Not all of my classes were spent in a classroom. Maybe I went to a better public school than you did.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25412878]And the social skills of private school students matter... why?[/QUOTE]
Half the reason for school is for social interaction between kids.
I'm of the belief that nobody gets any real education out of school. If you want to learn, you'll teach yourself.
My shitty school didn't teach any programming at all so I taught myself. If people are truly interested in something they'll do what I did. Most kids in school don't give a crap, so no matter how well you pay teachers they aren't going to convince somebody to learn when they've already determined that they're not going to learn anything.
I don't think I learned anything useful from school since like 5th grade. They just shove a truckload of useless and false informant down your throat and call it education. I could have done the same thing reading Wikipedia for 8 hours a day.
Republicans are fucking retarded.
Democrats aren't much better... Fuck it, I'm going communist.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;25413490]I'm of the belief that nobody gets any real education out of school. If you want to learn, you'll teach yourself.
My shitty school didn't teach any programming at all so I taught myself. If people are truly interested in something they'll do what I did. Most kids in school don't give a crap, so no matter how well you pay teachers they aren't going to convince somebody to learn when they've already determined that they're not going to learn anything.
I don't think I learned anything useful from school since like 5th grade. They just shove a truckload of useless and false informant down your throat and call it education. I could have done the same thing reading Wikipedia for 8 hours a day.[/QUOTE] the fact that kids can take biology and still not believe in evolution shows this and the fact that about half of america doesn't know the sun is a star
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;25413490]I'm of the belief that nobody gets any real education out of school. If you want to learn, you'll teach yourself.
My shitty school didn't teach any programming at all so I taught myself. If people are truly interested in something they'll do what I did. Most kids in school don't give a crap, so no matter how well you pay teachers they aren't going to convince somebody to learn when they've already determined that they're not going to learn anything.
I don't think I learned anything useful from school since like 5th grade. They just shove a truckload of useless and false informant down your throat and call it education. I could have done the same thing reading Wikipedia for 8 hours a day.[/QUOTE]
Why do kids in other countries do so much better than american schooling? It's part american attitude, and part american system. The system still needs reform. And kids need school one way or the other.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413557]Why do kids in other countries do so much better than american schooling? It's part american attitude, and part american system. The system still needs reform. And kids need school one way or the other.[/QUOTE]
Cause there system has them memories things better, which has nothing to do with thinking properly
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;25413541]Republicans are fucking retarded.
Democrats aren't much better... Fuck it, I'm going communist.[/QUOTE]
Yeeee dude communism its so rebellious and cool.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413557]Why do kids in other countries do so much better than american schooling? It's part american attitude, and part american system. The system still needs reform. And kids need school one way or the other.[/QUOTE]
It depends on how achievement is being measured. If it's just some sort of standardized test, you're really just testing to see how much useless crap you've crammed into their brains. Most standardized test questions don't involve any sort of logical thought process; either it's something you remember or you don't remember.
It's shit like "Earth is how many miles from the sun?" You either know it or you don't, and if you don't you can't logically sort it out.
Better questions would be like "How would you shorten the travel time to Mars?" and then test to see how they came to their conclusion, which doesn't necessarily have to be correct. They should just show that they're able to think through a problem. But no, that takes too much effort for educators to grade.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413615]Cause there system has them memories things better, which has nothing to do with thinking properly[/QUOTE]
Thinking properly is clearly not something we should ask you about.
The canadian education system is miles ahead of the american one, it's not public school, it's america.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25413617]Yeeee dude communism its so rebellious and cool.[/QUOTE]
What if he really is in favor of communism? there still are poeple that support it
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;25413624]It depends on how achievement is being measured. If it's just some sort of standardized test, you're really just testing to see how much useless crap you've crammed into their brains. Most standardized test questions don't involve any sort of logical thought process; either it's something you remember or you don't remember.
It's shit like "Earth is how many miles from the sun?" You either know it or you don't, and if you don't you can't logically sort it out.
Better questions would be like "How would you shorten the travel time to Mars?" and then test to see how they came to their conclusion, which doesn't necessarily have to be correct. They should just show that they're able to think through a problem. But no, that takes too much effort for educators to grade.[/QUOTE]
So change the system to be about having good teachers. Teachers should be required to be trained, and have extensive knowledge in their field in order to be hired even for a shitty position. it should be a well paid position that requires training in suit. It shouldn't be what america has trivialized it to.
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413650]What if he really is in favor of communism? there still are poeple that support it[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there are, and they're the ones that are detached from reality. Communism isn't possible in real life. It's just a beautiful idea.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413629]Thinking properly is clearly not something we should ask you about.
The canadian education system is miles ahead of the american one, it's not public school, it's america.[/QUOTE]
Because i went to American schooling I don't know how to think? I learn from reading and the internet
As in favor communism you mean he thinks the name sounds cool?
Probably 99% of people who "support communism" on this fourm don't know the first thing about it.
Yee dude, going to get a soviet union flag to show my colours. Stupid capitalists!
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413681]Because i went to American schooling I don't know how to think? I learn from reading and the internet[/QUOTE]
Well with your mastery of the language, it's easy to see that.
"Their system has them memories things better", that's what you said earlier, that's why I'm mocking you now.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413720]Well with your mastery of the language, it's easy to see that.
"Their system has them memories things better", that's what you said earlier, that's why I'm mocking you now.[/QUOTE]
Im using a phone that puts words in that's why
Then turn off the word prediction or whatever
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25413709]As in favor communism you mean he thinks the name sounds cool?
Probably 99% of people who "support communism" on this fourm don't know the first thing about it.
Yee dude, going to get a soviet union flag to show my colours. Stupid capitalists![/QUOTE]
I understand how it works and think it would work great with implanting new technology
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413758]I understand how it works and think it would work great with implanting new technology[/QUOTE]
I highly doubt you understand communism, real communism. and no "implanting new technology" except for mind control will do much of anything for the hopes of communism.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413758]I understand how it works and think it would work great with implanting new technology[/QUOTE]
What do you like about it? Seriously?
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25413774]What do you like about it? Seriously?[/QUOTE]
The sharing recourses and taking away greed(money)
Communism to my understanding is that people have no say in how anything goes legislation wise, everything is regulated by the government, and everyone is forced into an occupation
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413770]I highly doubt you understand communism, real communism. and no "implanting new technology" except for mind control will do much of anything for the hopes of communism.[/QUOTE]
Why would it need mind contol? As long as it's working good then it would not need it
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[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25413803]Communism to my understanding is that people have no say in how anything goes legislation wise, everything is regulated by the government, and everyone is forced into an occupation[/QUOTE]
That's not communism its self it just seems that a lot of communist countries did that
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25413803]Communism to my understanding is that people have no say in how anything goes legislation wise, everything is regulated by the government, and everyone is forced into an occupation[/QUOTE]
That's not really what it is at all when it comes right down to it.
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413808]Why would it need mind contol? As long as it's working good then it would not need it
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That's not communism its self it just seems that a lot of communist countries did that[/QUOTE]
Because greed is a very human emotion and it would take mind control to get rid of it and make people function in a communal sense like communism requires, over a country size region.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413791]The sharing recourses and taking away greed(money)[/QUOTE]
I'm right, he doesn't know anything about communism.
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Angst
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413823]That's not really what it is at all when it comes right down to it.
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Because greed is a very human emotion and it would take mind control to get rid of it and make people function in a communal sense like communism requires, over a country size region.[/QUOTE]
Well then what is it when it comes down to it?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25413823]That's not really what it is at all when it comes right down to it.
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Because greed is a very human emotion and it would take mind control to get rid of it and make people function in a communal sense like communism requires, over a country size region.[/QUOTE] you don't need mind control to take away greed there are a lot of ways how environmentally you can do it
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[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25413838]I'm right, he doesn't know anything about communism.
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Angst[/QUOTE]
Then what is communism if you know so mu h about it
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413791]The sharing recourses and taking away greed(money)[/QUOTE]
I'll reply to your simplistic statement with a simplistic question.
Why work harder when you don't get rewarded for it? Why have the government manage everything?
Why not encourage private business?
Even with modern technology, western civilization would become a shithole if all governments turned communist.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25413857]Well then what is it when it comes down to it?[/QUOTE]
The ultimate goal of communism as I understand it is to become a communal society that negates the idea of person possession and relegates decisions into a group sense, jobs are dealt with a number of ways, but more or less, the existence of a formal government disappears and society governs itself.
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25413860]you don't need mind control to take away greed there are a lot of ways how environmentally you can do it
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Then what is communism if you know so mu h about it[/QUOTE]
You really need to grow up a few years and learn a few more things before you talk about this all.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25413887]I'll reply to your simplistic statement with a simplistic question.
Why work harder when you don't get rewarded for it? Why have the government manage everything?
Why not encourage private business?
Even with modern technology, western civilization would become a shithole if all governments turned communist.[/QUOTE]
Use machines to do most of the unwanted jobs leaving fun jobs, you can use a computer to manage resources and business makes greed and would not be needed if you could get anything you needed when you wanted to
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