Again: Pro-Clinton Polls Say she won the 2nd DemDebate; Internet says otherwise. - Polidicks

Sanders basically supports a lot of the same things hillary does, but he's a MUCH better rhetorician, and his policies on the whole, in my opinion, are better than hers. [editline]15th November 2015[/editline] plus the fact that Hilary is a hypocritical corporate whore

Bernie > "Donations from Wall Street are justified because 9/11" all days of the week

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49122892]america's first female president, known for historically taking it dry whenever any unscrupulous corporation comes running to her with a sufficient wad of cash in hand what a precedent she'll set![/QUOTE] Well if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then what's the alternative? Donald Fucking Trump? anyone else in the Republican party these days? I didn't say I'd be head over heels for Hilary, but push come to shove it's her or even worse. Sucks but that's what'll happen if it comes to it.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49124253]Well if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then what's the alternative? Donald Fucking Trump? anyone else in the Republican party these days?[/QUOTE] If more people ignored the parties and wrote in the same person on the ballot, we'd be in a better place. Even if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I'd rather spend my first presidential vote on someone I support 100%, instead of blindly voting for whatever corporate whore the political parties choose. We are fast approaching a permanent state of Plutocracy and Oligarchy. When you all start complaining about President Clinton or President Trump, Remember that [i]you[/i] voted for them, so the only person you can blame is yourself. I will still have the right to criticize the president because I never voted for either of them.

How was Obama polling against Hilary at this point?

[QUOTE=adamsz;49124991]If more people ignored the parties and wrote in the same person on the ballot, we'd be in a better place. Even if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I'd rather spend my first presidential vote on someone I support 100%, instead of blindly voting for whatever corporate whore the political parties choose. We are fast approaching a permanent state of Plutocracy and Oligarchy. When you all start complaining about President Clinton or President Trump, Remember that [i]you[/i] voted for them, so the only person you can blame is yourself. I will still have the right to criticize the president because I never voted for either of them.[/QUOTE] A caste system as well.

[QUOTE=Medevila;49127032]ever since Hillary announced her candidacy, opinion polling surrounding her has tracked almost exactly with opinion polling surrounding Obama which may be a problem: IIRC something like 43% of Democrats wouldn't want a "third Obama term" prior to her announcing her candidacy, opinion polling placed her consistently higher than Obama's numbers[/QUOTE] Pretty sure what he meant was "how was Obama polling against Hillary at this point of the 2008 election?" [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_2008_presidential_candidates]November 16-19, 2007: Hillary Clinton 42%, Barack Obama 23%, John Edwards 13%[/url]

You may call me a "frothing mouth Bernie cultist" but my opinion is based on what I've seen him say. His politics seem the most close to the North European way, and way different from any of the other candidates so in my eyes if he doesn't win it doesn't make much of a difference who will. America will keep being America.

[QUOTE=Radical_ed;49122907]Sanders basically supports a lot of the same things hillary does, but he's a MUCH better rhetorician, and his policies on the whole, in my opinion, are better than hers. [editline]15th November 2015[/editline] plus the fact that Hilary is a hypocritical corporate whore[/QUOTE] The difference is Bernie has a reputation of backing his stuff up. Hillary doesnt.