• POTUS Twitter Usage Continues, Calling for ‘Major Investigation’ Into Voter Fraud
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[QUOTE=SirJon;51724684]I think you guys are too quick to hate on whatever he does, geez I mean yeah his ego probably played a part in it but this is a good thing[/QUOTE] He's literally censoring what the USDA, Department of Interior, Department of Health and Human Services, and the Environmental Protection Agency can release, from scientific reports to social media posts, and nothing can go up unless his administration approves. I do not trust his administration to investigate this impartially. And with what they've done in 5 days, I trust them even less than before.
I like how you can read all of his tweets in his voice.
[QUOTE=SirJon;51724684]I think you guys are too quick to hate on whatever he does, geez[/QUOTE] I wonder when will people stop acting like this [QUOTE]Trump does thing[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]WOW FUCKING ASSHOLE[/QUOTE] I get your hate for someone like trump, but damn chill out and stop overreacting this bad.
Why on earth would we be angry about Trump tackling a problem that doesn't really exist
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51724637][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/0-000002-percent-of-all-the-ballots-cast-in-the-2016-election-were-fraudulent/"]So four people? [/URL]edit: Fixed the link [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/]31 since 2000![/url][/QUOTE] I don't think voter fraud is a pervasive issue that challenges the legitimacy of the results of the election, but I think it probably does happen, and the data showing that only a handful of prosecutions have ever resulted only demonstrates that people are rarely caught doing it. That doesn't tell you much either way when the government allocates very little to investigating potential voter fraud. I mean, just reading the first article: [quote]Most current ID laws (Wisconsin is a rare exception) aren’t designed to stop fraud with absentee ballots (indeed, laws requiring ID at the polls push more people into the absentee system, where there are plenty of real dangers). Or vote buying. Or coercion. Or fake registration forms. Or voting from the wrong address. Or ballot box stuffing by officials in on the scam. [/quote] The author is saying that voter ID laws are security theater, not conclusively demonstrating that voter fraud (particularly of other kinds) doesn't exist altogether.
he's saying this BS to distract people from his use of executive orders. Like a pickpocket 1 hand waves around round in front of you while the other is taking your wallet.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51724516] Someone [I]please[/I] take his personal account away from him.[/QUOTE] Don't ever take his twitter away from him It won't change the way he thinks acts or what he's doing, it just lets us know a little bit less of it
[QUOTE=SirJon;51724684]I think you guys are too quick to hate on whatever he does, geez I mean yeah his ego probably played a part in it but this is a good thing[/QUOTE] Is this not wasting resources on a wild goose chase?
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;51724604]lol he's bitter he lost by 2 million votes what a cunt[/QUOTE] actually, he won by minus 3 million votes
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51724733]Why on earth would we be angry about Trump tackling a problem that doesn't really exist[/QUOTE] I'm talking more about every single sensationalist headlines thread with "Trump" in it makes everyone ravaged and pissed, I noticed how every thread about trump has like almost 3 to 5 people telling trump to go fuck himself every single day. It might be just initial shock which leads to anger, but damn man it is the same level of childish as trump's twitter. I seriously hope no one drags this daily behavior for 4 years because by the end of 2020 you'll be having a heart attack. As much as people want Trump to not be president, it'll just not happen. And if people somehow impeach him, we'll get Mike "Zap" Pence to be president. And oh boy that would be such a good idea huh, will definitely make things better.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724725]I wonder when will people stop acting like this I get your hate for someone like trump, but damn chill out and stop overreacting this bad.[/QUOTE] this isn't really an unwarranted response, though. Since his allegations of "voter fraud", god damn nearly everyone - across partisan lines - has provided him with factual information that disproves his claim. However, Trump continually values his fucking ego over the country he's supposed to be running now, and so what was initially stupid campaign rhetoric is something that he's still concerned about now. His efforts should be elsewhere, and it is (and I mean this genuinely) an [I]embarrassment[/I] to our nation that the highest office in the country is being held by this idiot. One of his first acts as [I]President of the United States[/I] was to send his press secretary out to grill the press over fucking crowd sizes. Trump's shallow ego and experience is an embarrassment. Trump is an embarrassment. Voter fraud does not happen on the scale he is talking about. Everyone has told him this. What he is doing is instilling doubt in the electoral process, and he has constantly been seeking to undermine the role of institutions in our government in favor of his "I and only I can get this done" mentality. Were he so capable I would be concerned for the future of this nation, but thankfully he's a massive buffoon.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724777]I'm talking more about every single sensationalist headlines thread with "Trump" in it makes everyone ravaged and pissed, I noticed how every thread about trump has like almost 3 to 5 people telling trump to go fuck himself every single day. It might be just initial shock which leads to anger, but damn man it is the same level of childish as trump's twitter. I seriously hope no one drags this daily behavior for 4 years because by the end of 2020 you'll be having a heart attack. As much as people want Trump to not be president, it'll just not happen. And if people somehow impeach him, we'll get Mike "Zap" Pence to be president. And oh boy that would be such a good idea huh.[/QUOTE] Y'know maybe it's because every sensationalist headlines thread with 'Trump' in it also happens to contain the news of the latest fucked up thing he's done, like telling bald faced lies for the sake of his ego or literally censoring government agencies on the topic of climate change People are seriously fucking concerned and [I]rightly so[/I], and often times that comes out in the form of anger
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724725]I wonder when will people stop acting like this I get your hate for someone like trump, but damn chill out and stop overreacting this bad.[/QUOTE] If Obama did something questionable I would wonder what the fuck he was thinking. He wasn't a perfect president by far, made plenty of mistakes but overall was a definite net gain for this country. With Trump, it's event after event after event after event of complete and utter idiocy and an agenda so clear he might as well come out and call us The United Corporations of America. I find nothing wrong with his ass being blasted 24/7, and it's not unique to him. If the president of Spain or Poland or whatever was as much of a fuckup, I'd love to hear about it, like how Duterte gets coverage.
[QUOTE=TheLonelyDonu;51724652]It's going to be hilarious when the findings are presented to him and he finally learns that voter fraud doesn't happen. He'll realize he cannot go public with the information or he'll look like even more of a buffoon than before.[/QUOTE] That, or he'll put out some good old ~alternative facts~.
[QUOTE=Sitkero;51724795]Y'know maybe it's because every sensationalist headlines thread with 'Trump' in it also happens to contain the news of the latest fucked up thing he's done, like telling bald faced lies for the sake of his ego or literally censoring government agencies on the topic of climate change People are seriously fucking concerned and [I]rightly so[/I], and often times that comes out in the form of anger[/QUOTE] But then again, it's not healthy getting this angry, you do realize that if you don't have anything to discount the anger on it'll accumulate like a snowball. And how people are trying to impeach him (which is an almost impossible notion, and a bad idea too) will either keep doing it until they get sick of it and stop or realize it's futile and accept Trump's presidency. Also I think initial shock is a temporary factor for this. The book "[I]Stalking, Threatening, and Attacking Public Figures[/I]" mentions how "Hundreds of celebrity howlers threaten the President of the United States every year, sometimes because they disagree with his policies, but more often just because he is the President.". Even if you don't agree with that last part, you should focus on the "threaten the president" part. That book was released in 2008 and the same situation hasn't changed for 9 years now. Trump isn't exactly a newcomer for this.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724725]I wonder when will people stop acting like this I get your hate for someone like trump, but damn chill out and stop overreacting this bad.[/QUOTE] Maybe trump should work on doing things that don't elicit that reaction then
Considering the Trump administration has set the tone of being based on bare faced lies I'm sure he'll tell us he actually won the vote regardless of what the investigation tells him.
I fully support an investigation into possible voter fraud. That being said, if you are a Trump supporter who feels like Clinton's massive popular vote lead is due to voter fraud, seriously consider the reason why Paul Ryan of all people would say its nonsense. Dude has more to gain from the narrative than nearly anyone else in the country and he is dismissing it out of hand.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51724749]he's saying this BS to distract people from his use of executive orders. Like a pickpocket 1 hand waves around round in front of you while the other is taking your wallet.[/QUOTE] You're giving him too much credit. His narcissism demands that he can tell himself that his election is 100% legitimate and that he has a popular mandate with which to back his insane policies.
So what will he do when this major investigation turns out nothing of worth? Call it fake and then censor it?
Are you that mad Trump that the majority of Americans didn't vote for you?
This man is a joke, and a tragedy
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724725]I wonder when will people stop acting like this I get your hate for someone like trump, but damn chill out and stop overreacting this bad.[/QUOTE] People aren't acting like that, the things he does are just actually shit and/or childish. [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1549764"]Here's[/URL] a thread of people reacting to Trump doing an actually good thing.
Here's a fun fact: When Jill Stein called for a recount in Michigan and Pennsylvania, Trump lawyers submitted filings stating that there was no need for a recount because there was no evidence of fraud. [QUOTE=http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attorneys-said-no-evidence-voter-fraud-2017-1]"On what basis does Stein seek to disenfranchise Michigan citizens?" the filing said. "None really, save for speculation. All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake." The lawyers wrote that the purpose of Stein's recount effort was "to sow doubts regarding the legitimacy of the presidential election." "On what basis does Stein seek to disenfranchise the voters of the Keystone state?" it said. "None really. There is no evidence — or even any allegation — that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51724847]But then again, it's not healthy getting this angry, you do realize that if you don't have anything to discount the anger on it'll accumulate like a snowball. And how people are trying to impeach him (which is an almost impossible notion, and a bad idea too) will either keep doing it until they get sick of it and stop or realize it's futile and accept Trump's presidency.[/QUOTE] Can I argue that it's not healthy trying to pull the concerned armchair psychologist in attempt to dismiss valid and legitimate criticism against Trump and his administration?
[QUOTE=paul simon;51724766]actually, he won by minus 3 million votes[/QUOTE] Well you see, Trump is a golf man. He won by having a lower score. Not only that, Trump ran a very cheap campaign and it saved a lot of money, just like how he's going to save the country money. He saved money AND votes. Hillary spent $1.2 billion and got 3 million more votes and still lost, SAD!
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