOTE]
and i very much dont care because authors intent is irrelevant
if you have proof in the body of the work for your claims then its a valid interpretation
[QUOTE=dass;39869893]It totally wasn't a bunch of extremist kids on the internet assuming shit or anything. Nooo not at all.
You know what? Theres a bunch of people here who should be ambassadors or have some high place in governing something, seeing as there is no grey areas whatsoever to their ideas, the world will be great! Some geniuses![/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't think that saying that all gypsies should be exterminated is in a grey area. It's not like we're all naive idiots, and your some bastion of rationality. You're just a racist.
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Plus, it's pretty clear your only objection to people analyzing games is that you don't like the conclusion they've come to.
[QUOTE=thisispain;39869910]no-one twisted your words; you went into a thread about the gypsy holocaust and when someone said "No one deserves this kind of treatment" and you disagreed and gave a fascinatingly cringe-worthy speech about how someone stole your bike
go to hell[/QUOTE]
Touched a nerve there?
I don't think you understand what's life like out of your country.
The best part about this is that you outright ignore anyone who has a different idea from yours, despite whatever is said against them.
And you did twist my words.
lmao i love it how the systematic genocide of an ethnic group is now a grey area
brilliant
keep up the good work
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39869944]Yeah, I don't think that saying that all gypsies should be exterminated is in a grey area. It's not like we're all naive idiots, and your some bastion of rationality. You're just a racist.
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Plus, it's pretty clear your only objection to people analyzing games is that you don't like the conclusion they've come to.[/QUOTE]
I don't even have to make this shit up :v:
Where did I say all gypsies should be exterminated?
C'mon, give me an exact quote. Don't make up shit.
[QUOTE=dass;39869980]Touched a nerve there?
I don't think you understand what's life like out of your country.
The best part about this is that you outright ignore anyone who has a different idea from yours, despite whatever is said against them.
And you did twist my words.[/QUOTE]
Do enlighten us about life in your country. More specifically how you would solve the problem. Mainly so you can get banned.
[QUOTE=thisispain;39869926]and i very much dont care because authors intent is irrelevant
if you have proof in the body of the work for your claims then its a valid interpretation[/QUOTE]
because your opinions are right and everyone else is wrong/doesnt matters
ok lol
[QUOTE=dass;39869994]I don't even have to make this shit up :v:
Where did I say all gypsies should be exterminated?
C'mon, give me an exact quote. Don't make up shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=dass;38186573][QUOTE=En Ex;38182444]Are you all fucking kidding me?
Hitler murdered hundreds of thousands of Gypsies (Roma and Sinti) in a similar way to how the Jews and other groups were targeted.
No one deserves this kind of treatment.[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't say the same after living here.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Genocidal Racism" - Starpluck))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=dass;39869916]I very much doubt the head of Nintendo designed mario and Princess Peach as a secret sexist fantasy...[/QUOTE]
You're really showing your ignorance and lack of understanding on the subject.
[QUOTE=dass;39869980]And you did twist my words.[/QUOTE]
Uh you're twisting ours as well, I have no idea what this gypsy stuff is all about, but they do face a whole lot of oppression and racism.
[QUOTE=dass;39869980]Touched a nerve there?
I don't think you understand what's life like out of your country.
The best part about this is that you outright ignore anyone who has a different idea from yours, despite whatever is said against them.
And you did twist my words.[/QUOTE]
ur unironically a terrible person dude. thats what this argument really boils down to
[QUOTE=dass;39870002]because your opinions are right and everyone else is wrong/doesnt matters
ok lol[/QUOTE]
no, thats how literary analysis works. because you're analysing the work itself, not the creator
[QUOTE=Bobie;39869988]lmao i love it how the systematic genocide of an ethnic group is now a grey area
brilliant
keep up the good work[/QUOTE]
And I love how you grabbed a bit of this and a bit of that and made it sound like I said something like that.
Really, you can't make this shit up. Keep up with the good work!
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[QUOTE=Hellduck;39870000]Do enlighten us about life in your country. More specifically how you would solve the problem. Mainly so you can get banned.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't be with death camps or gas chambers or anything of the sort, if that's what you're baiting me to say.
[QUOTE=dass;39870031]And I love how you grabbed a bit of this and a bit of that and made it sound like I said something like that.
Really, you can't make this shit up. Keep up with the good work![/QUOTE]
actually real talk the burden of proof is on your shoulders
[QUOTE=dass;39870031]And I love how you grabbed a bit of this and a bit of that and made it sound like I said something like that.
Really, you can't make this shit up. Keep up with the good work![/QUOTE]
look at that fucking quote of you. that is not remotely ambiguous. you did really say something like that. you completely, utterly, totally, unquestionably, unmistakably did.
[QUOTE=dass;39869980]Touched a nerve there?
I don't think you understand what's life like out of your country.[/QUOTE]
im a british national, lived in the netherlands, traveled europe, met gypsies, and i live in the US now so im pretty sure i do know what life is like outside of my country, thanks for assuming tho
[QUOTE=thisispain;38187920]i'm more familiar with gypsies than you are[/QUOTE]
i meant that
[QUOTE=dass;39869980]The best part about this is that you outright ignore anyone who has a different idea from yours[/QUOTE]
you assume that youre the first gypsy hating genocidal loon ive ever met. i lived in europe; youre not the first, you wont be the last.
[QUOTE=dass;39870031]And I love how you grabbed a bit of this and a bit of that and made it sound like I said something like that.
Really, you can't make this shit up. Keep up with the good work!
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It wouldn't be with death camps or gas chambers or anything of the sort, if that's what you're baiting me to say.[/QUOTE]
This is a great example of how intent isn't magic. Maybe you don't actually think Gypsies should literally be murdered and you were just making a joke or whatever but [b]what you said is still extremely racist[/b].
[QUOTE=Ownederd;39870025]ur unironically a terrible person dude. thats what this argument really boils down to[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not.
You don't know me, and even if you did, neither you nor anyone else here has a single clue of what goes on outside of your countries other than knowing the horror stories everyone knows about.
[QUOTE=dass;39870002]because your opinions are right and everyone else is wrong/doesnt matters
ok lol[/QUOTE]
if you have a good argument to dismiss new criticism id love to see it
[QUOTE=dass;39870085]No, I'm not.
You don't know me, and even if you did, neither you nor anyone else here has a single clue of what goes on outside of your countries other than knowing the horror stories everyone knows about.[/QUOTE]
gypsies are shape shifting reptiles from aldebaran
omg how did u know this
[QUOTE=dass;39870085]No, I'm not.
You don't know me, and even if you did, neither you nor anyone else here has a single clue of what goes on outside of your countries other than knowing the horror stories everyone knows about.[/QUOTE]
uh you're clearly a pretty racist guy. which qualifies for unironically terrible
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39870082]This is a great example of how intent isn't magic. Maybe you don't actually think Gypsies should literally be murdered and you were just making a joke or whatever but [b]what you said is still extremely racist[/b].[/QUOTE]
You know what?
A moment of honesty?
Theres people with much bigger reasons to complain about gypsy people and possibly even have that idea (which was exaggerated, now that I take a look at it) which I got banned for than me.
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[QUOTE=Ownederd;39870102]gypsies are shape shifting reptiles from aldebaran
omg how did u know this[/QUOTE]
I'm not even replying to you anymore. All you can do is half-assed jokes.
thats cool
you still dont have the right to say "dont call me a racist or the devil" when you post like that
if it was anyone else on this forum id be like "yeah you're right"
not you
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39870107]uh you're clearly a pretty racist guy. which qualifies for unironically terrible[/QUOTE]
Then theres about a whole continent full of racists then, that make me sound like an initiate.
That is, if I were an actual racist...
[QUOTE=dass;39870114]You know what?
A moment of honesty?
Theres people with much bigger reasons to complain about gypsy people and possibly even have that idea (which was exaggerated, now that I take a look at it) which I got banned for than me.
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I'm not even replying to you anymore. All you can do is half-assed jokes.[/QUOTE]
no there aren't. there's no legitimate reason to hate someone based on their ethnicity.
and excuse me, i am taking this extremely fucking seriously. christ knows why, because your mind will not be changed.
[QUOTE=dass;39870145]Then theres about a whole continent full of racists then, that make me sound like an initiate.
That is, if I were an actual racist...[/QUOTE]
you sure do have a lot of dedication to declare that you aren't racist even though you've said plenty of material that reinforces the social concept of racism quite a bit
[QUOTE=dass;39870114]You know what?
A moment of honesty?
Theres people with much bigger reasons to complain about gypsy people and possibly even have that idea (which was exaggerated, now that I take a look at it) which I got banned for than me.[/QUOTE]
that doesn't make what you said any less wrong
but yeah you're racist, just because some gypsies stole your stuff or whatever it is that makes you think they're awful doesn't mean you should judge an entire people for it
it's ok you made a mistake but stop defending it so much
[QUOTE=dass;39870145]Then theres about a whole continent full of racists then[/QUOTE]
no
there are good people in europe who dont hold your terrible opinions, so dont group yourself with them to give yourself authority
[QUOTE=thisispain;39870138]thats cool
you still dont have the right to say "dont call me a racist or the devil" when you post like that
if it was anyone else on this forum id be like "yeah you're right"
not you[/QUOTE]
Not like I really care about what you say or think since to you, the whole world is either black or white and there are no reasons for a grey area.
(and now I wait for people to say the grey area is genocide)
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