Teenage Girl Shot And Killed In Texas Because Of Stand Your Ground Law - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ZF911;36728732]I care more about my crappy $20 craigslist TV than the safety of some pathetic criminal.[/QUOTE] Well then you should probably reconsider calling other people pathetic

[QUOTE=sdwise;36728810]And I will question it in prison, and when I'm set free, and when I land back in prison, and for the rest of my life or until things change. Ever read MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail? Good read.[/QUOTE] Haha uhh you don't go free on murder 1. Stop comparing yourself to Martin Luther King Jr. you crazy lunatic. MLK Jr. was a pacifist.

Everyone should just drop this thread and go to sleep, because if anyone gives any attention to Lankist then this thread will be on page 124 when I wake up in 5 hours.

You're telling me to cite cases where unarmed/non-hostile intruders were killed and the shooter was not convicted of murder. I'm telling you to cite the opposite. Why exactly do you get to pull the "I'm right prove me wrong," when you're telling me not to?

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36728836]Everyone should just drop this thread and go to sleep, because if anyone gives any attention to Lankist then this thread will be on page 124 when I wake up in 5 hours.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the input really adding to the discussion

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728816] Stop comparing yourself to Martin Luther King Jr. you crazy lunatic.[/QUOTE] Can you go one thread without calling people lunatics?

[QUOTE=ZF911;36728839]You're telling me to cite cases where unarmed/non-hostile intruders were killed and the shooter was not convicted of murder. I'm telling you to cite the opposite. Why exactly do you get to pull the "I'm right prove me wrong," when you're telling me not to?[/QUOTE] The burden of proof is on you, you can't just tell the opposition to go look up evidence to support your case, that's your job.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728816]Haha uhh you don't go free on murder 1.[/QUOTE] Another assumption? Or just general stupidity. There are lot's of laws that are illegitimate, my friend. Self Defense is near the bottom of the list of "Things I'll Probably Go To Prison For."

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728799] That is when life takes precedence. That's why self defense is so heavily scrutinized. You need to be able to prove you had no other recourse to protect your own life, and that you were in imminent and immediate peril. Not "shoot criminals because my grandma!" bullshit.[/QUOTE] If the person is attacking me in the street or is in my house with unknown intentions the I'd say killing them should (and in some places is) be a valid course of action.

[QUOTE=ZF911;36728839]You're telling me to cite cases where unarmed/non-hostile intruders were killed and the shooter was not convicted of murder. I'm telling you to cite the opposite.[/QUOTE] I already cited cases. You've cited none. Cite yours. Saying "no you" does you no favors. You've proven nothing and you've talked out of your ass for hours, flagrantly denying Supreme Court precedence because "well I heard a story about a guy" bullshit. No. You want to say Supreme Court precedence is wrong? You gotta cite shit. All I need to cite is the precedence.

[QUOTE=ZF911;36728839]You're telling me to cite cases where unarmed/non-hostile intruders were killed and the shooter was not convicted of murder. I'm telling you to cite the opposite. Why exactly do you get to pull the "I'm right prove me wrong," when you're telling me not to?[/QUOTE] "I can't be arsed/don't know of any evidence so I'm going to ask you to find evidence to the contrary instead". It doesn't work like that unfortunately

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36728856]If the person is attacking me in the street or is in my house with unknown intentions the I'd say killing them should (and in some places is) be a valid course of action.[/QUOTE] That's fine. The law disagrees. It has a much more stringent definition of justifiable self defense. You can think it's valid all you want. You can think that in court.

[QUOTE=James*;36728844]Thanks for the input really adding to the discussion[/QUOTE] There hasn't been a discussion since page whatever. It turned into pointless cock slapping after the first pages. In other words, just another thread shit up by Lankist and his massive ego. I swear, this happens every time there is a news article about someone shooting someone.

Say I'm a homeless person. I need a shelter. After all, having a shelter to dwell in is a human right, true? So, I can break into someone's house, stab the owner to dead, and claim his house for me, in order to obtain shelter and fulfill my basic human rights. It's justified because I do it in the name of human rights. They guarantee me shelter, I obtain it. Or the other way around, some hobo tries to move into my house, and it's my right to protect my posesions, so I can stab him and kill him. Totally justified. Mission acomplished. That's what basically sdwise's laws would imply.

You've cited cases telling me I'm wrong, when his cases have absolutely nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make.

[QUOTE=sdwise;36728810]And I will question it in prison, and when I'm set free, and when I land back in prison, and for the rest of my life or until things change. Ever read MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail? Good read.[/QUOTE] Keep stroking that ego bro. But I don't think anyone will swallow.

[QUOTE=ZF911;36728882]You've cited cases telling me I'm wrong, when his cases have absolutely nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make.[/QUOTE] Your point is wholly unsubstantiated. I don't need to disprove anything because you've proven nothing to begin with. Come back when you have references. Until then, we're done.

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36728875]There hasn't been a discussion since page whatever. It turned into pointless cock slapping after the first pages. In other words, just another thread shit up by Lankist and his massive ego. I swear, this happens every time there is a news article about someone shooting someone.[/QUOTE] If you have nothing to contribute, leave. Nobody here cares about how much you don't like me.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728874]That's fine. The law disagrees. It has a much more stringent definition of justifiable self defense. You can think it's valid all you want. You can think that in court.[/QUOTE] Actually I do believe the law would agree with me on that one, according to the UK's recent self defence laws.

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36728875]There hasn't been a discussion since page whatever. It turned into pointless cock slapping after the first pages. In other words, just another thread shit up by Lankist and his massive ego. I swear, this happens every time there is a news article about someone shooting someone.[/QUOTE] Boo fucking hoo. If you don't like the thread, go piss off, nobody's forcing you to read it.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36728899]Actually I do believe the law would agree with me on that one, according to the UK's recent self defence laws.[/QUOTE] We're talking about U.S. law. And UK self defense law tends to be a hell of a lot more strict. Go back a few pages and read one of the dozen times I posted an explanation of the criteria regarding self defense as established by the Supreme Court of the United States. I don't give a shit how they do things in your country, we're talking about Texas, which is in the U.S. FYI.

[QUOTE=Florence;36728891]Keep stroking that ego bro. But I don't think anyone will swallow.[/QUOTE] It's not about Ego. It's about whats right. You want to bend over backwards for the state, thats your business. I prefer to call a spade a spade, and tyranny tyranny wherever I see it.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728916]We're talking about U.S. law. And UK self defense law tends to be a hell of a lot more strict. Go back a few pages and read one of the dozen times I posted an explanation of the criteria regarding self defense as established by the Supreme Court of the United States. I don't give a shit how they do things in your country, we're talking about Texas, which is in the U.S. FYI.[/QUOTE] I thought the US self defence laws were fairly lax and allowed for people shooting home intruders and in certain states, the shooting of people assaulting you

[QUOTE=James*;36728733]Going for the former personally[/QUOTE] :(

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36728937]I thought the US self defence laws were fairly lax and allowed for people shooting home intruders and in certain states, the shooting of people assaulting you[/QUOTE] I'm not responding to you further until you go back and read one of the multitude of times I referenced the two primary criteria for self defense. I simply cannot keep repeating that. It's getting old. Go back a few pages. I posted it at least once every two pages when someone like you joined the discussion and repeated the same things that had already been addressed.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36728899]Actually I do believe the law would agree with me on that one, according to the UK's recent self defence laws.[/QUOTE] Erm you can't kill someone just for being in your house dude

[QUOTE=sdwise;36728936]It's not about Ego. It's about whats right. You want to bend over backwards for the state, thats your business. I prefer to call a spade a spade, and tyranny tyranny wherever I see it.[/QUOTE] Call a spade a spade? like how you compared yourself to martin luther king jr because you said you want to kill people? holy god you are delusional.

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36728836]Everyone should just drop this thread and go to sleep, because if anyone gives any attention to Lankist then this thread will be on page 124 when I wake up in 5 hours.[/QUOTE] shouldn't you be out physically assaulting kids or something

[QUOTE=James*;36728974]Erm you can't kill someone just for being in your house dude[/QUOTE] UK has imperfect self defense laws too, as a note.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36728977]Call a spade a spade? like how you compared yourself to martin luther king jr because you said you want to kill people? holy god you are delusional.[/QUOTE] Wow. You are a fucking lie factory. Like MSNBC, Fox News level lie factory. Fuck you and your stupid ass assumptions, I don't have to deal with spitfucks like you taking my words out of context. I'm out. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]