US Army Sends Strykers, Air Defense Radar to Mexican Border - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;35374432]Well, I do remember reading articles about the crazy shit the cartels build. Including armored trucks. [img]http://makezineblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/narcotank.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] that shit has no angling wouldn't survive against serious AT weapons look at all those flat surfaces hnnnnng

[QUOTE=Groat;35394419]Why don't we have a few elite National Guard units that are well equipped and used more often? We could even take a hint from our great and powerful allies in Iraq and call them the "Republican Guard"[/QUOTE] Democrats would be up in arms. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ewitwins;35395206]I realize and understand that is probably a good mentality to keep, but I'm talking about things from a financial point of view for the individual. Not every position nor is every boss willing to keep a spot open for every serviceman called to duty, and that's just a sad fact.[/QUOTE] Actually I believe it is law that they have to.

[QUOTE=Sickle;35374634]Legalize the shit and suddenly all these problems go away.[/QUOTE] Oh, legalize hard cocaine. That couldn't possibly end badly.

[QUOTE=Sickle;35374634]Legalize the shit and suddenly all these problems go away.[/QUOTE] ; Stop taking hat shit already, stop paying for illegal prostitutes, stop enjoying lower prices for products most likely produced by illegal labor. :/ [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] The only way to really fight cartels is hitting them where it really hurts: the support. Get the kids alternatives so they start learning or doing sports instead of selling drugs. We had the same situation in Somalia, our fishtrawlers fucked the local fishermen in the ass by essentially taking their fish so the fishers started making money by piracy. Mexico's infrastructure sucks ass, education is in an all time low so people start making money with drugs. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;35392499]So they are going to come into the United States and murder people in the US selling drugs legally. That scene in the Lord of the Rings when the giant eye starts changing direction comes to mind. If the cartels ever actually got the attention of the United States military, the cartels would be beyond fucked. Their armor trucks are cute and probably pop in a delightful fashion when lit up by the 30mm on an Apache. Much less the FFAR's or Hellfires. Legalizing the majority of their inventory would in turn make it almost impossible to compete in terms of prices with the US even after taxes. With the market here destroyed, their income would significantly decrease. Nobody in their right mind, not even the Cartels, would realistically roll into the US with any overt campaign to take out drug dispensaries. Not in any real numbers. So now they have a fraction of the income they once did (Guns don't grow in the ground, so the cash flow is intermittent based on supply and demand and kidnapping is only so effective. Ramp it up or kidnap the wrong person and hell rains down on you) and they no longer have a major reason to cross the border. That makes them Mexico's problem. With the reduction in cash flow it then makes Mexico's job of handling them difficult. Now if there is a flaw here, I'm happy to hear it. But from everything I have seen, cutting off their drug flow into the US by crippling the market is an extremely effective means of crippling them. They won't magically disappear, but their reach and power will be drastically cut.[/QUOTE] Yes the cartels will totally not use their money and experience to take over the new business. Surely they will just give up and go away since the US is absolutely free of crime and other opportunities to fight for their already acquired market. God it's like every post you do is just to mock your user name by proving it satirically spot on. Is there ever any ITN post where you don't derive your conclusions off your almost sickly extensive knowledge about guns and the best ways to kill humans?

If I was the supreme commander in charge of solving the issue down south, here is what I would do. 1. Send in Special Forces units ahead of schedule and covertly insert them into the country. Have them organize and train local paramilitaries for about 1 or 2 years. The end result should be an elite military police unit similar to the Brazilian BOPE (lets just call them the Mexican Elite Burrito Battalion, or MEBB for short). The US does its awesome covert thing and brings weapons over the border and heavily arms this new unit that should consist of a few hundred tough, highly trained, cold blooded, and deadly motherfuckers. 2. Identify all cartel high ranking officers, this is going to be the assignment for the MEBB. 3. Identify the areas in which the cartels have the heaviest presence, this is going to be the objective for the Marines and Rangers. 4. Covertly bring a large number of elite light assault troops (Marines and Army Rangers) into the country and have them set up footholds in rural territories. They are going to be the shock troops that roll in with the gunships and blast everything to shit. This includes drug labs, strongholds, and towns. At the same time, the MEBB takes out all the higher ups that call the shots, leaving the cartel soldiers confused and in deep shit. 5. After the Rangers and Marines fuck everything up, send in the Infantry units to occupy and enforce marshal law until the Mexicans get a hold of everything. 6. Clean up the Mexican Police, identify all corruption and let the Mexicans decide what to do with them. 7. Bring new trade agreements with mexico, and provide them with military support in exchange for oil. 8. $$$ [B][I][U]EDIT[/U][/I][/B] This isn't meant to be taken seriously. Please, lower your weapons.

[QUOTE=italics560;35414708]If I was the supreme commander in charge of solving the issue down south, here is what I would do. 1. Send in Special Forces units ahead of schedule and covertly insert them into the country. Have them organize and train local paramilitaries for about 1 or 2 years. The end result should be an elite military police unit similar to the Brazilian BOPE (lets just call them the Mexican Elite Burrito Battalion, or MEBB for short). The US does its awesome covert thing and brings weapons over the border and heavily arms this new unit that should consist of a few hundred tough, highly trained, cold blooded, and deadly motherfuckers. [/QUOTE] What the fuck are you doing, Mexico is a sovereign country you mouthbreathing prick. With it's own US trained Special Forces who are being deployed against the cartels. Don't use words like "awesome", "burrito" and "motherfucker" if you want to be perceived as older than 16. [QUOTE=italics560;35414708] 2. Identify all cartel high ranking officers, this is going to be the assignment for the MEBB.[/quote] No, that's an assignment for the investigative police and/or domestic intelligence, not for your tactical dream team. And they've already done that. [QUOTE=italics560;35414708] 3. Identify the areas in which the cartels have the heaviest presence, this is going to be the objective for the Marines and Rangers.[/quote] Mexico is a sovereign nation with it's own amphibious troops and light infantry, both of whom are deployed against the cartels. What you don't seem to understand is that Mexico is highly urbanized and cartel members dress just like everyone else. [QUOTE=italics560;35414708] 4. Covertly bring a large number of elite light assault troops (Marines and Army Rangers) into the country and have them set up footholds in rural territories. They are going to be the shock troops that roll in with the gunships and blast everything to shit. This includes drug labs, strongholds, and towns. At the same time, the MEBB takes out all the higher ups that call the shots, leaving the cartel soldiers confused and in deep shit. [/quote] Please fuck off and die, you armchair general, Expendables-watching little shit. Also, already addressed this point. [QUOTE=italics560;35414708] 5. After the Rangers and Marines fuck everything up, send in the Infantry units to occupy and enforce marshal law until the Mexicans get a hold of everything. [/quote] So Rangers are not infantry? Marines don't have infantry units? Fuck it, I can't be arsed to address your next two stupid ass fucking points. Stop browsing /k/ and read a fucking book.

[QUOTE=italics560;35414708]If I was the supreme commander in charge of solving the issue down south, here is what I would do. 1. Send in Special Forces units ahead of schedule and covertly insert them into the country. Have them organize and train local paramilitaries for about 1 or 2 years. The end result should be an elite military police unit similar to the Brazilian BOPE (lets just call them the Mexican Elite Burrito Battalion, or MEBB for short). The US does its awesome covert thing and brings weapons over the border and heavily arms this new unit that should consist of a few hundred tough, highly trained, cold blooded, and deadly motherfuckers. 2. Identify all cartel high ranking officers, this is going to be the assignment for the MEBB. 3. Identify the areas in which the cartels have the heaviest presence, this is going to be the objective for the Marines and Rangers. 4. Covertly bring a large number of elite light assault troops (Marines and Army Rangers) into the country and have them set up footholds in rural territories. They are going to be the shock troops that roll in with the gunships and blast everything to shit. This includes drug labs, strongholds, and towns. At the same time, the MEBB takes out all the higher ups that call the shots, leaving the cartel soldiers confused and in deep shit. 5. After the Rangers and Marines fuck everything up, send in the Infantry units to occupy and enforce marshal law until the Mexicans get a hold of everything. 6. Clean up the Mexican Police, identify all corruption and let the Mexicans decide what to do with them. 7. Bring new trade agreements with mexico, and provide them with military support in exchange for oil. 8. $$$[/QUOTE] This sounds like the plot of a terrible action movie, written by somebody who doesn't understand how to fight a war.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;35415692]This sounds like the plot of a terrible action movie, written by somebody who doesn't understand how to fight a war.[/QUOTE] Exactly, I was bored and thought up of a "plan of action" in like 3 minutes. It wasn't meant to be taken so seriously. Jesus Christ. Rate me all the dumbs in the world, but chill out. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Splendor;35415337]What the fuck are you doing, Mexico is a sovereign country you mouthbreathing prick. With it's own US trained Special Forces who are being deployed against the cartels. Don't use words like "awesome", "burrito" and "motherfucker" if you want to be perceived as older than 16. No, that's an assignment for the investigative police and/or domestic intelligence, not for your tactical dream team. And they've already done that. Mexico is a sovereign nation with it's own amphibious troops and light infantry, both of whom are deployed against the cartels. What you don't seem to understand is that Mexico is highly urbanized and cartel members dress just like everyone else. Please fuck off and die, you armchair general, Expendables-watching little shit. Also, already addressed this point. So Rangers are not infantry? Marines don't have infantry units? Fuck it, I can't be arsed to address your next two stupid ass fucking points. Stop browsing /k/ and read a fucking book.[/QUOTE] I actually know all of these things, I was in ROTC while I was in college [B]AND[/B] attended ranger school. The Rangers are a specialized light infantry unit classified under USSOCCOM. Marines obviously have infantry, since their whole thing is "every Marine is a rifleman", and their primary mission is amphibious assault, but they adapted for the middle east. I've been to mexico numerous times, my best friend lives there. I make the drive once every 2 or 3 months and spend a few weeks out there. There are parts that are almost 3rd world, but there are other parts that are so beautiful it makes you never want to leave. I get stopped by military police and get my car searched at least 3 times every time I am there, and every time they tell me to stay away from certain areas and are honestly concerned for my well being. I'm trying to find work out there in the security sector, but its difficult to find the right job for me. I'm not a stupid person, but I am one who gets drunk and mindlessly surfs and posts shit online. I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers so much, but goddamn did you ever overreact. I really don't think its necessary for me to "fuck off and die".

[QUOTE=Ridge;35393334]In a perfect world, the US and Mexican governments would cooperate and send in our troops to high level areas and clean out the place, then fall back. Just skirmish tactics mopping up the place.[/QUOTE] In a perfect world, there wouldn't be drug cartels to begin with.