• Planned Parenthood Pushes Intensive Sex Education for Kids as Young as 10
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108115]You guys are missing the point. If you get drunk everynight, brain cells will die. If you get drunk everynight before you are 20ish, it will stunt your brain development preventing you from ever being fully developed. How often you have to drink to have an effect is unknown.[/QUOTE] If you play football every day for a year you loose brain cells. Ban football.
[quote]Also, yes it does. Alcohol kills brain cells.[/quote] You've yet to post any real evidence for this claim, mostly because you are fucking lying. [quote]You're missing the point here Lankist. It's not about free-will or choice, it's the fact that people could hurt themselves if given the opportunity.[/QUOTE] Well GOD FORBID. I mean it's not like this discussion is about EDUCATION ON RISKS and PERSONAL DECISIONS or anything. GOD FORBID someone decide to do something to themselves and themselves alone that might incur harm! Who the fuck appointed you as our goddamn protector?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108086] If someone wanted to do PCP, cocaine and heroin would you let them? It's their goddamn body.[/QUOTE] Yup. Good riddance. Before you say "you wouldn't say that if it was one of your friends" stop. I certainly would. I've had friends turn into druggie scumbags and it sucks but it's their body and if they're stupid enough to do things like that I don't want them as a friend anyway.
[QUOTE=Lankist;20108150]I don't care if they're an alcoholic, it's their goddamn choice. Driving drunk is illegal, starting shit is illegal. If they want to drink themselves to death responsibly they can goddamn well do so.[/QUOTE] :downs: teenagers are more likely to do stupid things due to peer pressure. Everyone knows it. [quote] Yes, I would. It's THEIR body.[/quote]Even if it would hurt them? All they'd have to do is wait. When you wait for things, it's much more glorious when you finally get what you've been waiting for. I guess society has forgotten that. [quote] Are you fucking illiterate? That article talks about the immediate effects of a mind-altering drug, and the only instances of brain damage are from other causes. And it's "Developing brain" section is about DRINKING WHILE PREGNANT you nonce.[/quote]First line is: Difficulty walking, blurred vision, slurred speech, slowed reaction times, impaired memory: Clearly, alcohol affects the brain. Last line is: ...as researchers strive to design therapies that can help prevent alcohol’s harmful effects and promote the growth of new brain cells to take the place of those that have been damaged by alcohol. Read the article. Don't call bullshit without clicking on the link.
[quote=sloppy_joes;20108157] it's not about free-will or choice, it's the fact that people could hurt themselves if given the opportunity.[/quote] That applies to every single object on the fucking planet. [editline]03:44PM[/editline] Most teenagers drink alcohol excessively because it makes them "cool" because they're breaking the law. No law no problem.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;20108230]That applies to every single object on the fucking planet.[/QUOTE] ... If you drink and drive, you could crash and kill people, if you drink too much, you can get alcohol poisoning and possibly die, certain types of alcohol are flammable if in the right concentration, alcohol in general kills brain cells. Nothing on the planet causes this many things. It's true you can hurt yourself with a variety of objects but people don't realize what exactly alcohol does.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108221]:downs: teenagers are more likely to do stupid things due to peer pressure. Everyone knows it.[/quote] Don't care. Educate, don't legislate. [quote]Even if it would hurt them?[/quote] I don't care what someone does to their own body. Maybe some nosy fuck like you can't understand this but I have a reasonable respect for the competence and intelligence of other human beings. [quote]All they'd have to do is wait. When you wait for things, it's much more glorious when you finally get what you've been waiting for.[/quote] You realize in this metaphor you are advocating zero-tolerance abstinence. We're still talking about sex education via a metaphor, genius. [quote]I guess society has forgotten that.[/quote] That abstinence doesn't work? [quote]First line is: Difficulty walking, blurred vision, slurred speech, slowed reaction times, impaired memory: Clearly, alcohol affects the brain. Last line is: ...as researchers strive to design therapies that can help prevent alcohol’s harmful effects and promote the growth of new brain cells to take the place of those that have been damaged by alcohol. Read the article. Don't call bullshit without clicking on the link.[/QUOTE] The article's mention of brain cell loss was exclusively related to alcohol-related diseases and severe liver failure, NOT direct alcohol consumption. Surprise, you lose braincells when you fucking DIE. [editline]06:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108279]alcohol in general kills brain cells..[/QUOTE] No it doesn't. I keep asking for proof and you keep posting bullshit. Basically what you want is for kids to never be taught about sex and to try to force them to never ever have it until marriage. YES that's what this analogy is about in case you didn't realize.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;20108230] Most teenagers drink alcohol excessively because it makes them "cool" because they're breaking the law. No law no problem.[/QUOTE] I will disagree with you there. Binge drinking is still a huge problem in adulthood. Even when you can buy alcohol legally.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108301]I will disagree with you there. Binge drinking is still a huge problem in adulthood. Even when you can buy alcohol legally.[/QUOTE] So the fuck what. If they don't drive how the hell does it affect you in the slightest? [editline]06:47PM[/editline] Why don't you just worry about your own fucked up life and let the rest of us handle ours.
[QUOTE=Lankist;20108283]No it doesn't. I keep asking for proof and you keep posting bullshit. Basically what you want is for kids to never be taught about sex and to try to force them to never ever have it until marriage. YES that's what this analogy is about in case you didn't realize.[/QUOTE] From the article: Drinking during pregnancy can lead to a range of physical, learning, and behavioral effects in the developing brain, the most serious of which is a collection of symptoms known as fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). Children with FAS may have distinct facial features (see illustration). FAS infants also are markedly smaller than average. Their brains may have less volume (i.e., microencephaly). And they may have fewer numbers of brain cells (i.e., neurons) or fewer neurons that are able to function correctly, leading to long–term problems in learning and behavior. If alcohol didn't affect affect brain cells, why do children with fetal alcohol syndrome have fewer brain cells and less neuron connections. I could find you another source and another source, but I have other things to do.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108301]I will disagree with you there. Binge drinking is still a huge problem in adulthood. Even when you can buy alcohol legally.[/QUOTE] Thats because the people who drink binge are poor as fuck and can't afford regular alcohol. Or they're just experimenting. [editline]03:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108357]From the article: Drinking during pregnancy can lead to a range of physical, learning, and behavioral effects in the developing brain, the most serious of which is a collection of symptoms known as fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). Children with FAS may have distinct facial features (see illustration). FAS infants also are markedly smaller than average. Their brains may have less volume (i.e., microencephaly). And they may have fewer numbers of brain cells (i.e., neurons) or fewer neurons that are able to function correctly, leading to long–term problems in learning and behavior. If alcohol didn't affect affect brain cells, why do children with fetal alcohol syndrome have fewer brain cells and less neuron connections. I could find you another source and another source, but I have other things to do.[/QUOTE] Except it doesn't harm the mothers body. Your missing the point entirely.
[QUOTE=Lankist;20108312]So the fuck what. If they don't drive how the hell does it affect you in the slightest? [editline]06:47PM[/editline] Why don't you just worry about your own fucked up life and let the rest of us handle ours.[/QUOTE] Out of curiosity, what do you think about drugs that cause strong violent behavior in people?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20107351]Boys can't get that up at that age, might as well wait for 12 when this info is useful![/QUOTE] I don't know about you. But I was banging chicks by the time I was 3.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;20108378] [editline]03:51PM[/editline] Except it doesn't harm the mothers body. Your missing the point entirely.[/QUOTE] It doesn't harm the mother as much because her brain is fully developed. :downs: Also, if you're a mom you're most likely not 18, you're probably older and have alcohol resistance from the occasional drink. Even if brain cells die, they can grow back, however, if you're 18 or 19, if you drink a lot, the brain cells might not have time to grow back.
I learned sex education when I accidently watched a porno at 8 years old. After that, I knew EVERYTHING.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108425]It doesn't harm the mother as much because her brain is fully developed. :downs: Also, if you're a mom you're most likely not 18, you're probably older and have alcohol resistance from the occasional drink. Even if brain cells die, they can grow back, however, if you're 18 or 19, if you drink a lot, the brain cells might not have time to grow back.[/QUOTE] You still don't get the point. The mother is not harmed so everything you just said is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108357]From the article: Drinking during pregnancy can lead to a range of physical, learning, and behavioral effects in the developing brain, the most serious of which is a collection of symptoms known as fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). Children with FAS may have distinct facial features (see illustration). FAS infants also are markedly smaller than average. Their brains may have less volume (i.e., microencephaly). And they may have fewer numbers of brain cells (i.e., neurons) or fewer neurons that are able to function correctly, leading to long–term problems in learning and behavior. If alcohol didn't affect affect brain cells, why do children with fetal alcohol syndrome have fewer brain cells and less neuron connections. I could find you another source and another source, but I have other things to do.[/QUOTE] Uhh drinking during pregnancy =/= drinking between 18 and 21. [editline]07:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20108425]It doesn't harm the mother as much because her brain is fully developed..[/QUOTE] No, it doesn't harm the mother because alcohol doesn't cause brain damage in anything larger than a fucking fetus. Lots of things are bad for a fetus that are entirely safe and legal for 18 year old adults, mostly because you're not very strong when you're a fucking FETUS.
My sex education was somewhat like this: "Yo dawg I totally nailed that pussy last night bro" [b]Edit:[/b] Artistic? Lol.
[QUOTE=BackflipHatchetAttack;20108920]My sex education was somewhat like this: "Yo dawg I totally nailed that pussy last night bro"[/QUOTE] what is a pussy
I have mixed opinions on this. While it sounds gross to teach 10 year olds sex things, it would most likely reduce pregnancy and STD rates greatly
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;20108961]I have mixed opinions on this. While it sounds gross to teach 10 year olds sex things, it would most likely reduce pregnancy and STD rates greatly[/QUOTE] Your reaction as it being "gross" is among the top reasons for better education. That stigma needs to go.
[QUOTE=Lankist;20107675]Yes because she was clearly impregnated because she was told of the risks, and not the other way around. [editline]06:17PM[/editline] Dude I didn't figure out I could use my whole hand for years. I still feel like a genius for figuring that out. We could change lives if we told these pent up dickhead boys that once their dicks get bigger they can use THE WHOLE HAND. Imagine the joy![/QUOTE] Umm, I started at 11 and I used the whole hand. :silent: Personally, I don't get what the big deal is, maybe I just don't that much pleasure in an Orgasm or something.
Don't be a dummy, cum on her tummy: Sex Ed.
[QUOTE=Fables;20109092]Umm, I tryed it once at 11 and I used the whole hand. :silent: Personally, I don't get what the big deal is, maybe I just don't that much pleasure in an Orgasm or something.[/QUOTE] I didn't realize I could use the whole hand until I was 12. [editline]07:36PM[/editline] jesus why am i saying these things
I am reading through the report and I don't any thing which says kids as early as ten should be educated in that. Only quotes mentioning 10 year olds are [quote]The world is home to the largest generation of young people in history – more than 1.75 billion people between 10 and 24 years of age...Capabilities among them range widely: some young people are income-poor and thus face barriers in many areas of their daily lives; others are poor in health, particularly sexual and reproductive health; and some are excluded from political, social and labour market participation.[/quote] [quote]Young people (between 10 and 24 years) account for two-thirds of premature deaths[/quote] [quote]The World Health Organization defines young people as those from 10 to 24 years of age, including adolescents (10–19 years) and youth (15–24 years). IPPF uses the terms young people, youth and adolescents interchangeably to refer to people who are between 10 and 24 years. Defining all people under 18 years of age as a child is often not useful because it ignores the circumstances of youth who are faced with pressures and responsibilities that are usually reserved for adults. Policies and programmes for young people should focus not so much on age, but on the specific developmental needs and rights of individuals as they transition from childhood to adulthood.[/quote] It seems here they're taking offense to their age range (10-19) and applying all their suggestions to age 10 and up. And I'm trying to find this bit about teaching boys masturbation at an early age, nothing in there either. That links to a separate report by the UN over sex education geared towards African nations having issues with HIV and AIDS. Oh well, that's :foxnews: for you.
[QUOTE=Lankist;20108619]Uhh drinking during pregnancy =/= drinking between 18 and 21. [editline]07:04PM[/editline] No, it doesn't harm the mother because alcohol doesn't cause brain damage in anything larger than a fucking fetus. Lots of things are bad for a fetus that are entirely safe and legal for 18 year old adults, mostly because you're not very strong when you're a fucking FETUS.[/QUOTE] Just read the whole article I posted before. It says: The cerebellum, an area of the brain responsible for coordinating movement and perhaps even some forms of learning, appears to be particularly sensitive to the effects of thiamine deficiency and is the region most frequently damaged in association with chronic alcohol consumption. Administering thiamine helps to improve brain function, especially in patients in the early stages of WKS. When damage to the brain is more severe, the course of care shifts from treatment to providing support to the patient and his or her family (18). Custodial care may be necessary for the 25 percent of patients who have permanent brain damage and significant loss of cognitive skills (19). [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernicke-Korsakoff_syndrome[/URL] WKS is caused by alcohol abuse. Also this: [URL]http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/164576.php[/URL] Drinking at an early age gives a greater chance of alcohol dependance. And: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism#Effects_of_long_term_alcohol_misuse[/URL] Seriously lankist stop being so blind and yelling the evidence isn't there. The evidence is there, alcohol has effects on the brain which are more severe the earlier you drink.
None of those prove that drinking alcohol in any amount kills brain cells, let alone causes brain damage in 18 year olds. [editline]07:41PM[/editline] No I didn't read them because I married a goddamn physician and I'm a borderline alcoholic so I already know what the fuck I'm talking about. I've thus far been humoring you but now that you've shifted your focus from safety of 18 year olds to diseases incurred during fetal development I think it's time I stop talking to you like you're a child.
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The second one talks about alcohol in teenagers brosef. Also, if you're a borderline alcoholic then you're just arguing for your own sanity. If I learned pirogies or caffeinated beverages cause cancer I'd probably defend them like crazy.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20109325]The second one talks about alcohol in teenagers brosef. Also, if you're a borderline alcoholic then you're just arguing for your own sanity. If I learned pirogies or caffeinated beverages cause cancer I'd probably defend them like crazy.[/QUOTE] 18 year olds aren't teenagers brosef they are legal adults brosef who have brosef legal power over their own intake brosef [editline]07:46PM[/editline] And given I cited the REASON that brain damage does not occur is that liver failure happens long before serious permanent brain damage can take place, I'd say I'm just being rational and not a fucking moron who believes everything they heard in DARE.
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