• AMD is finished: Bank hired to explore options; sale of assets possible
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[QUOTE=koeniginator;38442736]I'm well aware that the chance of this happening is comparable to Apple using windows 8 for their next line of Macs or Burger King dropping burgers from its menu, but it doesn't have to be realistic to discuss it. It's just fun to talk about theoretical situations. you know what I mean Sure the current hardware works with OpenGL and Linux, but it's not designed to perform for that, their priority is getting good performance for games on windows using DirectX, they probably care very little for the performance on OpenGL or making Linux-compatible drivers compared to making drivers for Windows. here's an analogy: For example, car manufacturing company A makes cars designed to be driven on city roads. The cars are likely going to work on rural or off-road areas, but car manufacturing company A's biggest priority is making a car that gets good MPG and lasts a long time being driven on city roads. It's also probably a hassle to make a car specifically designed to drive on roads but without the capability to drive off-road, they have no reason to remove the functionality of driving off road and the functionality might come in handy for a good number of customers so they keep the function after testing it minimally. Now car manufacturing company B makes a specialized car, designed mainly for getting good MPG and lasting a long time driving off-road, with city road performance as the second priority. This car will also run on city roads, but they don't test its performance on city roads extensively. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE] :iiaca:
cant wait to buy a petium D for $149 and an nvidia GTX 240 for $199
[QUOTE=koeniginator;38442736]I'm well aware that the chance of this happening is comparable to Apple using windows 8 for their next line of Macs or Burger King dropping burgers from its menu, but it doesn't have to be realistic to discuss it. It's just fun to talk about theoretical situations. you know what I mean Sure the current hardware works with OpenGL and Linux, but it's not designed to perform for that, their priority is getting good performance for games on windows using DirectX, they probably care very little for the performance on OpenGL or making Linux-compatible drivers compared to making drivers for Windows. here's an analogy: For example, car manufacturing company A makes cars designed to be driven on city roads. The cars are likely going to work on rural or off-road areas, but car manufacturing company A's biggest priority is making a car that gets good MPG and lasts a long time being driven on city roads. It's also probably a hassle to make a car specifically designed to drive on roads but without the capability to drive off-road, they have no reason to remove the functionality of driving off road and the functionality might come in handy for a good number of customers so they keep the function after testing it minimally. Now car manufacturing company B makes a specialized car, designed mainly for getting good MPG and lasting a long time driving off-road, with city road performance as the second priority. This car will also run on city roads, but they don't test its performance on city roads extensively. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE] I doubt OpenGL is going to get a magic FPS boost if DirectX barely had one even though it had/has so much developer attention It's all up to what the developer does with the hardware, not vice versa
[QUOTE=koeniginator;38442736] you know what I mean Sure the current hardware works with OpenGL and Linux, but it's not designed to perform for that, their priority is getting good performance for games on windows using DirectX, they probably care very little for the performance on OpenGL or making Linux-compatible drivers compared to making drivers for Windows. here's an analogy: For example, car manufacturing company A makes cars designed to be driven on city roads. The cars are likely going to work on rural or off-road areas, but car manufacturing company A's biggest priority is making a car that gets good MPG and lasts a long time being driven on city roads. It's also probably a hassle to make a car specifically designed to drive on roads but without the capability to drive off-road, they have no reason to remove the functionality of driving off road and the functionality might come in handy for a good number of customers so they keep the function after testing it minimally. Now car manufacturing company B makes a specialized car, designed mainly for getting good MPG and lasting a long time driving off-road, with city road performance as the second priority. This car will also run on city roads, but they don't test its performance on city roads extensively. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE] this is a software and not hardware limitation
I'm not sure I understand the situation here. AMD's lack of participation in the mobile device market is somehow causing its PC sales to dwindle and the company to topple? Are the two markets not separate? Why does failure in one market mean the other markets fall with it? I feel like there's way more that's causing this than what the article lets on. Is it simply the fact that they don't have the development funds to keep up with competitors like Intel anymore? If that's true, how can Nividia's GPUs compete with AMDs' if AMD is a bigger company and has its foot in more markets with likely more funds with which to invest in GPU development?
Amd is way better, intel is fucking ugly shit. :V
I'm not surprised. they've been putting out subpar product for too long. I understand the "decent quality at a much lower price" but how long can you live off of that. and yeah they had a looooooong stretch of bad GPUs and even CPUs [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] really hope another competitor steps up
[QUOTE=RoadOfGirl;38444000]I'm not surprised. they've been putting out subpar product for too long. I understand the "decent quality at a much lower price" but how long can you live off of that. and yeah they had a looooooong stretch of bad GPUs and even CPUs [editline]14th November 2012[/editline] really hope another competitor steps up[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? AMD has always been on par if not a step ahead of the GPU market.
Ugh, it would be a nightmare if Intel was completely unopposed in the PC CPU market. Remember the massive price hike after Bulldozer failed spectacularly and Intel decided they didn't have to compete anymore?
Except the new FX series processors are fucking amazing. I hope they survive. I'm actually buying one here soon and a price hike because they're going out of business would suck dick.
Goodbye Dreams of a 25 Core CPU...
[QUOTE=Dizzeh;38443995]Amd is way better, intel is fucking ugly shit. :V[/QUOTE] ugly internal processors? what?
snipe
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;38440555]If this goes through, I'll probably just switch to Nvidia products. Always heard their graphics cards were superior anyway.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;gvdf5n-zI14]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14[/video]
Buying ATi and selling their embedded GPU business to Qualcomm were crucial mistakes.
AMD beat Intel to 1GHz, and basically pioneered the 64bit architecture and on-die memory controllers. Meanwhile ATI has been strong competition with nVidia for the last 10+ years, the leading GPU brand often flip-flopping between the two. It's sickening to see this but AMD specifically is getting crushed. Their consumer CPUs just aren't on Intel's level anymore.
FUCK SHIT FUCK All my hardware(processor,graphic card) is an AMD
I'm incline to believe that the situation isn't as bad as it appears to be. I find it interesting that the only information I can find out about this is on that source. Until I see more news on the topic, I'm not going to worry.
IMO their GPU's have been getting more and more shit because Nvidia is constantly pushing PhysX for games, which just happens to be deliberately locked down for only Nvidia GPU's ( Even though AMD cards are capable of using PhysX)
[QUOTE=Milkdairy;38447374]IMO their GPU's have been getting more and more shit because Nvidia is constantly pushing PhysX for games, which just happens to be deliberately locked down for only Nvidia GPU's ( Even though AMD cards are capable of using PhysX)[/QUOTE] CUDA hasn't even been used extensively in more than a handful of major games.
AMD has announced that they are not selling the company.
I noticed, and I sighed in relief for many reasons.
Valve buys AMD, Gabe opens up designs, source code and patents to all, current proprietary drivers are merged with the open-source Linux drivers and then improved upon, Stallman blesses the project because of how free it is, everyone on the planet switches to Linux, saving the planet from global warming because of how efficient the new drivers and chips are with power usage, world peace is declared and all past, current and future games run on any platform without problems.
Hey nikomo, uhm, I know that your just dreaming there and all but, I'd like to advise you step it down a bit because you're currently filling your head with impossible ideas.
PC gaming is going to die because of this unless razer save it
[QUOTE=IPK;38446487]FUCK SHIT FUCK All my hardware(processor,graphic card) is an AMD[/QUOTE] All of my hardware was manufactured by AMD*
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;38447396]CUDA hasn't even been used extensively in more than a handful of major games.[/QUOTE] Only game I can think of is Just Cause 2. Used Cuda for water simulation, looks really nice, but no real point to it.
[QUOTE=Amez;38440457]I hope they don't go under, I don't want Intel to control the desktop microprocessor market.[/QUOTE] To be honest, in my opinion, Intel already do control the desktop microprocessor market.
Everyone buy AMD products quick!
I think they will bounce back when the next gen consoles come out.
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