• 10k worth of SNES cartridges for preservation lost in post
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[QUOTE=Binladen34;51824707] Or it got eaten by a bulk conveyor, and is probably being pieced back together by re-wrap.[/QUOTE] I work at UPS and this shit happens so often it's insane, I don't know why I don't hear people constantly complaining that they didn't receive something, or they did and it's all fucked up. Our conveyors will destroy a package, spread it's contents all over the floor and sometimes management is too scared to announce destructions as it means our equipment is shit and needs to be replaced so they just call it a loss and say it magically disappeared.
Slightly related, Russian postal service once lost an expensive sweater that a guy bought from an on-line store, and when he went to the post office to do something about it, the post lady was wearing the sweater.
This isn't news. Someone tried to save a few dollars by not insuring for the full amount and lost. He should have forked over for the proper insurance and put a concrete value on it ahead of time. Combine proper insurance with the electronic sign on delivery, and Restricted Delivery and he would have been fine. There's no way that he'll get anything beyond the 1,000 euro's it was insured for, it doesn't matter after the fact if you try and prove it was actually worth 7,000-1,0000 euro through your own calculations. I've never had one problem with USPS and I ship hundreds of dollars of stuff a week to customers.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;51823952]A bunch of USPS people in Southern California, including two in my own city, got fired for stealing shit a few months ago :v:[/QUOTE] Was that by any chance the Richmond sorting facility? I've heard that's a major spot where USPS packages mysteriously disappear on a regular basis. On topic, that does suck for the people shipping those games. Hopefully the package will eventually be recovered. Personally I've sent and received hundreds of items with USPS and I've only had one major issue with them. A few months ago I sold a kit of RAM to a guy in CA, and somehow USPS managed to send it over to London in a bin of military packages. Thankfully they did ship it back and it found its way to the buyer. Otherwise I really have no complaints with them, and the people at my local post office were extremely helpful with sorting the issue out.
are the postal services that unreliable in the us? cant imagine shit like this happening in finland
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51825941]are the postal services that unreliable in the us? cant imagine shit like this happening in finland[/QUOTE] No. Overall USPS works fantastically. They ship 509 million packages and pieces of mail every day, which is 47% of the entire global mail volume.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;51825666]I work at UPS and this shit happens so often it's insane, I don't know why I don't hear people constantly complaining that they didn't receive something, or they did and it's all fucked up. Our conveyors will destroy a package, spread it's contents all over the floor and sometimes management is too scared to announce destructions as it means our equipment is shit and needs to be replaced so they just call it a loss and say it magically disappeared.[/QUOTE] I guess I know what possibly happened to a package I never got last Christmas. That's shitty.
[QUOTE=The Duke;51824036]By the way, for those that didn't read the article, Byuu isn't just some amateur archivist, he is the creator of the most accurate SNES emulator created: Higan.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make him an expert archivist though?
[QUOTE=Ajacks;51825954]No. Overall USPS works fantastically. They ship 509 million packages and pieces of mail every day, which is 47% of the entire global mail volume.[/QUOTE] well that's good doesn't take a lot to ruin an image tho
[QUOTE=The Duke;51824036]By the way, for those that didn't read the article, Byuu isn't just some amateur archivist, he is the creator of the most accurate SNES emulator created: Higan.[/QUOTE] Oh fuck, it's Byuu that's affected by this? Shit man, he's an absolute legend for his work on BSNES (the SNES emulator part of Higan).
[QUOTE=drake90001;51826060]That doesn't make him an expert archivist though?[/QUOTE] He archived most if not all of the US games for SNES.
Don't you guys have postal insurance down there?
[QUOTE=chernisreal?;51826292]Don't you guys have postal insurance down there?[/QUOTE] The guy only insured it for 1000 euros because he "didn't think anything would happen".
[QUOTE=Ajacks;51826317]The guy only insured it for 1000 euros because he "didn't think anything would happen".[/QUOTE] He took a gamble and lost.. isn't this exactly how insurance is marketed ? :p
[QUOTE=chernisreal?;51826292]Don't you guys have postal insurance down there?[/QUOTE] We don't handle anything with a declared value over $100 for liability reasons.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51825941]are the postal services that unreliable in the us? cant imagine shit like this happening in finland[/QUOTE] nah, it just serves so many packages that a couple are bound to get mangled or go missing. if they fuck up a million a day that's still a 99.998% success rate
[QUOTE=Binladen34;51826814]We don't handle anything with a declared value over $100 for liability reasons.[/QUOTE] Who is we? USPS registered mail can insure up to a value of $50,000.
USPS stole my fucking earbud rubber tips.
Update: USPS sent him the shipping label, with nothing else, claiming a machine "ate it". [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/5uckkd/100_snes_pal_game_shipment_update_package_was/[/url]
[QUOTE=GhostSonic;51829657]Update: USPS sent him the shipping label, with nothing else, claiming a machine "ate it". [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/5uckkd/100_snes_pal_game_shipment_update_package_was/[/url][/QUOTE] That is upsetting
[QUOTE]The sender had insurance, but only for its travel to the US. [/QUOTE] Honestly, I can't understand the thought process that goes on when you decide not to insure such a package. Not saying it's his fault, but damn that's a dumb decision. I have insured things of much lesser worth.
[QUOTE=meek;51829806]Honestly, I can't understand the thought process that goes on when you decide not to insure such a package. Not saying it's his fault, but damn that's a dumb decision. I have insured things of much lesser worth.[/QUOTE] He posted in the thread that it was because he would get in trouble with his government for having something of that value because he's on government assistance.
[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51829999]He posted in the thread that it was because he would get in trouble with his government for having something of that value because he's on government assistance.[/QUOTE] Even more irresponsible then. If the cartridges are worth that much, it's definitely worth bothering a friend to do the paperwork for you and hold the cartridges. [editline]16th February 2017[/editline] I mean I get that they insured for most of the trip, but with stuff like this you just can't take chances. I've lost so much mail, and Murphy's law the time you don't insure something expensive is the time shit's gonna go down.
[QUOTE=GhostSonic;51829657]Update: USPS sent him the shipping label, with nothing else, claiming a machine "ate it".[/QUOTE] I can smell the bullshit from inside my house, and it's smelling so strong that I'm going to need a mask. As said by another person in that thread, it wouldn't be possible for the box to still be there if there's not a single game left over. There has to have been at least one out of the hundred there that survived, even if there was some damage. Even if you dropped the bastard from fifty feet and ran it over with a forklift, there would still easily be at least ten cartridges that looked intact. Can anyone in the packaging industry verify this? Is there a machine that would somehow act as a trash compactor leaving nothing but scrap there for any reason at all, or is the bullshit going to start getting worse and worse as time goes on?
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;51830123]I can smell the bullshit from inside my house, and it's smelling so strong that I'm going to need a mask. As said by another person in that thread, it wouldn't be possible for the box to still be there if there's not a single game left over. There has to have been at least one out of the hundred there that survived, even if there was some damage. Even if you dropped the bastard from fifty feet and ran it over with a forklift, there would still easily be at least ten cartridges that looked intact. Can anyone in the packaging industry verify this? Is there a machine that would somehow act as a trash compactor leaving nothing but scrap there for any reason at all, or is the bullshit going to start getting worse and worse as time goes on?[/QUOTE] If it got stuck between the rollers, yeah little plastique shards everywhere. We're talking rollers with force capable of a human into thin red paste.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;51830172]If it got stuck between the rollers, yeah little plastique shards everywhere. We're talking rollers with force capable of a human into thin red paste.[/QUOTE] Okay, so the cardboard box gets caught in the rollers. Assuming it swallows the box entirely and isn't stopped before it's completely pulverized into a black hole, it might eat some of the games with it. But those cartridges that survived, which there would be some, start spilling out all over the place. Unless something leaves a significant gap inbetween the rollers which SOMEHOW went un-noticed by maintenance, there would still be some left over. Lets assume worst case scenario happens, and everything gets devoured in the blink of an eye. Wouldn't there be shards of plastic and metal embedded throughout the entirety of it, along with inside the label leaving it completely perforated and illegible? The second picture in the Reddit thread mentioned show the box, completely intact minus a few tear marks that could be consistent with it being caught, but once again. The label is miraculously intact. Plus the absent shards of plastic. Assume they painstakingly picked out the plastic-metal hybrid shards out of everything, and there'd still be cut marks and holes in it where they either sliced the cardboard or even completely penetrated it. I'm heavily suspecting theft. A quick glance at Ebay shows SNES games go for roughly 30$~ each. And this is assuming they don't take all the steps to maximize their profits with going through the proper channels of verifying the integrity of the cartridges with proof.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;51830203]Okay, so the cardboard box gets caught in the rollers. Assuming it swallows the box entirely and isn't stopped before it's completely pulverized into a black hole, it might eat some of the games with it. But those cartridges that survived, which there would be some, start spilling out all over the place. Unless something leaves a significant gap inbetween the rollers which SOMEHOW went un-noticed by maintenance, there would still be some left over. Lets assume worst case scenario happens, and everything gets devoured in the blink of an eye. Wouldn't there be shards of plastic and metal embedded throughout the entirety of it, along with inside the label leaving it completely perforated and illegible? The second picture in the Reddit thread mentioned show the box, completely intact minus a few tear marks that could be consistent with it being caught, but once again. The label is miraculously intact. Plus the absent shards of plastic. Assume they painstakingly picked out the plastic-metal hybrid shards out of everything, and there'd still be cut marks and holes in it where they either sliced the cardboard or even completely penetrated it. I'm heavily suspecting theft. A quick glance at Ebay shows SNES games go for roughly 30$~ each. And this is assuming they don't take all the steps to maximize their profits with going through the proper channels of verifying the integrity of the cartridges with proof.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that theft isn't out of the equation.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;51830123]I can smell the bullshit from inside my house, and it's smelling so strong that I'm going to need a mask. As said by another person in that thread, it wouldn't be possible for the box to still be there if there's not a single game left over. There has to have been at least one out of the hundred there that survived, even if there was some damage. Even if you dropped the bastard from fifty feet and ran it over with a forklift, there would still easily be at least ten cartridges that looked intact. Can anyone in the packaging industry verify this? Is there a machine that would somehow act as a trash compactor leaving nothing but scrap there for any reason at all, or is the bullshit going to start getting worse and worse as time goes on?[/QUOTE] the box was wrapped in paper, the paper came off at some point and now the box has no label. most likely it got jammed in a conveyor and tore slightly, and over the next 2 or 3 days it just got continually worse until it eventually lost it's paper wrapper.
[QUOTE=GhostSonic;51829657]Update: USPS sent him the shipping label, with nothing else, claiming a machine "ate it". [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/5uckkd/100_snes_pal_game_shipment_update_package_was/[/url][/QUOTE] This is really fucked up, hope this is all resolved soon.
[QUOTE=JerryAnderson;51830123]I can smell the bullshit from inside my house, and it's smelling so strong that I'm going to need a mask. As said by another person in that thread, it wouldn't be possible for the box to still be there if there's not a single game left over. There has to have been at least one out of the hundred there that survived, even if there was some damage. Even if you dropped the bastard from fifty feet and ran it over with a forklift, there would still easily be at least ten cartridges that looked intact. Can anyone in the packaging industry verify this? Is there a machine that would somehow act as a trash compactor leaving nothing but scrap there for any reason at all, or is the bullshit going to start getting worse and worse as time goes on?[/QUOTE] At UPS it would be absolutely impossible. It could get damaged, you might have some broken ones, but I work in the largest UPS facility in NA and I have not seen a single machine in our airport that could obliterate a package into nothingness. There would be SOMETHING left. I've got horror stories about shit being destroyed and broken but something like SNES cartridges isn't going to get ground into dust and no one noticed. I can't imagine USPS facilities are too different. Like I said before, it probably got ripped open and the retapers or reboxers were too lazy to do their job, or management said "fuck it we ain't got no losses here" and just sent the shit though.
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