Turkey can lay claim to Crimea under Ottoman Empire treaty w/ Catherine The Great
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[QUOTE=proch;44281235]You know what
let's restore the Holy Roman Empire
I mean Germany can handle it can't it[/QUOTE]
Let's restore the Teutonic Knights as well while we're at it.
I'm sure you weren't using that clay anyway, were you?
[editline]18th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44281282]The Byzantines got so butthurt when the Frankish emissaries pointed that out.[/QUOTE]
Also the reason why Karl the Great (who most certainly isn't called Charlemagne, you buttmad Frenchies) was crowned Roman Emperor by Leo III.
[QUOTE=Scar;44281289]Let's restore the Teutonic Knights as well while we're at it.
I'm sure you weren't using that clay anyway, were you?[/QUOTE]
Not nearly as well as the Teutonic Order could I'm sure.
Are they serious about it, or just trying to poke fun at it?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44281340]Are they serious about it, or just trying to poke fun at it?[/QUOTE]
Yes
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44281340]Are they serious about it, or just trying to poke fun at it?[/QUOTE]
If they're serious, there will be a lot of Russian tourists in Turkey soon
Those tourists won't defend themselves
[QUOTE=Scar;44281289]
Also the reason why Karl the Great (who most certainly isn't called Charlemagne, you buttmad Frenchies) was crowned Roman Emperor by Leo III.[/QUOTE]
I always assumed that was because Leo III was drunk with power.
And pissy that the other Patriarchs thought he was a semi-heretical asshole.
Hint: [sp]he was.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44281388]I always assumed that was because Leo III was drunk with power.
And pissy that the other Patriarchs thought he was a semi-heretical asshole.
Hint: [sp]he was.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Well, yeah.
The whole successor of St.Petrus bullshit is just, well, bullshit, all Pentarchs were supposed to be equals.
I say do it!
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;44281202]Didn't Russia lose the Crimean War?
If anything, that bolsters the Turkish claims on the Crimea in my eyes.
[/QUOTE]
It takes less than a minute to google that out for precise information, as well as seeing that
[quote]By art. IV Britain, France, Sardinia and Turkey restored to Russia "the towns and ports of Sevastopol, Balaklava, Kamish, Eupatoria, Kerch, Jenikale, Kinburn, as well as all other territories occupied by the allied troops."[/quote]
Crimea was basically handed back to Russia.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44281608]
Crimea was basically handed back to Russia.[/QUOTE]
Which would actually strengthen their position in that they were holding to the stipulations of the treaty.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44281131]"Turkey has threatened Russia!"
"Tales of your misdeeds are told from Ireland to Cathay!"[/QUOTE]
"You just had a sexual experience with your nephew!"
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;44281928]"You just had a sexual experience with your nephew!"[/QUOTE]
"Your low character is the subject of Greek plays!"
[QUOTE=Scar;44282275]"Your low character is the subject of Greek plays!"[/QUOTE]
"May Allah destroy your house!"
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44281608]It takes less than a minute to google that out for precise information, as well as seeing that
Crimea was basically handed back to Russia.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the crucial point of that statement is:
[quote]By art. IV Britain, France, Sardinia and Turkey restored to Russia "the towns and ports of Sevastopol, Balaklava, Kamish, Eupatoria, Kerch, Jenikale, Kinburn, [B]as well as all other territories occupied by the allied troops."[/B][/quote]
So yeah, the Allied forces occupied the land and Russia lost.
I'm fully confident that the Turks can take the Crimea again.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;44284707]Yeah, but the crucial point of that statement is:
So yeah, the Allied forces occupied the land and Russia lost.
I'm fully confident that the Turks can take the Crimea again.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't most of that fighting force English and French?
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;44281159]This just in thousands of Janissaries have arrived in the Crimea, they are not wearing any military insignia.
Turkey insists they are a Crimean self defence force, depsite being armed with muskets and cannon of obvious Ottoman design.[/QUOTE]
A worthy opponent to the Serb volunteers :v:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/1pRu79D.gif[/img]
Sorry for the use of a gif it just feels right here.
Christ, and people say [i]we're[/i] land hungry invaders
Gross horrible journalism at its finest
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/20repx/is_anybody_aware_of_the_treaty_signed_between_the/[/url]
I actually am living in a Town that was largely influenced and expanded upon by the Teutonic order.
And Marienburg is just around the corner, good as new.
Teutons do your work please
I think every country should make claims to each other based on historical treaties and ownership. Imagine the headlines: "Denmark and France dispute claims over England as England reclaims a quarter of the earth. Italy disintegrates amid France's confusion."
[QUOTE=scurr;44292671]I think every country should make claims to each other based on historical treaties and ownership. Imagine the headlines: "Denmark and France dispute claims over England as England reclaims a quarter of the earth. Italy disintegrates amid France's confusion."[/QUOTE]
Its silly. The Ottoman Empire fell apart so them even considering calling a claim is a bit absurd. Its this same logic that allowed Hong Kong to be taken over by the oppressive PRC.
[QUOTE=scurr;44292671][B]I think every country should make claims to each other based on historical treaties and ownership.[/B] Imagine the headlines: "Denmark and France dispute claims over England as England reclaims a quarter of the earth. Italy disintegrates amid France's confusion."[/QUOTE]
Hundred Years War v.2.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;44292965]Hundred Years War v.2.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't the whole 18th century the second hundred years war basically?
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