Hostage situation taking place now in Orlando. [50+ dead, suspect killed]
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[QUOTE=plunger435;50502516]I don't think letting people comment things like "Muslim barbarians should all be killed anyways." was contributing anything either.[/QUOTE]
Wow plunger, I've got to say after finally being able to load unreddit I am at a loss for words at how disingenuous you have been regarding the deleted comments.
All of these posts were deleted from that thread and no, a significant number of them are not the bullshit that you described.
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Just saw this about it on Twitter, and it's legitimately destroyed me
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[quote]Wow. That's gut wrenching.[/quote]
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[quote]This is really horrific but can someone explain how he managed to kill such a large number of people without them escaping after the initial shots? Were the exits barricaded?
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[quote]Has an ISIS connection been found?[/quote]
[quote]Of the top 200 comments 9 haven't been deleted, gj mods. Jesus Christ.[/quote]
[quote][URL]https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president-obama-delivers-statement-7[/URL]
Obama's statement is about to start.[/quote]
[quote]If you are in Orlando, please be safe and please donate blood if you can. Here are the locations to donate blood: O+ and O- blood donors needed. Due to the shooting overnight, the hospital and blood bank is critically low right now for donated blood. If you are able, please go this morning to donate at one of the locations below. This valuable gift you can give is a direct way to help those injured from this tragic incident. The Orange, Osceola, and Seminole locations open today are: Orlando - West Michigan Donor Center 345 West Michigan St #106 Orlando, FL 32806 Phone: 407-835-5500 Fax: (407) 835-5505 Sun: 7:00 AM - 2:00 PM Orlando - Main Donor Center 8669 Commodity Circle Orlando, FL 32819 Phone: (407) 248-5009 Fax: (407) 455-7570 Sun: 7:00 AM - 1:00 PM Apopka Donor Center 131 North Park Ave Apopka, FL 32703 Phone: (407) 884-7471 Fax: (407) 884-7475 Sun: 9:00 AM - 3:00 PM Kissimmee Donor Center 1029 North John Young Pkwy Kissimmee, FL 34741 Phone: (407) 847-5747 Fax: (407) 847-9605 Sun: 8:00 AM - 2:00 PM Oviedo Donor Center 1954 West 426 #1100 Oviedo, FL 32765 Phone: (407) 588-1291 Fax: (407) 365-9982 Sun: 7:00 AM - 3:00 PM Lake Mary Donor Center 105 Waymont Ct #101 Lake Mary , FL 32746 Phone: (407) 322-0822 Fax: (407) 328- 1119 Sun: 8:00 AM - 2:00 PM
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[quote]Is it me, or does the news coverage seem a little less than genuine on the Orlando shooting? I recall the tragedy in Newtown and the total condemnation of that tragedy since the victims were children. Shamefully, I can't help but think that there are people out there who are like Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and his "reap what you sow" tweet. These people may not care as much about the Orlando tragedy since many of the victims were adults from the LGBT community. Just shameful.
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One Blood is in need of water, juice, snacks, & fruit for all those donating blood right now. 379 W Michigan St Orlando, FL 32806
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Why was discussion censored in this sub?[/quote]
[quote]I don't think it's in my place to ask for totally uncensored news, but I do think it would be fair to at least let everyone know why the mods are shutting down relevant topics. This event was hurtful to everyone, including the mods, so it's understandable to want to withdraw from hurtful information, but I also feel that it's unfair to leave everyone else in the dark. Can we at least know why the topics are being shut down for the time being?
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[quote]So a known muslim, that was under investigation by the FBI, attacks a gay bar during pride month. And they say it has nothing to do with Muslims? Bullshit.
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[quote]CBS news is reporting the shooter called 911 just before the event and stated his full name and alliegience to ISIS...
How long until this comment is deleted?[/quote]
[quote]Hopefully the 52 injured have speedy and reletivly pain free recovery[/quote]
[quote]Most of this thread seems to be "[removed]".[/quote]
[quote]CNN reporting that gunman called 911 and claimed allegiance to ISIS prior to attack.[/quote]
[quote]New details: CNN claims he called 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS. It's CNN so I'm going to wait a sec before believing it.[/quote]
[quote]Gunman 'pledged allegiance to Isis on 911 call' – report[/quote]
[quote]NBC’s Pete Williams is reporting that Omar Mateen called 911 before the attack and when the operator answered, “swore his allegiance to [Abu Bakr al-]Baghdadi”, the leader of terror group Isis.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jun/12/florida-nightclub-shooting-terrorism-suspect-updates[/URL][/quote]
[quote]This is a terrible tragedy. The FBI has said the killer had ties to Isis and this person was a radical Muslim. [/quote]
[quote]"Shooter called 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS right before shooting" according to NBC. [URL]http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/terror-hate-what-motivated-orlando-nightclub-shooter-n590496[/URL]
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[quote]CNN is reporting that the gunman called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS.
[quote]Must have got the wrong number. Unless the police are recruiting for ISIS now.[/quote]
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[quote]We're not "crying about censorship." We're just pointing out that you're censoring.
There, does disagreeing with you "violate your rules?"
Pointless to try to censor anyway. You'll just lose readers to other threads. People want the news and they will have it. Commentary on the news is part of the news -- something that the mainstream has failed to grasp.
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[quote]Thoughts going out to all the families of those affected :(. A lot of people on reddit today need to go outside and cool off before posting, we all know what happens when new information is jumped on that happens to be false.
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[quote]50+ dead, 50+ injured. I love 10minutes from where this happened. This is crazy and sad.[/quote]
[quote]it is very sad that a massacre like this is being overshadowed by moderators on the INTERNET. so disrespectful to the victims... absolutely disgusting, moderators.
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[quote]Over fifty people die and all people can do is spread hate.
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[quote]What kind of megathread deletes 9/10 comments? Clearly there's an agenda here.[/quote]
[quote]If you are in Orlando, please be safe and please donate blood if you can. Here are the locations to donate blood:
O+ and O- blood donors needed. Due to the shooting overnight, the hospital and blood bank is critically low right now for donated blood. If you are able, please go this morning to donate at one of the locations below.
This valuable gift you can give is a direct way to help those injured from this tragic incident. The Orange, Osceola, and Seminole locations open today are:
[LOCAL BLOOD DONOR CENTER INFORMATION][/quote]
[quote]"The incident is being investigated as an act of terrorism. Mir Seddique, Mateen's father, told NBC News, "this has nothing to do with religion." Seddique said his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting." Source: [URL]http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/orlando-nightclub-shooting-emergency-services-respond-reports-gunman-n590446[/URL]
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[quote]I only live 15 minutes away from The Pulse. I'm headed out this afternoon to pickup a home defense shotgun anf concealed carry sidearm. I didn't trust Orlando before I moved here, and I certainly don't trust this city now.
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[quote]So this was infact a terrorist attack? Has any group claimed responsibility for this? or is it still just one fanatic fulfilling his extremist visions?
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[quote]You all should be ashamed for censoring the fucking second largest TERRORIST attack on American soil.
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[quote]The FBI says there are suggestions the shooter was a muslim.
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[quote]Don't really have any good words. Just offering my condolences.[/quote]
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50502828]I get why you guys want to not politcize this tragedy... but...
Holy Shit...
[MEDIA]https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/742034549232766976[/MEDIA][/QUOTE]
God damn, man, what a piece of shit. Like I mean it's not even a partisan thing, he's just a legitimately bad person period, no matter how you look at it.
[QUOTE=Swiket;50502927][img]http://i.imgur.com/7LNP5ak.jpg[/img]
christ[/QUOTE]
Weird, this is similar to what happened after the Virginia Tech massacre, with all the deceased phones' ringing.
[QUOTE=Thlis;50503246]Wow plunger, I've got to say after finally being able to load unreddit I am at a loss for words at how disingenuous you have been regarding the deleted comments.
All of these posts were deleted from that thread and no, a significant number of them are not the bullshit that you described.[/QUOTE]
You managed to cherrypick comments out of the entire 10K comment page and they are still off topic posts about censorship mixed in.
To anyone who wants to see the comments themselves here you are:
[url]https://unreddit.com/r/news/comments/4nql8f/orlando_nightclub_shooting_megathread/[/url]
[QUOTE=Howlthrug;50503260]Weird, this is similar to what happened after the Virginia Tech massacre, with all the deceased phones' ringing.[/QUOTE]
How is that weird? I'm willing to bet the same phenomenon happens after every mass shooting, assuming the victims are adults in a fairly well-off location (ie having access to mobile phones).
[QUOTE=plunger435;50503276]You managed to cherrypick comments out of the entire 10K comment page and they are still off topic posts about censorship mixed in.
To anyone who wants to see the comments themselves here you are:
[URL]https://unreddit.com/r/news/comments/4nql8f/orlando_nightclub_shooting_megathread/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Why were they deleted?
Can you actually explain why those were deleted if the mods are not indiscriminately deleting and banning users?
Why was this deleted?
[quote]Don't really have any good words. Just offering my condolences.[/quote]
Or this?
[quote]Thoughts going out to all the families of those affected :(. A lot of people on reddit today need to go outside and cool off before posting, we all know what happens when new information is jumped on that happens to be false.
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And no, that's not out of the entire 10K comment page. I collected as many as a I felt were needed to make a point. I guarantee there are many more completely genuine posts.
Can we, like, not make this into a Reddit censorship thread?
Please?
When I see the thread having new posts I kind of expect new info, not the usual internet debate dance
[QUOTE=Thlis;50503306]Why were they deleted?
Can you actually explain why those were deleted if the mods are not indiscriminately deleting and banning users?
And no, that's not out of the entire 10K comment page. I collected as many as a I felt were needed to make a point. I guarantee there are many more completely genuine posts.[/QUOTE]
Because there's no reason a thread about a Florida mass shooting should be derailed into people bitching about being censored online?
[QUOTE=Apache249;50503294]How is that weird? I'm willing to bet the same phenomenon happens after every mass shooting, assuming the victims are adults in a fairly well-off location (ie having access to mobile phones).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree. Maybe I'm a cold hearted bastard, but I think I would have other things on my mind - I don't think the phones would bother me. I'd be aware of them, but I'd like to think I could just rationalize them away in favor of whatever task I'm doing to help the people.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503314]Can we, like, not make this into a Reddit censorship thread?
Please?
When I see the thread having new posts I kind of expect new info, not the usual internet debate dance[/QUOTE]
Oh no you're totally right, when the facts turn against you the argument is no longer necessary.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50503316]Because there's no reason a thread about a Florida mass shooting should be derailed into people bitching about being censored online?[/QUOTE]
Did you actually read anything I posted?
Why were these deleted?
[quote]Thoughts going out to all the families of those affected :(. A lot of people on reddit today need to go outside and cool off before posting, we all know what happens when new information is jumped on that happens to be false.
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[quote]Don't really have any good words. Just offering my condolences.[/quote]
[quote]Just saw this about it on Twitter, and it's legitimately destroyed me
[url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkxJB8XUUAAYsj0.jpg[/url][/quote]
If you want to complain of a particular subreddit censorship— do it on [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/"]/r/The_Donald[/URL], not on facepunch.com
Shut up about reddit already
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;50503077]I had a friend that was there, I haven't seen him post on facebook or heard from him since it happened.
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Apparently he's in the hospital right now but I don't know how serious his injuries are.[/QUOTE]
I hope they pull through okay.
This is a situation for which I don't have words to adequately describe. :(
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;50503350]"Before I extend my sympathies, let me just point out how CORRECT I was about the shooter's beliefs. Aren't I smart guys? But seriously, I don't want your accolades, I just want us to finally be smart!"
You fucking cunt, dude.[/QUOTE]
He is trying to be sneaky. No one congratulated Donald Trump and admitted they were the wrong ones all along.
He is trying to say "I was right all along" but how can he do this without seeming like an asshole? He [I]modestly[/I] demands on Twitter everyone stop saying he was right all along— so he plants the idea he was right all along.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;50503350]"[b]Before[/b] I extend my sympathies, let me just point out how CORRECT I was about the shooter's beliefs. Aren't I smart guys? But seriously, I don't want your accolades, I just want us to finally be smart!"
You fucking cunt, dude.[/QUOTE]
he already made a couple tweets with sympathies before that one
Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media]
[QUOTE=Davoc;50503368]he already made a couple tweets with sympathies before that one[/QUOTE]
That was probably made by not him.
Beforehand we was whining about the disabled reporter ad already playing
Is there any word on when we'll get an official statement from law enforcement, FBI, etc.
Just woke up and heard this mentioned on an E3 Twitch stream, and holy shit.
I couldn't imagine waking up to worse news.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503377]Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media][/QUOTE]
Hindsight is 20/20
Only americans should have an opinion on this.
These Europeans are trying to get into our business man
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They couldn't charge him with anything back then, and unfortunately this tragedy doesn't change that fact.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503377]Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media][/QUOTE]
At this point, the response to terrorism is brushing up heavily against potential 'pre-crime' arguments.
"If only we had been tougher on him - if only we had locked him up for being potentially dangerous this never would have happened!"
It's difficult to know where to draw the line. We could go full trump, and then this sort of thing might get reduced, but at what costs?
Allegedly the shooter had regularly beaten his ex-wife.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-wife-of-suspected-orlando-shooter-he-beat-me/2016/06/12/8a1963b4-30b8-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?postshare=7921465748801168[/url]
[quote]The ex-wife of the 29-year-old man suspected of killing 50 people in a Orlando nightclub early Sunday said that he was violent and mentally unstable and beat her repeatedly while they were married.
The ex-wife said she met Omar Mateen online about eight years ago and decided to move to Florida and marry him.
At first, the marriage was normal, she said, but then he became abusive.
“He was not a stable person,” said the ex-wife, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she feared for her safety in the wake of the mass shooting. “He beat me. He would just come home and start beating me up because the laundry wasn’t finished or something like that.”[/quote]
[QUOTE=Vericool;50503404]Only americans should have an opinion on this.
These Europeans are trying to get into our business man[/QUOTE]
u wot m8
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503377]Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media][/QUOTE]
Can you really blame them for not arresting the guy because they didn't have substantial evidence that he was a terrorist?
After hearing that the FBI interviewed him twice and did not arrest him; good. They did their job.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503377]Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media][/QUOTE]
That press conference doesn't mean anything. So what they knew about him. Hes an American citizen and has equal rights as any other person. How can people criticize the police for not doing anything then when they're fighting everything the police tries to do now.
What do you want: freedoms or a proactive intervening government.
[QUOTE=Thlis;50503418]Allegedly the shooter had regularly beaten his ex-wife.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-wife-of-suspected-orlando-shooter-he-beat-me/2016/06/12/8a1963b4-30b8-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?postshare=7921465748801168[/url][/QUOTE]
This is informative. If he was mentally unstable and abusive, he'd definitely be persuaded more easily by ISIS propoganda
[QUOTE=Killuah;50503377]Oh come ON
[media]https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/742073941246631936[/media][/QUOTE]
That wording in the Tweet is so god damn click-baity. No, they didn't become aware of the shooting that just happened in 2013. They became aware of the suspect's suspicious activities. There's a huge fucking difference.
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