• Intel wants to charge $50 to unlock stuff your CPU can already do
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[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24932426]Because we could always get a better Intel one[/QUOTE] I've used both and they're on par with each other, though intel is higher quality but you have a better value with AMD.
Sticking with Intel because of family loyalty. My dad works at the plant in Chandler, AZ.
Never used an AMD processor. If Intel goes through with this bullshit I will buy an AMD the next time I get a new computer.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;24933375]:bandwagon:[/QUOTE] It's hard to bandwagon, Processors being better than the other isn't QUITE an opinion, it's kinda a faction [editline]10:41PM[/editline] ...a fact-opinion btw
Greedy bastards.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;24932342]ITT: People bashing AMD when they haven't tried an AMD processor.[/QUOTE] I have, sold it in favor for a Q9550. Much more bang for the buck :keke:
'Proud to own AMD hardware Plus, it doesn't make a difference anyways. They both make the same product with a different label, in some cases with unlocking shit.
They've been doing this for ages, just never this obvious. Not news.
Cant wait for the Intel Resurgence pack. It adds 20 new pixels!
Sorry guys it's uncrackable. It has Intel CPU Internet Connection DRM.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24934396]It's hard to bandwagon, Processors being better than the other isn't QUITE an opinion, it's kinda a faction [editline]10:41PM[/editline] ...a fact-opinion btw[/QUOTE] Looks like we got a techy here guys. NEWSFLASH i7 isnt the best shit on the market! people even buy i7 with 2.4 ghz omfg more cores, better processor ollloll
[QUOTE=Van-man;24934606]I have, sold it in favor for a Q9550. Much more bang for the buck :keke:[/QUOTE] Q9550 is still good, even being somewhat old, but I agree X4 955/965 have the same performance as Q9550 for cheaper.
i7 is the best shit on the market.
[QUOTE=Lazore;24939736]Looks like we got a techy here guys. NEWSFLASH i7 isnt the best shit on the market! people even buy i7 with 2.4 ghz omfg more cores, better processor ollloll[/QUOTE] i7 is the best consumer shit though
[QUOTE=BmB;24939836]i7 is the best shit on the market.[/QUOTE] On 1156 socket, yup. However, on 1366 socket, it's just a trap for rich idiots. 1366 socket is the best example to show how fucking greedy Intel can be.
Don't diss Bloomfield.
I have never pirated, stolen or performed copyright violations to my knowledge in my life. And I will support the cracking movement for this with ludicrous approval if they decide to pull this shit. Or I'll go back to AMD, I miss my 2600 Athlon XP.
Time for the swedes to get their asses in gear.
Didn't someone want to create a mobo with hardware drm or something some time ago?
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24939841]i7 is the best consumer shit though[/QUOTE] The i7 is a fine CPU. Too bad you're limited to just i7 [QUOTE=Tetracycline;24934396]It's hard to bandwagon, Processors being better than the other isn't QUITE an opinion, it's kinda a faction [editline]10:41PM[/editline] ...a fact-opinion btw[/QUOTE] I think you meant fact, or factual. Not faction, when comparing to opinion? But what puts AMD ahead, is not the raw performance of the CPU (Okay, I can admit AMD's don't pull as hard as Intels...), but its the gratitude to the consumer. We don't have to update our motherboards each time a new architecture comes into place. Situation: You buy an i5 because you didn't want to dish out the initial $300 for the i7. So you had to buy a socket that fit the i5.. a few months later, you want an i7. You have to go out and purchase a new motherboard and CPU to get that upgrade. An expensive upgrade, atleast $400-500. Reason: Socket royalties from the manufacturer to Intel. Situation: You bought an i7 930, and a great motherboard at that too. You purchased it a year after its release, and thought this is a great purchase. You were absolutely correct. However, a few years pass and your CPU is now a hold back to crank out the performance. You look at the market, and see your socket is now incompatible with the newer CPU (sandybridge) on the market. You now have to purchase a new CPU and motherboard. Reason: Intel switched a pin to a different side, disabling you from going to sandy-bridge. Thats just cruel to the customer. You invest a generious portion of cash to just the CPU and motherboard (Note: Intel motherboards are normally more expensive compared to the AMD solution) and then the brand you're loyal too, tells you must pay more to upgrade. Now its equally cruel for the brand to come forward, and tell you that you must pay more, on top of the already expensive CPU, to get its extra features. Your brand loyality is not mutual, since the brand is not loyal to you. AMD is a bit more loyal to you. They appreciate your business. Since AMD does release new sockets, it doesn't mean you have to update your motherboard every two years to put the new CPU in. Backwards compatibility is very nice. Sure, AMD processors don't produce more power than the Intel competitors. But look at price to performance. We can see there isn't a HUGE gap between the two. Compare the 980X ($1000 CPU) to the 1090T ($300 CPU). We can see, the 1090T comes to about 20% the performance of the 980X, but its 60% cheaper. WHOA! Talk about price-to-performance. Now for investment, we can see that the skulltrail is dead end. You won't be able to update to a new processor ever on the boards. AMD, you can invest wisely. If you already have an AMD processor, you can slip it into the AM3 board. And wait for the funds to be available to buy the 1090T, or even a bull-dozer (when released). You won't suffer from a computer that is incomplete. I got a 955BE, and it performs just as well as a Q9550 that I picked up for a server. So what did I lose? The Q9550 was more expensive than the 955BE, and now sits as a domain controller. :\ Waste of money. So its your decision.. really is. Stay loyal to a brand, that is not loyal to you (only your wallet); or try something new. Try an AMD, which is less cost at initial build, but has some minor drawbacks.
This sort of thing has happened for ages. Aren't Phenom 2s really just Phenom 4s with two cores disabled? The only real difference is the shitty unlocking thing which would be akin to unlocking your extra cores or overclocking slightly. It's just a bit cheeky that they charge people to do it.
Apparently, this is how it works: -Client runs an Intel upgrade application, which identifies whether the processor can be upgraded or not. -Client orders an upgrade key from an authorized distributor, and, once the order is approved, downloads the key. -Upgrade application validates the upgrade key, and then updates computer firmware. -The firmware turns on new processor features after the next computer reboot. Would this be "cracked" easily, by dumping the firmware and flashing it to other motherboards? [editline]01:19PM[/editline] Sure, the BIOS may contains unique identifiers, but I'm pretty sure that can bypassed easily.
[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;24943715]This sort of thing has happened for ages. Aren't Phenom 2s really just Phenom 4s with two cores disabled? The only real difference is the shitty unlocking thing which would be akin to unlocking your extra cores or overclocking slightly. It's just a bit cheeky that they charge people to do it.[/QUOTE] Actualy I believe they're disabled because on of the cores is faulty and instead of throwing them away the rebrand them as a lower processor.
I just bought a new case for my computer. Turns out I have to download a $50 program online in order to unlock functionality of 2 of my 3 rear fans.
[QUOTE=dag10;24943901]I just bought a new case for my computer. Turns out I have to download a $50 program online in order to unlock functionality of 2 of my 3 rear fans.[/QUOTE] *Mr.killa has been banned for the following reason "saying TPB is your friend"* Or you could just, you know physically mod the fans.
I was kidding really. Who would be fucking stupid enough to make software-upgradeable fans? [url]http://downloadmorefans.com[/url] maybe But then again, with what Intel's doing, you never know.
Even if they don't go through with this, I'll never buy Intel ever again. Fucking screw ANY company that has this shitty business model.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;24943470] We don't have to update our motherboards each time a new architecture comes into place.[/QUOTE] Actually that's a pretty bad thing, you upgrade your CPU power and the chipset bandwiths, clocks, faster interfaces etc. etc. don't dollow suit, so your new CPU is now crippled. What Intel does is they have the nerve to throw the old shit away so the new shit can be even better than it was.
[QUOTE=BmB;24951374]Actually that's a pretty bad thing, you upgrade your CPU power and the chipset bandwiths, clocks, faster interfaces etc. etc. don't dollow suit, so your new CPU is now crippled. What Intel does is they have the nerve to throw the old shit away so the new shit can be even better than it was.[/QUOTE] But if I want to upgrade I have buy not only a cpu but also a new mobo. Not only are intel pricey, so are their mobos. Together added it is quite expensive.
Upgrades are overrated, usually they don't lead to much and are just a waste of money anyway. What you want is a balanced system where bottlenecks are few. So it's better to just wait and replace the whole computer at once instead of hapzardly improving just one aspect at a time. Intel are pricey because they currently have a monopoly on the high end. AMD needs to get their shit together and make a better CPU.
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