The Official Wikileaks Megathread: All Wikileaks news will be posted here! - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589383]Thats exactly the problem. Its nothing to do with whether we know it or not, its whether a terrorist reads that shit and bombs the fuck out of us. Do you not see the dangers in that?[/QUOTE] In the diplomatic cables there has been nothing that added any real risk to anyone. The listing of critical sites could be put together by pretty much anyone with a brain and a computer.

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589383]Thats exactly the problem. Its nothing to do with whether we know it or not, its whether a terrorist reads that shit and bombs the fuck out of us. Do you not see the dangers in that?[/QUOTE] A terrorist could bomb just about anywhere and cause massive damage, yet they don't, what makes you think this information will change anything?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26589423]A terrorist could bomb just about anywhere and cause massive damage, yet they don't, what makes you think this information will change anything?[/QUOTE] They have'nt had the locations of where we manufacture snake venom in case of germ warfare until now etc

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589445]They have'nt had the locations of where we manufacture snake venom in case of germ warfare until now etc[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#List_of_BSL-3_and_BSL-4_facilities[/url] Public access to the location of places with smallpox and other such things. (Even Ebola)

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589445]They have'nt had the locations of where we manufacture snake venom in case of germ warfare until now etc[/QUOTE] PppppfffhHAHAHAHAAHAHA.

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589383]Thats exactly the problem. Its nothing to do with whether we know it or not, its whether a terrorist reads that shit and bombs the fuck out of us. Do you not see the dangers in that?[/QUOTE] Yesss the terrorists will their B2's against us!!!! to bomb our children !! omgggg wikileaks is the real threat to amrican secutiry!!!

Use of [code] tags will probably come in handy soon.. Instead of posting the full articles, you should probably take the headlines with a little modification to it and [url] tag it. That way, everything's nice and neat. Also, I see you missed a part of my code, I'll figure out what parts you're missing.

release the trutthhhhhhhhhh

[QUOTE=RayDark;26589466]PppppfffhHAHAHAHAAHAHA.[/QUOTE] doesn't matter if what dogass says holds any ground, all of your replies have been infinitely more childish than what you're making him out to be.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;26590312]doesn't matter if what dogass says holds any ground, all of your replies have been infinitely more childish than what you're making him out to be.[/QUOTE] And yet Wikileaks is still a powerful tool, and it will be no matter what he makes it out to be.

[QUOTE=RayDark;26590339]And yet Wikileaks is still a powerful tool, and it will be no matter what he makes it out to be.[/QUOTE] Doesn't mean your acting any less of an ass about it. Let the guy have his opinion.

[QUOTE=Dalndox;26590355]Doesn't mean your acting any less of an ass about it. Let the guy have his opinion.[/QUOTE] He has an opinion.

[QUOTE=RayDark;26590339]And yet Wikileaks is still a powerful tool, and it will be no matter what he makes it out to be.[/QUOTE] Up until now all I've seen between you two is "They're a threat because X" "Go back to your XBox". Actually say something instead of flaming him without showing [i]why[/i] he's wrong or whatever it is that's getting you all up at arms.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;26590474]Up until now all I've seen between you two is "They're a threat because X" "Go back to your XBox". Actually say something instead of flaming him without showing [i]why[/i] he's wrong or whatever it is that's getting you all up at arms.[/QUOTE] Wikileaks is a powerful tool because it exposes governments/organizations/people for what they really are, be it bad or good, it is still useful, this should be easy to see in any general persons view, or am I incorrect, Daijitsu? Oh and then the purgatory rating spree. Well, are you going to prove me wrong about the above or not, Dai? Or did you butt into a pointless argument to post your pointless opinion about how we should all post our pointless opinions instead of bickering like half of the News section?

I love how you're all stupidly and one-sidedly arguing at another topic other than wikileaks based EVENTS at hand. Doesn't Assange look great with his hair white? Right? I hope he leaks the locations of the stores that dress him.

[b][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-pfizer-nigeria]New Cable: Pfizer used dirty tricks to avoid clinical trial payout[/url][/b] [release][b]Cables say drug giant hired investigators to find evidence of corruption on Nigerian attorney general to persuade him to drop legal action[/b][/release] [release] The world's biggest pharmaceutical company hired investigators to unearth evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general in order to persuade him to drop legal action over a controversial drug trial involving children with meningitis, according to a leaked US embassy cable. Pfizer was sued by the Nigerian state and federal authorities, who claimed that children were harmed by a new antibiotic, Trovan, during the trial, which took place in the middle of a meningitis epidemic of unprecedented scale in Kano in the north of Nigeria in 1996. Last year, the company came to a tentative settlement with the Kano state government which was to cost it $75m. But the cable suggests that the US drug giant did not want to pay out to settle the two cases – one civil and one criminal – brought by the Nigerian federal government. The cable reports a meeting between Pfizer's country manager, Enrico Liggeri, and US officials at the Abuja embassy on 9 April 2009. It states: "According to Liggeri, Pfizer had hired investigators to uncover corruption links to federal attorney general Michael Aondoakaa to expose him and put pressure on him to drop the federal cases. He said Pfizer's investigators were passing this information to local media." The cable, classified confidential by economic counsellor Robert Tansey, continues: "A series of damaging articles detailing Aondoakaa's 'alleged' corruption ties were published in February and March. Liggeri contended that Pfizer had much more damaging information on Aondoakaa and that Aondoakaa's cronies were pressuring him to drop the suit for fear of further negative articles." While many thousands fell ill during the Kano epidemic, Pfizer's doctors treated 200 children, half with Trovan and half with the best meningitis drug used in the US at the time, ceftriaxone. Five children died on Trovan and six on ceftriaxone, which for the company was a good result. But later it was claimed Pfizer did not have proper consent from parents to use an experimental drug on their children and there were questions over the documentation of the trial. Trovan was licensed for adults in Europe, but later withdrawn because of fears of liver toxicity. The cable claims that Liggeri said Pfizer, which maintains the trial was well-conducted and any deaths were the direct result of the meningitis itself, was not happy about settling the Kano state cases, "but had come to the conclusion that the $75m figure was reasonable because the suits had been ongoing for many years costing Pfizer more than $15m a year in legal and investigative fees". In an earlier meeting on 2 April between two Pfizer lawyers, Joe Petrosinelli and Atiba Adams, Liggeri, the US ambassador and the economic section, it had been suggested that Pfizer owed the favourable outcome of the federal cases to former Nigerian head of state Yakubu Gowon. He had interceded on Pfizer's behalf with the Kano state governor, Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau – who directed that the state's settlement demand should be reduced from $150m to $75m – and with the Nigerian president. "Adams reported that Gowon met with President Yar'Adua and convinced him to drop the two federal high court cases against Pfizer," the cable says. But five days later Liggeri, without the lawyers present, enlarged on the covert operation against Aondoakaa. The cable says Liggeri went on to suggest that the lawsuits against Pfizer "were wholly political in nature". ... [b][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-pfizer-nigeria]Full Article[/url][/b] [/release] Source: [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-pfizer-nigeria]The Guardian[/url] [b][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-burma-nuclear-weapons]More Cables: WikiLeaks cables suggest Burma is building secret nuclear sites[/url][/b] [release][b]Fears of bomb plan as witnesses tell US embassy that North Koreans are involved with underground facility in jungle[/b][/release] [release][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-burma-nuclear-weapons][b]Full Article[/b][/url][/release] Source: [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-pfizer-nigeria]The Guardian[/url]

since pretty much everyone is immediatelly discounting those who don't blindly support wikileaks, aka [QUOTE=RayDark;26589297]Back to your Xbox, I'm not explaining why if you cannot yet see.[/QUOTE] shit like this, for example, i'm reposting my reasoning i have no issue bringing corruption / war crimes to light but releasing diplomatic information is dangerous [QUOTE=BrickInHead;26547287]I was alright when wikileaks was publishing documents about War atrocities. That's shit that should be brought to light. But Assange has gone too far; he's acting like an outright terrorist. I'm not doing it in the stupid conservative manner of saying "HE'S A TERRORIST GET HIM"; he's extorting world governments for fucks sake. This entire situation is led by this woefully misguided ideal that the public needs to know everything our governments do; we fucking [I]don't[/I]. It's impossible to have a secure nation that can't operate internally. Shit like possible invasions and our responses to them are absolutely necessary to be prepared. Releasing that sort of information simply destroys the effort we've taken to improve our image globally. All of the shit that Obama has done for us has been blown out the window by these acts. Just as the individual has a right to privacy, the government does as well. fuck if it weren't for lack of transparency the United States wouldn't even [I]exist.[/I] Nor would the bill of rights. [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] in a time where our government needs to be focusing on building the economy back up, Assange is just tossing shit at them and distracting them[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BrickInHead;26547844]free speech actually has a pretty defined set of rules i'd say that threatening to release documents that could topple governments and ways of life isn't covered by free speech FP's "rah rah rah fight the powa" attitude is getting very old now. A proper society necessitates a cooperation between the people and the government. The government can't breach the rights of its citizens, and needs to work in their best interests, and citizens need to act in such a manner that they can facilitate the government's duties that are in place for them. this whole idea that the government is corrupt is overplayed; yes, there are most certainly individuals that are corrupt within world governments, and individuals who attempts to steer their governments in a direction that may be against the norm. but what people need to realize is that despite all of the stupid shit our governments do, most of them actually are autonomous organizations that actually are trying to do what's best for their constituency and the world. The United States for instance (can't speak for the UK, don't know too much about their politics), despite all of the stupid shit it does, is trying to perpetuate relatively noble causes. We are the primary supporter of the United Nations, which sends peacekeeping forces out to the world to save civilians and facillitates international discussions and is one of the forefront shapers of domestic politics in developing countries; we push forth ideals of gender equality; we push forth ideals of supporting the poor (even the conservatives; despite their hatred of taxes, most conservative politicians are actually quite the philanthropists, donating money to individual charities). seriously; for a moment, conceptualize what it is that a government does as a whole. Everything that can be perceived as negative done by our country is done for our benefit. Just one last brief example: people get infuriated by the war in iraq, "no blood for oil" etc. Their claims are correct; the war in iraq was entirely about oil. The gulf war was entirely about oil. We need to keep the Saudi Arabians afloat in their regime in order to support our own economy. Without the oil that flows out of the middle eastern region, our economy would [I]crumble[/I]. The global economic crisis that's going on right now? It would be more on track with the Great Depression if our channel of oil wasn't secure. tldr the government isn't really as bad as everyone makes it out to be; there are individual injustices of course, but to attack it as assange has is very destructive of international relationships that our gov't has been trying to prop up for the past two years[/QUOTE]

This has gotten out of hand, I don't want sites like banks or amazon.com to be down, where else would I get things I cant buy in my town as presents for the holidays?

[QUOTE=Dogass;26589043]Wikileaks/Anon is a bunch of douches.[/QUOTE] But this is acceptable as a reply, I presume.

[QUOTE=RayDark;26590947]But this is acceptable as a reply, I presume.[/QUOTE] you're acting like a fucking child saying "but he did it first!"; if you're going to try to take the "intellectual high road" high horse you shouldn't respond in such a fashion. You immediately attacked his character. It's unnecessary.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;26591105]you're acting like a fucking child saying "but he did it first!"; if you're going to try to take the "intellectual high road" high horse you shouldn't respond in such a fashion. You immediately attacked his character. It's unnecessary.[/QUOTE] Well then I apologize for that, then. It still doesn't make his comment acceptable, just because he isn't insulting [i]my[/i] character. And his questions had obvious answers.

[QUOTE=RayDark;26591333]Well then I apologize for that, then. It still doesn't make his comment acceptable, just because he isn't insulting [i]my[/i] character. And his questions had obvious answers.[/QUOTE] And yet you didn't really answer his questions. At all. In fact, your replies make you just as bad, if not worse than, the very person you're insulting.

I have no idea what the fuck you are all bitching about with this thread, I hate looking around for all the bullshit on Wikileaks, and thanks to this guy we have a single place for everything. Facepunchers will bitch about anything.

[QUOTE=Tyler_Durden;26592886]I have no idea what the fuck you are all bitching about with this thread, I hate looking around for all the bullshit on Wikileaks, and thanks to this guy we have a single place for everything. Facepunchers will bitch about anything.[/QUOTE] No bitching here, I'd actually brought up the idea of a Megathread in another thread, but BANNED USER was already way ahead of me and went through with it. I'm pleased as punch.

i cant believe the ddos actually did something

I have trouble saying 'wikileaks' out loud, I always end up saying 'wiki[i]links[/i]'.

honestly this was all fun and games at first but now its grown into a serious deal it was fun to support Assange and be like "yeaa fuck the government hahah lmao xD" but he's kind of a terrorist now, considering the massive harm he is willing to do our country and to the people who think he's doing the correct thing (aka rebellious fat 13 year olds who cant be rebellious in any other manner than supporting an aussie radical), please open your eyes and see that he is making threats against the United States, which if i recall correctly, is terrorism so if you aren't from America and you're supporting him, go ahead don't care you non-americans never liked us anyway however, for the people living in the United States who support this guy, please move somewhere else thanks

Challenging authority is not terrorism. Honestly though I'm pretty clouded on the whole situation, although I feel the website attacks are crossing the line.

Well this world is going to hell in a hand basket quickly.... Few weeks back every other news thread is someone being brutally murdered or raped or something, now we have different nations being put on the spot because of these cables....

[QUOTE=bopie;26594692]Challenging authority is not terrorism. Honestly though I'm pretty clouded on the whole situation, although I feel the website attacks are crossing the line.[/QUOTE] "challenging authority" is more for social injustice, like, y'know, apartheid or issues of rights