Teenage Girl Shot And Killed In Texas Because Of Stand Your Ground Law - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ZF911;36741113]Yes I deleted the part about corpses because I realized how stupid it was. I also apologized for being stupid and not thinking things out before I posted them. I think I'm gonna leave the thread now before it escalates again.[/QUOTE] I respect you for being able to do that. Very few people here know how to concede. Myself included, save for rarer instances (usually medical or scientific, when I'm plain wrong and someone more qualified tells me so.)

[QUOTE=Ardosos;36741065]Okay, then what's the name of the fallacy where someone mistakenly labels an argument as a fallacy because they can't think of a real counter-argument?[/QUOTE] hey look, another poster that came out of nowhere who is not contributing and only posted to call someone out. please go away.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;36741162]hey look, another poster that came out of nowhere who is not contributing and only posted to call someone out. please go away.[/QUOTE] I think he was actually contributing by refuting. At the very least it wasn't as blatant as the other guy.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;36741184]I think he was actually contributing by refuting. At the very least it wasn't as blatant as the other guy.[/QUOTE] Complaining about the use of logical fallacies as a rhetorical device is like complaining that an author uses the word "said" too much. It accomplishes nothing. It's a shallow, cosmetic comment which contributes nothing. Fallacies have always been used as devices by which to undermine an argument. Think things through more carefully if you don't want to be called on them.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;36741092] Wow you literally follow me around just to repeat this constantly. It's... I'm not really sure what it is. Just kind of amazed at the moment.[/QUOTE] It's kind of naughty that you have to make up such [I]evil slandeer [/I]in some kind of rush to get a reply out there. Trying to make me look like some kind of creepy FlakAttack stalker-psycho doesn't work when I can't remember replying to you in the past half year, but I can see this is gonna turn into some big ol' gay WWE poster smackdown or something, and I'd rather just watch the heated discussion over why people should or shouldn't be killed for things below

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;36741212]It's kind of naughty that you have to make up such [I]evil slandeer [/I]in some kind of rush to get a reply out there. Trying to make me look like some kind of creepy FlakAttack stalker-psycho doesn't work when I can't remember replying to you in the past half year, but I can see this is gonna turn into some big ol' gay WWE poster smackdown or something, and I'd rather just watch the heated discussion over why people should or shouldn't be killed for things below[/QUOTE] That's cool. It's just that you actually have posted in at least 2 threads specifically about me while I was there, when previously you weren't posting in that thread at all. Granted, I too remember it being a long time ago, but it comes off as strange. Also Lankist, while I'm off topic, I have to say that title is pretty lame. Even if I think your posts are retarded, there is no way in hell I'd ever get butthurt enough to spend $10 on a title. *edit: retarded is too strong a word. I can see where you're coming from, you're just too emotional about it Gonna tone the rhetoric down big time here. I think people have a right to defend what is theirs. I think they should avoid taking lives, but not at the risk of their life (as long as the practice is in defence of the self or others). I also think thieves are well aware of the risks of their behaviour and going to lengths to protect them is silly.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;36741308]Also Lankist, I have to say that title is pretty lame. Even if I think your posts are retarded, there is no way in hell I'd ever get butthurt enough to spend $10 on a title..[/QUOTE] I'm less concerned with the money (because it inflates my ego) and more concerned with the fact that they spent the money on such a lame jab. Gay Mexican would have been better, personally. But that's just me. What do I know about my own insecurities?

Why is buying titles for others even allowed? Hilarious as it can be, it's stupid as fuck.

she was a human beng and derervd to live

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36741478]Why is buying titles for others even allowed? Hilarious as it can be, it's stupid as fuck.[/QUOTE] because it's neat and it's a way for mods to receive compensation for what they do

[QUOTE=Dori;36741500]because it's neat and it's a way for mods to receive compensation for what they do[/QUOTE] Should still be up to the user to decide to take a title orn ot, otherwise you end up with Gmod4ever kind of crap happening.

[QUOTE=Splut;36741494]she was a human beng and derervd to live[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Splut;36741523]he was a human beng and deservd to live[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Splut;36741515]he was a human beng and deservd to live[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Splut;36741528]they an human bengs and deservd to live[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Splut;36741504]dis is animal cruetie how can they merder an defenslef animal like that[/QUOTE] rofl

Troll if you didn't notice

[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;36741901]Troll if you didn't notice[/QUOTE] we know we just think it's funny

I hope he made good use of her corpse before it went cold

[QUOTE=Lankist;36738455]Hahaha uhhhhhhh no. [url]http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Supremacy+Clause[/url] Federal law overrules state law on all levels and in all cases.[/QUOTE] The US Federal Courts do not have unlimited criminal jurisdiction, especially involving matters that occur within the border's of a state unless involving federal property or interstate commerce! So unless you want to suggest my house is on Federal Property, this constant citation of what federal courts say and what federal law is is made completely irrelavent by the utter lack of jurisdiction the Federal Courts have.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;36743725]The US Federal Courts do not have unlimited criminal jurisdiction, especially involving matters that occur within the border's of a state unless involving federal property or interstate commerce! So unless you want to suggest my house is on Federal Property, this constant citation of what federal courts say and what federal law is is made completely irrelavent by the utter lack of jurisdiction the Federal Courts have.[/QUOTE] Your house abides by federal law before it abides by state law. [editline]12th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;36743725]the utter lack of jurisdiction the Federal Courts have.[/QUOTE] hahaha uhhhhhhh that's like saying a U.S. Marshall doesn't have jurisdiction within state borders. The United States of America is their jurisdiction. Jesus Christ you have no idea how this country works, do you? Read the fucking Constitution. States aren't sovereign.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36741552]Should still be up to the user to decide to take a title orn ot, otherwise you end up with Gmod4ever kind of crap happening.[/QUOTE] When I first saw Gmod4ever's title my immediate thought was "well shit I thought I had that userscript installed" my next thought was "alright there needs to be some fucking regulation on titles"

-snipped due to incompetence-

[QUOTE=Killer900;36716635]Oh please, she knew what she was getting into, she knew the risks, it's her own damn fault and frankly we're better off as a society without people like her breaking into other people's homes intent on stealing from them. And it isn't like she was poor or anything, she had no excuse, good riddance. [IMG]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/237727/slide_237727_1205393_free.jpg[/IMG] Case in point[/QUOTE] Yes this picture proves she deserves to die. Thanks killer9000, you're the paragon of humanity.

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;36744216]You know, if someone busted into my house, I'd have done the same thing.[/QUOTE] did you not read the article [editline]1[/editline] or the second page of this thread where [url=http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/09/4088381/teen-shot-to-death-in-robbery.html]this[/url] article was posted

[QUOTE=Dori;36745046]did you not read the article [editline]1[/editline] or the second page of this thread where [url=http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/09/4088381/teen-shot-to-death-in-robbery.html]this[/url] article was posted[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kartoffel;36744216]-snipped due to incompetence-[/QUOTE] Sorry, I did not. :(

She broke into someones house. She got shot. Her fault completely.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36740677]You're wrong. Trained police have roughly 20% accuracy when they [I]aren't[/I] being physically confronted. Even better [B]trained soldiers have even lower accuracy[/B]. You wouldn't hit a god damn thing. And you're insane. Stop it. Stop this right now. You aren't going to win this one no matter how hard you defend it.[/QUOTE] Uh, I'm fairly certain that's because they like to fire thousands of rounds in suppressive fire.

[QUOTE=ZF911;36740650]Actually I use guns, and know how to aim with them. I'm sure from a few feet away in my basement I wouldn't miss.[/QUOTE] I'm just going to say this from experience, chances are, you're going to try to act more ~~~HARDCORE~~~ over a computer, which you're doing right now, your mindset will change under pressure, more so with a weapon and someone you don't know near you who could potentially hurt you.

I don't know what I would have done in this situation but I'd like to believe I'd shoot her in the legs. Scaring everybody else off with the sound, not killing her, and just leaving her there in excruciating pain until the police and paramedics come to help her. Nobody dies, she learns a DAMN GOOD LESSON, and will possibly never even think about trying it again if she has screwed up legs the rest of her life.

Eh...I agree that someone should be able to defend his or her life and their familie's life with deadly force in their own property, but this could have gone smoother.

[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;36748824]I don't know what I would have done in this situation but I'd like to believe I'd shoot her in the legs. Scaring everybody else off with the sound, not killing her, and just leaving her there in excruciating pain until the police and paramedics come to help her. Nobody dies, she learns a DAMN GOOD LESSON, and will possibly never even think about trying it again if she has screwed up legs the rest of her life.[/QUOTE] You do realize that even if you somehow had the extreme luck to hit her leg that you can still easily kill a person like that by hitting the major artery that runs through the leg? You have quite the fantasy going on.

[QUOTE=Valnar;36748851]You do realize that even if you somehow had the extreme luck to hit her leg that you can still easily kill a person like that by hitting the major artery that runs through the leg? You have quite the fantasy going on.[/QUOTE] Better than aiming to kill.

[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;36748824]Scaring everybody else off with the sound, not killing her, and just leaving her there in excruciating pain until the police and paramedics come to help her. Nobody dies, she learns a DAMN GOOD LESSON, and will possibly never even think about trying it again if she has screwed up legs the rest of her life.[/QUOTE] Average 911 response time is usually around 3 - 4 minutes, depending on how close you live to the respective stations. That's not long at all for serious bleeding to occur, coupled with the fact that she may need to have surgery to have the bullet removed from her leg which is a pretty steep medical bill. She will not be crippled. The only lesson she will learn is psychological trauma. You're a fucking idiot.