apparently the roundhouse is on fire as well as the electric ballroom in camden, can anyone confirm?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31613518]When will they send in the army?[/QUOTE]
Its sounds like they need fire engines more than the military.
If this carries on any longer the army will probably be called in. The sight of soldiers will no doubt be enough to send the looter home.
[QUOTE=Jsm;31613457]Clip from the Sky news reporter that was in Clapham before the broadcast team turned up it seems.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXcI-NL3Tro&feature=share[/media][/QUOTE]
I have to commend this guy for doing his job despite the fact that one of those people could have gotten angry at him and lashed out.
I just feel so sad for the owners of these shops, as well as the people who live there.
I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all? I also feel sad for shop owners who have owned shops in London for years only to get destroyed by the scum of our generation.... very sad.
I can't help but think even just an army presence in the area would help things. A lady on the bbc just said that she is watching police and they have no idea what to do. I hope this shit gets sorted quickly.
I'm scared and i live up north :/
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all?[/QUOTE]
All over London, this is much more widespread than the Student riots.
[QUOTE=Mixed Sources;31613544]apparently the roundhouse is on fire as well as the electric ballroom in camden, can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]
Now I'm angry, I fucking love Camden
[QUOTE=Jsm;31613457]Clip from the Sky news reporter that was in Clapham before the broadcast team turned up it seems.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXcI-NL3Tro&feature=share[/media][/QUOTE]
`Taking my taxes back` is such a shitty excuse for this. Yes, taxes might be high for you, but it doesn't give you the right to steal things, vandalize shops and terrorize neighbourhoods!
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all?[/QUOTE]
Tuition fees was an event which everyone saw coming, the police had time to plan for it and knew where everyone would be
With this they have no idea where people are going to loot next, it's happening everywhere across London and there was no chance to plan for it
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all?[/QUOTE]
Lies spread via twitter and facebook have caused a large amount to go to wrong locations
Meanwhile, Scotland is utterly peaceful. That is the most shocking news.
[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;31613555]I have to commend this guy for doing his job despite the fact that one of those people could have gotten angry at him and lashed out.[/QUOTE]
I can't agree more, he said when he was on TV that he had to lie for his own safety. I understand what he meant now.
Although look at his other videos, he seems to be a good reporter.
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all?[/QUOTE]
They got so bollocked over those riots that they're probably going to be very slow on the retaliation, which is shit.
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago. Where are they all? I also feel sad for shop owners who have owned shops in London for years only to get destroyed by the scum of our generation.... very sad.
I can't help but think even just an army presence in the area would help things. A lady on the bbc just said that she is watching police and they have no idea what to do. I hope this shit gets sorted quickly.[/QUOTE]
I think its because the student protests were all in one place. These are scattered around london :/
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;31613546]Its sounds like they need fire engines more than the military.
If this carries on any longer the army will probably be called in. The sight of soldiers will no doubt be enough to send the looter home.[/QUOTE]
The military have fire engines (They have covered for the fire brigade when they were on strike years ago), they could be used for that. I am sure they could put out fires and protect themselves.
[QUOTE=M24;31613566]I'm quite confused, the police presence seems like nothing compared to the presence of police at the student riots a few months ago.[/QUOTE]
This is over such a larger area rather than just once place.
Why not bring in the Green Goddesses to help the fire crews??
They won't send in the army because that implies that the police aren't up to the job. Even though that may be true, it's not the message those in power want to give.
On a sidenote, 5 minutes walk from my house - I can hear the sirens/shouting:
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Everyone rioting is a massive cunt.
We don't even know what happened with the man who got shot yet, whether it was justified or not.
I was watching the news earlier, and they were talking to people from the communities where the rioting is taking place. One woman was saying it was a result of institutionalised racism in the police, and general poverty. The police shot the man because, from what we've been told so far, the man [b]had a fucking gun.[/b]
There may be problems with institutionalised racism, but until we know more we can't put the shooting down to that. Someone on facebook put "they were regular working class people from the community. People are showing the police that decades of police brutality and institutional racism towards the ethnic communitieswon't be tolerated, that they won't stand for police oppression or community members being murdered."
That would be the reason for the peaceful protests which preceded the rioting - but the rioting is a load of cunts smashing stuff, and calling up their cunt friends to join in. I haven't been keeping up with this - do we know if people have died as a result of the rioting? I know a block of flats was set alight after someone burnt down the carpet shop underneath.
Somewhere call Chalkfarm in the North of London now has looting happening there.
I was on Facebook this evening and was unfortunate to enough to read another ridiculous rant by a former class mate who is now a college student "revolutionist" extraordinaire (I.e pretentious idiot)
[quote]Is rioting the correct way to express your discontent?
"Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?
"Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you."
I looked around. A dozen TV crews and newspaper reporters interviewing the young men everywhere"
The Riot is the Voice of the Unheard[/quote]
I pondered for a moment as to why I wouldn't respond to that comment, then realized it was not worth my time.
Apparently its moved to somewhere called Chalkfarm. I have never heard of that so someone with a better understanding of the geography of London can say where that is.
BBC are also saying that they can't move satellite trucks around quick enough to report this so they are basically sending reporters with mobile phones.
[QUOTE=dirty harry;31613661]Everyone rioting is a massive cunt.
We don't even know what happened with the man who got shot yet, whether it was justified or not.
I was watching the news earlier, and they were talking to people from the communities where the rioting is taking place. One woman was saying it was a result of institutionalised racism in the police, and general poverty. The police shot the man because, from what we've been told so far, the man [b]had a fucking gun.[/b]
There may be problems with institutionalised racism, but until we know more we can't put the shooting down to that.
Someone on facebook put "they were regular working class people from the community. People are showing the police that decades of police brutality and institutional racism towards the ethnic communitieswon't be tolerated, that they won't stand for police oppression or community members being murdered."
That would be the reason for the peaceful protests which preceded the rioting - but the rioting is a load of cunts smashing stuff, and calling up their cunt friends to join in.
I haven't been keeping up with this - do we know if people have died as a result of the rioting? I know a block of flats was set alight after someone burnt down the carpet shop underneath.[/QUOTE]
This is no longer about that guy who got shot, people saw the opportunity to loot and loot they are.
Stupid looters, like in the video when the women says shes getting her tax back the looting shes doing is gunna be fixed by her taxes.
These riots make me angry.
Whether or not to send in the army will certainly be on the table at the COBRA meeting tomorrow morning so we'll have to see what happens tomorrow
[QUOTE=Lhuth;31613657]They won't send in the army because that implies that the police aren't up to the job. Even though that may be true, it's not the message those in power want to give.
On a sidenote, 5 minutes walk from my house - I can hear the sirens/shouting:
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The reputation of the police doesn't mean shit when London is burning down.
If the riots hit Bournemouth, I'm gonna wait outside my house with a cricket bat and threaten looters
"Getting my taxes back"
Yes well done, getting taxes back from a privately owned company.
what the fuck is going on london. seriously.
absolute degenerates looting and setting places on fire. we'll be lucky if no one is killed overnight.
we aren't fucking greece or a middle eastern dictatorship, what are these fucking dicks rioting for.
fucking deport them.
or hang them. either way.
[QUOTE=Lhuth;31613657]They won't send in the army because that implies that the police aren't up to the job. Even though that may be true, it's not the message those in power want to give.
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Unfortunately they can't even make it look like they are just helping, calling in the army is as you say basically saying "we are shit HELP!!"
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