MORE insane religion. How is this newsworth? - Killer mum stuffed Bible in baby's mouth - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22708890]Nobody is saying that. [editline]06:21PM[/editline] So those last few thousand years were religion was the base of all politics, and all those countries where it still is the base of all politics, they all had and have it wrong?[/QUOTE] Religion is the base of alot of morale, and because of that I think it's good that religion has had a part in politics, but as it looks today it would probably be better if we could separate politics and religion.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22709462]I said nothing of the sort. I said it was clearly a mental problem exacerbated by religion. I never said what happened was the fault of religion.[/QUOTE] If a person with mental disorders that plays video games regularly lashed out in violence, you'd be the one to say that it was the video games that "exacerbated" this behavior. But of course you would only say this if you happened to be against the use of video games which I assume you are not. You can come up with some point about how religion teaches hate, but to me, you are going to sound like Jack Thompson. It would be understandable if the story had a stronger connection with Christianity, for example, if someone killed another for bestiality (because it actually says to do that in the Bible), but there really isn't any correlation like that here.

She was batshit crazy, it honestly doesn't matter what else she had tacked on. If she was a facepuncher she'd try to stuff 100 junior whoppers down her babies throat.

[QUOTE=Pepin;22709828]If a person with mental disorders that plays video games regularly lashed out in violence, you'd be the one to say that it was the video games that "exacerbated" this behavior. But of course you would only say this if you happened to be against the use of video games which I assume you are not. You can come up with some point about how religion teaches hate, but to me, you are going to sound like Jack Thompson. It would be understandable if the story had a stronger connection with Christianity, for example, if someone killed another for bestiality (because it actually says to do that in the Bible), but there really isn't any correlation like that here.[/QUOTE] This. To me belief in god is belief in hope. Do you realise why they always say 'God is love'? Well that is because god is love, god is hope. There is nothing that says God is a man or a woman or a person being. 'God is in us and everywhere', so is love, hope and the light. It all depends on how you look at it. As said here, the Bible is never clear about things, it's all about how people interpret it.

[QUOTE=JDK721;22699026]source? I doubt someone who is mentally sane is going to be driven to do stupid things by a book a lot of things drive insane people[/QUOTE] Thinking the "voice of god" its talking to you when you hold you hands together and sit on the floor is pretty fuckin stupid.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;22709772]Religion is the base of alot of morale, and because of that I think it's good that religion has had a part in politics, but as it looks today it would probably be better if we could separate politics and religion.[/QUOTE] No it isn't. Religion says a lot of things we feel naturally. We are an empathic species, we are designed to feel compassion for one another. The trick comes in seeing everyone as human. Regardless, the only morals that you could say religion "created" are arbitrary bronze age restrictions.

Alright, this makes sense, you're right about this fact.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;22709941]This. To me belief in god is belief in hope. Do you realise why they always say 'God is love'? Well that is because god is love, god is hope. There is nothing that says God is a man or a woman or a person being. 'God is in us and everywhere', so is love, hope and the light. It all depends on how you look at it. As said here, the Bible is never clear about things, it's all about how people interpret it.[/QUOTE] The Bible is incredibly clear. It is very, very specific. You're joking yourself. And yes, I'm aware of the phrase and aware of the cause. It's a rather interesting trick, God. A phantom being created in your mind via the use of our respectably powerful ability to recreate people in our minds, a tool for empathic reasoning repurposed to conjure the illusion of an all powerful father figure that supplies us with comfort and support. A very interesting phenomenon, but nothing more than a trick, I assure you.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22710132]The Bible is incredibly clear. It is very, very specific. You're joking yourself. And yes, I'm aware of the phrase and aware of the cause. It's a rather interesting trick, God. A phantom being created in your mind via the use of our respectably powerful ability to recreate people in our minds, a tool for empathic reasoning repurposed to conjure the illusion of an all powerful father figure that supplies us with comfort and support. A very interesting phenomenon, but nothing more than a trick, I assure you.[/QUOTE] A magician never explains his tricks. In other words you just ruined God. :saddowns:

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22710132]The Bible is incredibly clear. It is very, very specific. You're joking yourself. And yes, I'm aware of the phrase and aware of the cause. It's a rather interesting trick, God. A phantom being created in your mind via the use of our respectably powerful ability to recreate people in our minds, a tool for empathic reasoning repurposed to conjure the illusion of an all powerful father figure that supplies us with comfort and support. A very interesting phenomenon, but nothing more than a trick, I assure you.[/QUOTE] I like the way this man thinks [I]*hi-five*[/I] [editline]04:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=wewt!;22710175]A magician never explains his tricks. In other words you just ruined God. :saddowns:[/QUOTE] You mean a [I]good[/I] magician never reveals his tricks... Christianity is very good at that

[QUOTE=Pepin;22709828]If a person with mental disorders that plays video games regularly lashed out in violence, you'd be the one to say that it was the video games that "exacerbated" this behavior. But of course you would only say this if you happened to be against the use of video games which I assume you are not. You can come up with some point about how religion teaches hate, but to me, you are going to sound like Jack Thompson. It would be understandable if the story had a stronger connection with Christianity, for example, if someone killed another for bestiality (because it actually says to do that in the Bible), but there really isn't any correlation like that here.[/QUOTE] Of course I would. But I wouldn't be against video games. Video games can be damaging to those who are damaged, but a videogame is not like religion. Religion works off of mob psychology, It weakens reason in a vast number of people and at the same time justifies nonsensical actions. Video games can, in certain circumstances, bring out violent behaviour, but only in individuals. It is a matter for each person to sort out for themselves, and something that affects one person hardly ever affects another. Religions are different. They have leaders, dogmas, rallys. Ideas spread and grow, violent sentiments begat more violent sentiments as the emotion spreads around. The tea party movement is a good example of this, a few leaders giving ideas to a plethora of followers resulting in a huge movement centered around anti intellectual ideals. The tea partiers function as a religion. [editline]07:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=wewt!;22710175]A magician never explains his tricks. In other words you just ruined God. :saddowns:[/QUOTE] Yes, but a good scientist always reveals his, and his tricks are always far better. For example, my favorite routine, the computer. I believe you've heard of it.

This is solely religions fault not because they had something wrong in their head, solely religion. Am I cool yet for hating other peoples beliefs?

[QUOTE=markg06;22710319]This is solely religions fault not because they had something wrong in their head, solely religion. Am I cool yet for hating other peoples beliefs?[/QUOTE] :sigh:

You know like how the queen sends you a telegram if you live to 100 or something? I reckon if you stuff a bible in a baby's mouth, Richard Dawkins should personally come round to your house, punch you square in the face and give you a well needed reality check.

Why are you guys making jokes about this, a baby died.

[QUOTE=Oppy;22710512]Why are you guys making jokes about this, a baby died.[/QUOTE] Internet. Freedom of speech. x, y, z

I do like the way you put your opinion about religion Mr. Scorpio, it's nice to see you actually have good arguments. And you're not generalizing as much as other people. I still like to look at my religion as a beautiful thing that helps me in life, but you do make some interesting and good points.

This would've never happened if I ate my muffin :(

[quote] a Christian fundamentalist who is also bi-polar [/quote] Whew...I don't...wow

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22710279]Of course I would. But I wouldn't be against video games. Video games can be damaging to those who are damaged, but a videogame is not like religion. Religion works off of mob psychology, It weakens reason in a vast number of people and at the same time justifies nonsensical actions. Video games can, in certain circumstances, bring out violent behaviour, but only in individuals. It is a matter for each person to sort out for themselves, and something that affects one person hardly ever affects another. Religions are different. They have leaders, dogmas, rallys. Ideas spread and grow, violent sentiments begat more violent sentiments as the emotion spreads around. The tea party movement is a good example of this, a few leaders giving ideas to a plethora of followers resulting in a huge movement centered around anti intellectual ideals. The tea partiers function as a religion.[/QUOTE] So your rebuttal is that my argument doesn't work because religion isn't like video games? But did I make that claim, or did I just use an analogy? Does the differences between religion and video games really affect my analogy? And why do you go into such detail about why you think religion is bad and what does mob psychology have to do with a bipolar lady killing her baby?

[QUOTE=Pepin;22712376]So your rebuttal is that my argument doesn't work because religion isn't like video games? But did I make that claim, or did I just use an analogy? Does the differences between religion and video games really affect my analogy? And why do you go into such detail about why you think religion is bad and what does mob psychology have to do with a bipolar lady killing her baby?[/QUOTE] I was explaining that you were correct to a point, that one can think video games can affect people's behavior and not want to ban them, and why I don't treat video games the same way I treat religion regardless of it's ability to possibly effect the way you act.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22712988]I was explaining that you were correct to a point, that one can think video games can affect people's behavior and not want to ban them, and why I don't treat video games the same way I treat religion regardless of it's ability to possibly effect the way you act.[/QUOTE] doesn't the bible say stuff like, love thy neighbor? if it gets people to act a little bit nicer, then what's so bad about it influencing people?

[QUOTE=JDK721;22699062]it was most likely primarily her mental issues, but yes religion probably contributed there are billions of religious people in the world and rarely do any of them ever do crazy shit like this[/QUOTE] wow you're the exact last person i'd expect to say something like that, im impressed

[QUOTE=Archy;22713285]doesn't the bible say stuff like, love thy neighbor? if it gets people to act a little bit nicer, then what's so bad about it influencing people?[/QUOTE] It also says that if a woman is raped and doesn't call for help then she deserves it, and that if a girl gets married and isn't a virgin and can't prove she is a virgin then she it to be taken outside her fathers home and stoned to death. It's not exactly the best book in the world.

Psychoses? Is that supposed to mean psychosis? In that case the involvement of religion isn't very important.

How in the fuck is that manslaughter? Diminished responsibility? [b][u]She fucking sat on a six-week old baby[/b][/u] What the fuck.

i hate how everybody assumes she's religious

I think it's more to do with the fact she's mental rather than religious. You're all just as bad as the people who blame video games for this kind of shit and would cry to ban video games if it was an instruction manual for GTA she shoved in her mouth rather than pages of the bible.

[QUOTE=Conn92;22713838]I think it's more to do with the fact she's mental rather than religious. You're all just as bad as the people who blame video games for this kind of shit and would cry to ban video games if it was an instruction manual for GTA she shoved in her mouth rather than pages of the bible.[/QUOTE] she might not even be religious, it just says she stuffed her baby's mouth with bible pages, probably because it has a lot of pages, not because it's a bible.

[QUOTE=Kondor;22713868]she might not even be religious, it just says she stuffed her baby's mouth with bible pages, probably because it has a lot of pages, not because it's a bible.[/QUOTE] bro the OP is only three lines and you still haven't read it