"govment came and took ma gator" - Woman fighting to keep pet gator
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So you could say that the woman was the insti[i]gator[/i] of this debacle?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49967351]i dunno, i live on the opposite side of the country from her and i have neighbors that have a couple gators as pets. they also have wolves and a lion as pets so they may not be the most normal of people[/QUOTE]
All the stereotypical eagle freedom biggotry uncle sam apart, America is a fucking wonderland.
[QUOTE=Brobattington;49967643]So you could say that the woman was the insti[I]gator[/I] of this debacle?[/QUOTE]
no, its the state who gave her the permit to own the gator in the first place coming to take it away from her now because its too big (something that shoulve been considered in the first place when they issued her license) thats the insti[I]gator[/I]
Come or go Postal, take your pick
[QUOTE=Sableye;49967335]I'm not exactly qualified but I'm going to go out on a limb and say the only reason why he hasn't attacked her or anything is because she probably overfeeds him, alligators only are active when they're hungry[/QUOTE]
Alligators are actually usually chill as hell. They take dedication to keep not-dangerous but if this lady was using the alligator to help cope with, then she probably has spent enough time with it for them to not be as feisty as would be expected from such an animal. Crocodiles are far more aggressive, and even they can be kept as pets with a lot of dedication. They're quite intelligent, too.
[video=youtube;O78CxqRl7NE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O78CxqRl7NE[/video]
However, although not domesticated or truly tame, it's akin (although not a precise analogy) to a feral cat where if raised from youth, they're more approachable than if you tried to take in an adult, which this individual crocodilian that she owned is clearly not.
[QUOTE=The Duke;49968557][video=youtube;O78CxqRl7NE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O78CxqRl7NE[/video]
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That's cute as fuck, would be cuter if it would wag it's tail
Happy end
[url]http://www.theledger.com/news/20161222/lakeland-woman-gets-to-keep-her-beloved-gator-rambo[/url]
[QUOTE]Mary Thorn said she would rather die than let anyone take her baby, Rambo, away from her.
[B]That is why she was relieved when officials with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission agreed to let her keep the 5-foot, 8-inch alligator in late September.[/B]
"We're all so glad that he is staying home," Thorn said Thursday afternoon in her front yard where signs warn that "everything bites." In addition to Rambo, she has several dogs in her fenced-in yard on Old Tampa Highway.
Thorn has been living with and training 15-year-old Rambo for more than a decade, but officials were debating whether to take him away because of permit issues. [/QUOTE]
Good to see that Rambo will get to stay in his home.
2016 just got a little bit better despite all the shit that happened.
[QUOTE=Wii60;51610893]Happy end
[url]http://www.theledger.com/news/20161222/lakeland-woman-gets-to-keep-her-beloved-gator-rambo[/url][/QUOTE]
YES! I'm so happy ;_;
I have a class II license and I can understand why they'd be concerned if she was incapable of taking care of him because she lacks that, but she's had him for almost [i]15 years[/i].
[QUOTE=Brobattington;51610933]2016 just got a little bit better despite all the shit that happened.[/QUOTE]
[quote]When she leaves her Lakeland home with Rambo, he has to be placed in a cage with his mouth taped shut. Something Thorn said Rambo thinks is a punishment.
The worst part of the agreement, Thorn said, is that she can no longer perform side-by-side with Rambo in public places like children's parties, retirement homes or conservation classes; something that brought Rambo a lot of happiness.[/quote]
:(
If you handle a gator for that long, that animal is literally going to depend on you. Gators make great pets if you can properly handle them and can accommodate them.
[editline]1st January 2017[/editline]
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Oh no, that poor gator. He must hate having his mouth taped. But that's a law that even I have to follow with a class II.
can gators even feel happiness from things like performing?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51611156]can gators even feel happiness from things like performing?[/QUOTE]
afaik intelligence is for the most part a trait associated with predators, so it would make sense that an apex animal like a gator would be capable of something like that, given the right environment and temperament
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51611156]can gators even feel happiness from things like performing?[/QUOTE]
They're one of the few reptiles that can be said to feel things like happiness and sadness. They're much smarter than we give them credit for.
[QUOTE=Mining Bill;51611170]afaik intelligence is for the most part a trait associated with predators, so it would make sense that an apex animal like a gator would be capable of something like that, given the right environment and temperament[/QUOTE]
Although fairly simple in procedure, the American Alligator are one of only two known reptiles (the other being the Mugger Crocodile) to have documented tool usage, by virtue of them selectively choosing small branches to balance on their snouts to lure birds that nest near shores to try to obtain them. Many crocodilians also cooperatively hunt with conspecifics.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51611156]can gators even feel happiness from things like performing?[/QUOTE]
Yes. They feel the whole range of emotions, however we can't really see them as easily since we're designed to translate facial expressions into emotions, being human beings and all. Since gators (and other reptiles too) don't articulate their facial structures to convey anything, as most of them are not social creatures and the ones that are communicate in different ways - we humans have a very hard time figuring out what exactly they're feeling.
From my experience with gators, they are actually quite emotional creatures. They're just very lazy.
[editline]2nd January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Duke;51611815]Although fairly simple in procedure, the American Alligator are one of only two known reptiles (the other being the Mugger Crocodile) to have documented tool usage, by virtue of them selectively choosing small branches to balance on their snouts to lure birds that nest near shores to try to obtain them. Many crocodilians also cooperatively hunt with conspecifics.[/QUOTE]
That's a recent discovery btw (the tool usage), it's super fucking fascinating.
I honestly think we're vastly underestimating most animals simply because we can't understand them, by virtue of simply different behavior. It's like the old European thought that peoples of different cultures were inferior simply because they weren't like them.
in exactly 3 months the gator will be on the news for eating a woman's forearm
[QUOTE=sYnced;51615429]in exactly 3 months the gator will be on the news for eating a woman's forearm[/QUOTE]
Why in three months when he's been owned by this woman for the past decade? Not only that, he's now not allowed to be in public without tape around his mouth due to the contract the woman signed in order to keep the gator.
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