'Gamers' don't have to be your audience. 'Gamers' are over. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The Baconator;45831837]You literally never hear those other terms ever unless you are on the internet in a discussion questioning the term gamer.[/QUOTE] More realistically-- "Yeah, I'm kind of a hardcore gamer, haha. About half of my paychecks go straight to the Xbox, haha..." "I really like movies...I'm like, married to Netflix. My favorite this year? Uh, definitely Guardians, but the Grand Budapest Hotel was a really close second." "Oh, god, I love HBO. Did you watch True Detective? Oh, and the Wire, of course. Yeah I'm kind of a TV junkie, I love dramas, but I have a soft spot for some comedies. I missed a lot of Veep, so I'm binging on that right now to catch up..." "I'm a comic reader, I'm following a lot of the new Marvel stuff, it's really interesting. And sometimes I collect a little bit here and there, like at yard sales or conventions. It's kind of a hobby of mine."

gamers are evil shitbags who insult and demonize people over petty crusades let me insult and demonize these people while on a petty crusade for you

I like how a petty crusade lead by a [U]community[/U] of vile sexist anti-social loser gamers is helping fund a project designed around advancing female gamers in the gaming industry. Still not sure about what gaming culture is but a gamer really is just a person who enjoys video games enough identify with the term. In the end I really can't say that there is much of a gaming culture, more that gamers belong to many different communities surrounding their unified hobby.

anyone find it convenient that all these "Gamers are dead" articles all came out on the same day

It is spreading [url]https://archive.today/i928J[/url] [url]https://archive.today/2t93l[/url] [url]https://archive.today/YlBhH[/url]

[QUOTE=RichyZ;45833167]lol you legit used feminazi as a term my condolences[/QUOTE] It is still better than generalizing all of the feminists. There are different kind of feminists, and he probably refers to feminazis as the ones that are batshit insane and radical.

I think Zoe Quinn spoke the truth These sites have nothing to do with journalism. They are literally blogs. And no, that is not a defense. It's merely a better way to describe the sheer worthlessness of these articles.

It seems strange to me, as has been pointed out by many before me, that there even is such a thing as "gamer culture". While you can confine certain parts of international cultures to what some would perceive as "gamer culture", it is in modern day a widely different aspect of peoples lives. There no longer exists such a thing, and it is instead a part of what I would call "global culture" which is the culture of people. Now granted, there are places in the world where people don't have access to water, let alone a computer of any kind, but that is kind of besides the point I'm making, which is that while we have a huge global culture where people have fun, socialize across the entirety of the globe in many ways and entertain eachother and themselves with the "newfound" prospects of technology, there's still a slowly amassing mob of angry people who either do not understand the features of recent cultural changes (regarding the information exchange culture that is happening in a wide part of the global culture), or do not understand the fidelity of modern technology at all. And I'm not sure which saddens me the most, but I will not let them keep me down. In a generation filled with technological advances, where any and all information is never more than a reach away, a click away, the press of a finger, the voice of a curious mind, we should not exclude any part of that culture. We should embrace it!

Gamers should be your audience. Gamers exist. They're called gamers, video game enthusiasts, video game fans. No matter what you would call yourself, if you like video games and you'd consider them your hobby then you are a part of this overarching community. Gamers are not dead, they're here to stay.

"Gamer" is a person who enjoys a certain hobby and engages in certain community. [b]Gaming community[/b] exists. Gaming press exists. Therefore there's absolutely nothing wrong with a word "gamer". Dear videogames press, if you don't think that the community you're part of actually exists, then would you kindly just fuck right off and cease to exist. People were "gamers" when they tolerated your bullshit claim to be journalists while you were simply nothing of the like.

[quote] They don’t know how to dress or behave. Television cameras pan across these listless queues, and often catch the expressions of people who don’t quite know why they themselves are standing there. ‘Games culture’ is a petri dish of people who know so little about how human social interaction and professional life works that they can concoct online ‘wars’ about social justice or ‘game journalism ethics,’ straight-faced, and cause genuine human consequences.[/quote] I feel like I should be offended by this. Having been to Gamescom two weeks ago I met a whole bunch of really nice guys and girls there. One or two might have been overly shy, but not a single one of them was a unfriendly or problematic in any way. This demonization of gamers is completely over the top and idiotic.

Remember when we just played video games Me neither

It sorta attempts to scratch the surface of some social and health issues, or just problems found in the culture, problems that even the gamer culture themselves recognizes and/or even jokes about. Or so it seems to me..

I find it funny that this person thinks people who primilarly enjoy video games are trash but writing about video games for a living is somehow more respectable

[QUOTE=Robber;45833563]I feel like I should be offended by this. Having been to Gamescom two weeks ago I met a whole bunch of really nice guys and girls there. One or two might have been overly shy, but not a single one of them was a unfriendly or problematic in any way. This demonization of gamers is completely over the top and idiotic.[/QUOTE] Well, the read the last part.. or more closely, it has some idea going on.. [QUOTE]‘Games culture’ is a petri dish of people who know so little about how human social interaction and professional life works that [B]they can concoct online ‘wars’ about social justice or ‘game journalism ethics,’ straight-faced, and cause genuine human consequences. Because of video games.[/B][/QUOTE] Does that ring any bell to you? It sure does to me. It is a bit insulting how she says "people know so little about social human interaction" almost like as if anonymity for example didn't have anything to do with people behaving like they do online, like being strict or demanding. Sort of a like a mob. [editline]29th August 2014[/editline] Oh well, she's a.. she. What could she possibly know about gaming?

[QUOTE=Impact1986;45833156]It is spreading [url]https://archive.today/i928J[/url] [url]https://archive.today/2t93l[/url] [url]https://archive.today/YlBhH[/url][/QUOTE] It legitimately pisses me off that tripe like this is what circulates throughout the gaming media and not pieces with actual thought put into them like [URL="http://nastythingssaidabout.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/the-terrible-misogyny-in-the-games-industry/"]this[/URL]. Which, by the way, I encourage everyone to read. It's very, very long, but it's very well-thought-out, well-argued, and he even provides a legitimate solution to the problem (which isn't something you often see these days). Best gaming article I've read in the past few [I]years[/I]. This shit is seriously making me just want to fucking quit the internet. It used to be that the toxic, jumbled, misguided politics attached to gaming were limited to message boards and social media, but now that it's taken over just about all the biggest gaming news sites that I follow to keep up on my favorite hobby, it's fucking inescapable.

Does anyone even go to these sites? Gaming Journalism seems dumb.

[QUOTE=Shugo;45833718]It legitimately pisses me off that tripe like this is what circulates throughout the gaming media and not pieces with actual thought put into them like [URL="http://nastythingssaidabout.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/the-terrible-misogyny-in-the-games-industry/"]this[/URL]. Which, by the way, I encourage everyone to read. It's very, very long, but it's very well-thought-out, well-argued, and he even provides a legitimate solution to the problem (which isn't something you often see these days). Best gaming article I've read in the past few [I]years[/I]. This shit is seriously making me just want to fucking quit the internet. It used to be that the toxic, jumbled, misguided politics attached to gaming were limited to message boards and social media, but now that it's taken over just about all the biggest gaming news sites that I follow to keep up on my favorite hobby, it's fucking inescapable.[/QUOTE] That article you linked is great and someone should tweet it to MissAngerist and TotalBiscuit

[QUOTE=RichyZ;45833167]lol you legit used feminazi as a term my condolences[/QUOTE] how do i context

[QUOTE=Oizen;45833791]Does anyone even go to these sites? [B]Gaming Journalism is dumb[/B].[/QUOTE] fixed it for you. every now and then you get a decent article about stuff, but its mostly crap atm. i have found that the best way, to actually find info about games currently... , is to seek negative info about any game and follow up from there(which are rarely found in articles in gaming "news" sites, unless we're counting the comments of course). which tend to come from the so called "nerds"/etc from around the net. :v:

If anything, this boom of 'Misogynist Drama' articles truly shows how rotten and sick this gaming journalism industry has become. More obsessed with crusades against some constructed culture enemy than actual coverage of video games. If anything is dying, it's these journalism websites. They've become infested with Culture Writers who have turned them into blogs. Fancy soapboxes that serve only to preach to their social justice choir.

People who identify as gamers are probably just plain good 'ole nerds.

What I heard from this article is, "Since when did being a neckbeard become cool?" Basically, I agree.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;45831837]You literally never hear those other terms ever unless you are on the internet in a discussion questioning the term gamer.[/QUOTE] Uh, they're used in general culture and conversation as a label.

This isn't an article, surely it's a rant right? Anyway barring that it's got about as much truth in it as when Jack Thompson claimed Doom contributed to Columbine shootings.

sensationalist article title So basically the author is just saying that in general the gaming industry as well as gaming communities are becoming less shitty?

[QUOTE=V12US;45835236]If anything, this boom of 'Misogynist Drama' articles truly shows how rotten and sick this gaming journalism industry has become. More obsessed with crusades against some constructed culture enemy than actual coverage of video games. If anything is dying, it's these journalism websites. They've become infested with Culture Writers who have turned them into blogs. Fancy soapboxes that serve only to preach to their social justice choir.[/QUOTE] I really don't even get what they're trying to say. Are they trying to say that gamers have changed? Have they stayed the same and gaming has changed? All of the above? Maybe instead of blaming the gamers for the problems they face they should look at where they fit into this changing world. When you're the one guy shouting "everything is changing!" is it because the world left you behind, or was it you that changed? This reads like a 9th grade coming of age story. And frankly, it's a pretty shitty story with a predictable ending: they don't make it. Next time don't hoard the conch you assholes.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45835124]how do i context[/QUOTE] 'Feminazi' was more or less invented by Rush Limbaugh as a snarl word that has no real context.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;45838659]'Feminazi' was more or less invented by Rush Limbaugh as a snarl word that has no real context.[/QUOTE] Well there's this thing about how language changes over time...

there are plenty of other things to be embarrassed about when it comes to video games than other people who play them