[quote]assault-style rifles[/quote]
Ugh really? What the fuck is an "assault-style" rifle?
[QUOTE=green bandit;44859746]I for one, if I see people open carrying guns inside a restaurant, I would not walk in there. I don't know this persons mental condition, or situation he's in. I don't want to be there if he cracks or something. Which is ironic as I work at a gun shop :v:[/QUOTE]
This isn't very sound logic. Think of all the people with various conditions who can still drive cars? People with sight and balance issues, people with extremely slow reaction times, people with serious anxiety, people who are at risk of dying behind the fucking wheel... if you're thinking like this you should be deathly terrified of most things in life.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44859961]I don't want to live in a world where someone stealing a candy bar suddenly turns the local gas station into a guerilla warfare shooting gallery.[/QUOTE]
It's not like you're allowed to shoot people for stealing. There has to be credible threat, and a kid dashing out of a store with a candy bar is far from it.
There are only three types of people who do this kind of open carry:
1. The kind who only want to piss people off who they consider "liberal", and then also get a constitutional chubby after they have a talk with the cops.
2. It's some lunatic looking to murder everyone in the joint, or someplace soon after.
3. It's halloween and some dude dressed up as GI Joe/some soldier/swat guy to get his one dollar/free burrito.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;44859776]iirc there are laws against yelling profanities in a public place[/QUOTE]
Technically, not against the yelling profanities part - but yes, it's usually considered a public disturbance and you will be asked to leave the area if police officers are present.
You really shouldn't have to ask your customers to do this.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44860067]Ugh really? What the fuck is an "assault-style" rifle?
This isn't very sound logic. Think of all the people with various conditions who can still drive cars? People with sight and balance issues, people with extremely slow reaction times, people with serious anxiety, people who are at risk of dying behind the fucking wheel... if you're thinking like this you should be deathly terrified of most things in life.[/QUOTE]
Stop trying to excuse weapons with vehicles, you talk about sounding logic and proceed to say this shit, it's completely fucking different
I hope they're not against people who simply carry a handgun in open sight for protection. I hate open-assault douchebags as much as the next guy but I see no issue with letting a person who carries a small handgun with them in.
[QUOTE=Episode;44860085]I hope they're not against people who simply carry a handgun in open sight for protection. I hate open-assault douchebags as much as the next guy but I see no issue with letting a person who carries a small handgun with them in.[/QUOTE]
Who are you going to protect yourself from at the resturant? Being robbed by the cashier? Attacked by the fryer? Just leave it in your car or something.
I don't even think you were allowed to carry guns into a lot of stores in the "old west." I don't know why people are suddenly thinking it's okay to carry guns into stores.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;44860082]Stop trying to excuse weapons with vehicles, you talk about sounding logic and proceed to say this shit, it's completely fucking different[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. Besides, vehicular accidents kill more people than guns do.
I can't help but feel you didn't even read what I said because you didn't address the point at all.
Hell I think a lot of old west towns banned guns entirely in town.
[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;44859799]I can't wait for some dumbass employee to try and use this when he catches a peek of someone's CCW by accident[/QUOTE]
it's not very CC if it was noticeable by a cook or the waiter who's never around
the whole point of the statement is to tell people that they weren't happy about the idiots marching in with rifles on their backs. That looks like a militia takeover and is panic inducing for patrons and staff who don't know what's going on. If it's one dude with a CC weapon that's hanging out it'd be completely within an employee's rights to ask them to tuck it away so it doesn't startle some soccer mom with her kids.
I feel like most cases of open carrying rifles just cause problems and add to the image that all American gun owners are irresponsible nutjobs
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44860106]Who are you going to protect yourself from at the resturant? Being robbed by the cashier? Attacked by the fryer? Just leave it in your car or something.[/QUOTE] In very rare cases, there are people who might rob something as stupid as a Restaurant and when the person pulls out a gun and attempts to shoot someone, you can quickly shoot them.
[QUOTE=Episode;44860152]In very rare cases, there are people who might rob something as stupid as a Restaurant and when the person pulls out a gun and attempts to shoot someone, you can quickly shoot them.[/QUOTE]
I dont think it's your job to be the police there, I wouldn't fuck with someone who is armed regardless if i had a gun or not. If they have their weapon drawn you wont be able to draw before you have 9mm of lead in your bosom
Open carry nutjobs always ruin it for everyone.
Unless you are in Alaska, you don't need to be open carrying shit. (And even in Alaska it really only applies to the remote regions.)
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;44860070]There are only three types of people who do this kind of open carry:
1. The kind who only want to piss people off who they consider "liberal", and then also get a constitutional chubby after they have a talk with the cops.
2. It's some lunatic looking to murder everyone in the joint, or someplace soon after.
3. It's halloween and some dude dressed up as GI Joe/some soldier/swat guy to get his one dollar/free burrito.[/QUOTE]
In this specific case it seems to be the kind of people leaving an event.
[QUOTE=Episode;44860152]In very rare cases, there are people who might rob something as stupid as a Restaurant and when the person pulls out a gun and attempts to shoot someone, you can quickly shoot them.[/QUOTE]
How many cases of armed robbery result in the robber actually using their weapon, though? It's unnecessary force. I realize you're probably just playing devil's advocate, so I don't direct that question to you specifically. But my point still stands - it's reckless to actually prepare to shoot someone on the off chance that they'd be willing to rob a Chipotle for chump change.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44860169]I dont think it's your job to be the police there, I wouldn't fuck with someone who is armed regardless if i had a gun or not[/QUOTE] So if he decides to start shooting people, just run? I mean, if you had a gun on you, are you really going to tell yourself "don't shoot don't shoot, let the police handle it"
*carries gun into thread*
Hello everyone let me just start off by saying [I]yes[/I] I HAVE A GUN but no I am not looking for attention I am just here to post (WITH MY GUN) in peace, please don't treat me differently just because I HAVE A GUN. I just want to post.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44860127]No it isn't. Besides, vehicular accidents kill more people than guns do.
I can't help but feel you didn't even read what I said because you didn't address the point at all.[/QUOTE]
Smoking, drugs, diseases, alcohol, vehicles, poison, you can bring up all you want and say they kill people and they cause more damage than guns and you can keep on going with your classic excuses that pro-gun usually say but at the end of the day, a gun is designed to kill and people aren't comfortable with that.
Oh, I'm sorry, some guy once corrected me on this, I guess I better get this out of the way as well. It's not the gun that kills the person, it's the "projectile launched from the device that kills the person".
[QUOTE=GunFox;44860179]Open carry nutjobs always ruin it for everyone.
Unless you are in Alaska, you don't need to be open carrying shit. (And even in Alaska it really only applies to the remote regions.)[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine depending on your community you'd still be welcomed in. I've been to a good handful of communities in wisconsin and especially minnesota where hunters will go to town with their gear on them because everybody knows everybody and they're on the way to/from wherever they were out hunting
[QUOTE=Episode;44860196]So if he decides to start shooting people, just run? I mean, if you had a gun on you, are you really going to tell yourself "don't shoot don't shoot, let the police handle it"[/QUOTE]
Robbers arent out for blood, they just want money. You could easily turn a robbery into a murder by drawing your weapon
[QUOTE=Episode;44860196]So if he decides to start shooting people, just run? I mean, if you had a gun on you, are you really going to tell yourself "don't shoot don't shoot, let the police handle it"[/QUOTE]
It's a matter of reaction time, In most instances you will not have time to shoot said person with a weapon when they already have their weapon drawn
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44860218]I wouldn't shoot on the basis that he could easily kill me, and drawing the weapon would give him a damn good reason to discharge his. Most robbers arent out for blood, they just want money. You could easily turn a robbery into a murder by drawing your weapon[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if you shoot him during the robbery, rather than shooting him when he's horribly harming others (cutting, shooting, etc)
[QUOTE=Episode;44860227]Yeah, if you shoot him during the robbery, rather than shooting him when he's horribly harming others (cutting, shooting, etc)[/QUOTE]
Well if its some maniac just shooting people for the hell of it you probably wont have the time to draw anyway. Besides, what are the odds of someone going in and just starting shooting. I think you should be more afraid of choking on the food you bought.
It seems that Chipotle only changed this policy because of pressure put on them by the reactionary anti-gun group [I]Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America[/I].
The gun group also called beforehand and requested permission to eat there.
[QUOTE=sgman91;44860243]It seems that Chipotle only changed this policy because of pressure put on them by the reactionary anti-gun group [I]Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America[/I].[/QUOTE]
backed by legendary mom, Michael Bloomberg.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44860242]Well if its some maniac just shooting people for the hell of it you probably wont have the time to draw anyway.[/QUOTE] I don't know how you'd know this, you seem to predict every future situation regarding a maniac shooter. But i'm not talking about some random maniac shooter. I'm talking about a robber who doesn't get what he wants and decides to shoot someone to get people to listen to his demands. Now of course, cases like this are very rare but we can't just disway it and say "meh, it'l probably never happen" Obviously there have been people in the past in public who have stopped a horrible crime by having a handgun on them, so that's why I see no issue with a small handgun. Anything against it at this point is rather just someones distate for one. The restaurants rules are not going to stop a robber or maniac from bringing a gun in. Now they can stop douchebags from bringing in AR15's cuz "hurr hurr my freedoms and rights"
[QUOTE=Episode;44860266]I don't know how you'd know this, you seem to predict every future situation regarding a maniac shooter. But i'm not talking about some random maniac shooter. I'm talking about a robber who doesn't get what he wants and decides to shoot someone to get people to listen to his demands. Now of course, cases like this are very rare but we can't just disway it and say "meh, it'l probably never happen" Obviously there have been people in the past in public who have stopped a horrible crime by having a handgun on them, so that's why I see no issue with a small handgun. Anything against it at this point is rather just someones distate for one rather than "it's actually hurting someone by being inside the building." The restaurants rules are not going to stop a robber or maniac from bringing a gun in.[/QUOTE]
stop watching 90's action movies
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