• Hungarian Border Crossing Disturbance
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So these are the types of people Germany wants to force on Europe. Great.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48695248]It makes [I]zero[/I] strategic sense to send out even minute numbers of personnel that can be fighting on the front lines to do terror attacks that will inevitably kill these men and use them up.[/QUOTE] Strike fear in other nations? Plenty of islamic terrorism has already occured within Europe. IS has also stated they will take the fight to European nations, and just the other day gained the last oilfield controlled by Assad.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;48694520]but they're just refugees right guys[/QUOTE] and RT is just a media outlet these guys are flooding in though
[QUOTE=The fox;48695260]Strike fear in other nations? Plenty of islamic terrorism has already occured within Europe. IS has also stated they will take the fight to European nations, and just the other day gained the last oilfield controlled by Assad.[/QUOTE] Majority of those attacks have been home grown, not exported
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48695273]Majority of those attacks have been home grown, not exported[/QUOTE] I agree with you, but we shouldn't take in refugees whose identity we can confirm. For now we had home grown attacks but if we continue to accept everyone, I fear we might encounter exported terrorist attacks.
[QUOTE=The fox;48695202]Word is ISIS has plenty of men coming in with this wave.[/QUOTE] Thats not too likely, a much safer/cheaper option is just to send one of their European volunteers with his valid passport back, in a legal way. On a less serious note: [img]http://i.imgur.com/wBvBwMX.png[/img] We are crusaders now!
From STA, the slovenian press organization: [QUOTE] Slovenia Introducing Controls at Border with Hungary Lendava, 16 September - Slovenia is reinstating temporary control on its border with Hungary so it can better control the movement of people and is not caught unawares by a large group of refugees, PM Miro Cerar announced on Wednesday. [/QUOTE] [url]https://english.sta.si/2176087/slovenia-introducing-controls-at-border-with-hungary[/url] Would post more, but i really don't wanna bother translating right nww.
[QUOTE=Kecske;48695315] [img]http://i.imgur.com/wBvBwMX.png[/img] We are crusaders now![/QUOTE] Genius Hungarians - stopping immigration where immigration begins! Edit: According to M1 élő law enforcement has detained a person of interest who may or may not be a terrorist. Interrogation is underway.
Considering it takes place in West Syrmia I'm expecting the police to find more locals among the refugees in processing than terrorist suspects. [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] CRT news also say that the chief of police in the area expected promised reinforcements from the Capital, but they've yet to arrive at scene. They could use some since border+poorest county in the nation but I'm surprised that there hasn't been anything critical going on yet.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;48694820]Look how peaceful they are. Starting fire and throwing shit is the best way to gain sympathy right? Tonight someone will get shot.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jame's;48695257]So these are the types of people Germany wants to force on Europe. Great.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Squad1993;48694520]but they're just refugees right guys[/QUOTE] They were treated like shit. When you're held up for so long, things like this can happen. Not to mention the fact that the tear gas was deployed before the refugees actually threw anything, though I won't condemn the police for that, at the end of the day tensions rose and someone made a judgement call. To add to that, they really don't have the resources to manage all the refugees coming through, and their politicians have showed that they really don't want to deal with them either. This whole thing's a shit show: -Croatia is already getting ready to give them passage to Slovenia, and to take a few in. -Our country is getting prepared for the refugees coming from croatia to us, and through to Austria, but today I can't even say with confidence if our government will handle this properly and humanely. -I don't know if they will attempt to close the borders to them, I don't think they will, Croatia made a correct point - they're coming through whether we like it or not, because there are simply no more paths to take. -We might take in around 2000 refugees. The more nationalistic part of our population is losing their shit, I'm ashamed of some of my countrymen for the ignorant and hateful way they think. At the same time there are a lot of people who are making admirable progress for the refugees. -Austria hasn't closed its borders, but they have now set up border control with us This is a conga line of disaster. The more central parts of europe have had more time to prepare for the influx of refugees, I hope they do a better job.
[QUOTE=Conscript;48695044]Do you know of any immigrant parallel societies and problematic ghettos in the historic USSR? Even the Muslims were forced to be secular and shave those beards, which is also comrade Hoxha's greatest and enduring accomplishment in Albania. Such things were key to future liberalization, the communists having supplied a modernized people, industry, and nation. The liberals will destroy that out of bleeding heart 'tolerance'.[/QUOTE] Holy. Fucking. Shit.
[QUOTE=gudman;48696487]Holy. Fucking. Shit.[/QUOTE] At this point I wonder if he can be banned for being a gimmick. Calling Stalin and Hoxia "comrade" is a pretty big tell-tale sign I would think.
[QUOTE=The fox;48695202]Word is ISIS has plenty of men coming in with this wave. I have a feeling it wont be long before the situation goes completely out of control. Still, quite fun how regulations of "First country you enter is where you are registered and proccessed" is completely disregarded.[/QUOTE] "the word" is that the word spread by your local right wing thug group? Is it your word? You can't just say "word is" and expect people to take your word for it. Your previous posts have shown you are a xenophobe so its safe to assume your posts will be pushing that agenda, the quoted one being an example of such. [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;48694982]The Gentle Father of Nations, comrade Stalin, would never tolerate such hooliganism and would deport all troublesome demographics. Tis a sad day when the communists care more about the nation than the liberals.[/QUOTE] Adolf Hitler also had a solution to such problems. I think we're civilized enough to deal with this refugee situation in such a way that benefits both ourselves and those seeking a better life. Support those who we can and help them integrate.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48695248]It makes [I]zero[/I] strategic sense to send out even minute numbers of personnel that can be fighting on the front lines to do terror attacks that will inevitably kill these men and use them up.[/QUOTE]... So holding some dipshit town in Syria and literally doing nothing for months (which is what 99% of warfare is by the way) is more strategically sound than striking at and killing their biggest ideological enemy: anyone who opposes their just and righteous god? I don't think you really know what the fuck kind of war they're fighting here. This isn't just taking over the Middle East and lording over a bunch of brown people they're actually kicking off Armageddon here, this is a war of apocalyptic proportions. Why do you think they've been trying so hard to get the US to show up in force and why we haven't? We're deliberately avoiding giving them the credit by playing into their stupid fucking prophecy.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48697507]... So holding some dipshit town in Syria and literally doing nothing for months (which is what 99% of warfare is by the way) is more strategically sound than striking at and killing their biggest ideological enemy: anyone who opposes their just and righteous god? I don't think you really know what the fuck kind of war they're fighting here. This isn't just taking over the Middle East and lording over a bunch of brown people they're actually kicking off Armageddon here, this is a war of apocalyptic proportions. Why do you think they've been trying so hard to get the US to show up in force and why we haven't? We're deliberately avoiding giving them the credit by playing into their stupid fucking prophecy.[/QUOTE] :thatwasfunnyright:
[QUOTE=Swebonny;48694546]Yes? Just because they're cunts doesn't remove their refugee status. If they commit crime on Hungarian soil, send them back to where they came from.[/QUOTE] Also, are they being cunts or are they just desperate? Many of these people have stayed as long as they could until the very real threat of death forced them out of their homes There's also the very real chance that wherever they are based now, they're not getting looked after/fed/whatever
Weren't most of the refugees in fact teenage - middle aged men? Besides, why can't Saudi Arabia or even Serbia take them? Their cultures are already mostly compatible, why Germany? Serbia is vastly more stable than Syria, I'm sure!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48697571]:thatwasfunnyright:[/QUOTE]Dude. They're calling themselves [i]the caliphate[/i] and they're constantly referencing how the US military is literally the army of Satan himself. Laugh all you want but these guys are an 11 on the religious nutjob scale, I'm not sure how you missed that part. :l [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] [url]http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/[/url] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/16/opinion/bergen-isis-enemies/[/url] [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/gabriel-reynolds-isis-apocalyptic-endgame-article-1.2132307[/url] Oh look at that, looks like I'm not the only one who has made this observation. SO THAT BEING SAID, do you really expect them to not send people to Europe if their strategic goal is literally [i]the end of days?[/i]
I can't believe you fall for their propaganda.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48698533]I can't believe you fall for their propaganda.[/QUOTE] Can I borrow your crystal ball for a bit? Just want to pick some lotto numbers.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48698533]I can't believe you fall for their propaganda.[/QUOTE]... It's their goal. Propaganda and rhetoric aside this is what the organization is built upon. I've already explained in another thread why terrorist groups prefer inciting homegrown extremists and why that behavior absolutely does not exclude them slipping in a bunch of guys with some migrants. If their primary goal is provoking a ground fight with the West and their best method of doing that is sending their best and brightest to a Western country and committing an attack, why exactly would they not do that? I want you to explain to me why it "doesn't make strategic sense" for them.
Update: The situation at the Serbian-Hungarian border seems to have resolved itself as refugees realised that the corridor to EU is through Croatia and Slovenia. Croatian law enforcement has set up barricades to regulate the flow of immigrants. So far no incidents have been reported. Livestream: [url]http://www.rt.com/on-air/hungarian-border-police-refugees/[/url] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_hnKFSVv8[/media] [t]http://i.imgur.com/LwkSutX.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/pfQXZt4.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/FgkmEJZ.jpg[/t] [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1863581/Pictures/Screenshot%202015-09-17%2015.11.45.png[/t] Update: Police officers are allowing women and children to cross over. Minor disturbances have been reported. Update 2: Minor scuffles have been reported. Update 3: Refugees who managed to break through the police cordon have started boarding trains. [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1863581/Pictures/Screenshot%202015-09-17%2015.32.02.png[/t] i should probably make a new thread
Who can actually afford these migrants and who will suffer as a consequence? Does anyone actually believe multiculturalism works well as there isn't really any evidence to suggest it does. These migrants are not very humble, being as they are mostly young males, why did they not combine their numerous resources to fight for their homeland? If things don't go well for them in their new land of milk and honey I think we can see how they will react. Almost defies belief that Governments cannot see the future pitfalls, but there again they are powerless now to change a situation they created. I feel sorry for my future grand kids.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;48702316] These migrants are not very humble, being as they are mostly young males, why did they not combine their numerous resources to fight for their homeland? [/QUOTE] Dude, i don't know if anyone has taught you this, but a lot of people don't want to die in this useless conflict in Middle East since they have been fighting there like forever. And boy, it is really hilarious to see that everyone fucking forgot that we had like 80k bosnian refugees and 20k croatian refugees from the Yugoslavian war.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;48702349]Dude, i don't know if anyone has taught you this, but a lot of people don't want to die in this useless conflict in Middle East since they have been fighting there like forever. And boy, it is really hilarious to see that everyone fucking forgot that we had like 80k bosnian refugees and 20k croatian refugees from the Yugoslavian war.[/QUOTE] Most of whom returned as soon as Operation Storm and Flash ended. It is unlikely these will return.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;48702349]Dude, i don't know if anyone has taught you this, but a lot of people don't want to die in this useless conflict in Middle East since they have been fighting there like forever. And boy, it is really hilarious to see that everyone fucking forgot that we had like 80k bosnian refugees and 20k croatian refugees from the Yugoslavian war.[/QUOTE] I bet a lot of soldiers in the 2 world wars did not want to die liberating other peoples countries but thanks for letting me know. If you have genuinely just fled a country where your lives were at risk I am sure you would be patient enough to allow the country that you now illegally reside in, to process you in the correct manor. They are showing more aggression now than they ever have to the people that caused their plight, which imho is a sign of things to come. What were they expecting a new house with a BMW on the drive day one? I applaud Hungary for standing firm and not being swayed by others opinions, after all everyone else seems to be closing their borders now too.
If these people decide to stay I don't know how we could afford it. Economy is a complete shit for over 25 years already, our own people are leaving the country, elections for the parliament are near and the government will lick all asses they can get, so they end up being the good guys, not thinking long term.
Suck it europe two million more refugees are coming. :wink:
[QUOTE=AntonioR;48703070]If these people decide to stay I don't know how we could afford it. Economy is a complete shit for over 25 years already, our own people are leaving the country, elections for the parliament are near and the government will lick all asses they can get, so they end up being the good guys, not thinking long term.[/QUOTE] lol what makes you think none of these people are educated workers that can have a job?
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;48702316] These migrants are not very humble, being as they are mostly young males, why did they not combine their numerous resources to fight for their homeland? [/QUOTE] I never understood this argument. Why does anyone have to fight in a war? Also, do you really think that millions of practically unarmed, untrained, unorganized young males could somehow even retaliate? Personally, if a war were to start in my country, I'd get the fuck out of there instantly.
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