• Planet Fitness revokes membership of woman who reported a transexual as a man
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[QUOTE=Foogooman;47288397]Walking into a men's locker/bath room with tits is likely to get you beat up [/QUOTE]What the hell? That's fucked up
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47288612]Except that 'he' is quite clearly doing everything within her power to present as female, and is most likely nowhere near a 'biological man'. Or are you just saying that once you're born and assigned as male, you must be a 'he' forever, even if you might have a vagina and be biologically identical to a woman who's had a hysterectomy?[/QUOTE] So going by that, I can buy a shell and green facepaint and then call myself a tortoise? If he feels like a woman he can dress and present as a female as much as he wants, that's freedom and equality. But I don't think he should go waltzing into female toilets and changing rooms regardless of what he's got or removed. That would impose pressure on areas of gender segregation in places where it is necessary. eg on a nude beach, everyone there is willing to be naked and see eachother naked. In a gym shower room, you expect to be with your gender without intrusion, and I think that the woman who submitted the complaint was right in doing so. The trans crossed the line.
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47288528]I know everyone's all accepting and all that shit nowadays but if a biological man (no matter what his excuse) strolls into the womens locker room he should be punished. If that's the case then what would stop any lesbian walking into the mens showers with a strap on and unshaved legs :S[/QUOTE] The woman that was reported to the gym is quite clearly presenting herself as womanly as possible, and wasn't even using the changing room to change. She was using it to store her purse and coat when she exercised. The woman that reported here was being transphobic, and quite rightfully had her membership to the gym taken away. [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=KillerSlash;47288772]So going by that, I can buy a shell and green facepaint and then call myself a tortoise? If he feels like a woman he can dress and present as a female as much as he wants, that's freedom and equality. But I don't think he should go waltzing into female toilets and changing rooms regardless of what he's got or removed. That would impose pressure on areas of gender segregation in places where it is necessary. eg on a nude beach, everyone there is willing to be naked and see eachother naked. In a gym shower room, you expect to be with your gender without intrusion, and I think that the woman who submitted the complaint was right in doing so. The trans crossed the line.[/QUOTE] I'm not really an expert on Transsexual rights and all that jazz, but holy shit even I can see that this is plainly wrong and honestly transphobic.
Its shit like this that pisses me off with the trans community, say it makes you even a tiny bit uncomfortable and suddenly you are the bad guy being ousted.
i wouldn't want a planet fitness membership anyway
[QUOTE=bdd458;47288787]The woman that was reported to the gym is quite clearly presenting herself as womanly as possible, and wasn't even using the changing room to change. She was using it to store her purse and coat when she exercised. The woman that reported here was being transphobic, and quite rightfully had her membership to the gym taken away. [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] I'm not really an expert on Transsexual rights and all that jazz, but holy shit even I can see that this is plainly wrong and honestly transphobic.[/QUOTE] No problem with trans. Never said that, I'm not an expert of Transsexual rights either but if you're a dude, no matter how you dress yourself up and say you're this or that, this person WAS born a male. Yes they're in transition so to speak, and they obviously feel in their heart that they are a woman trapped in a male body, doesn't give you the right to intrude into another genders space. Let's just take off our nice guy glasses, put down this acceptance to everything nowadays and clearly see that there is a man who intruded into a female locker room, plain and simple, and is gaining the upperhand over someone who felt discomforted by it. A male person entered a female locker room and was reported. The "reportee" is being penalised. The problem is right now in this thread that I personally see, is that being different means you can do alot and people will turn a blind eye for the sake of not offending anyone.
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47288528]I know everyone's all accepting and all that shit nowadays but if a biological man (no matter what his excuse) strolls into the womens locker room he should be punished. If that's the case then what would stop any lesbian walking into the mens showers with a strap on and unshaved legs :S[/QUOTE] Sexuality and gender identity are not the same thing. Also, NO. I'm a transwoman. I pass as a ciswoman. You think it'd go over well if I went into the men's bathroom? [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=KillerSlash;47288928]No problem with trans. Never said that, I'm not an expert of Transsexual rights either but if you're a dude, no matter how you dress yourself up and say you're this or that, this person WAS born a male. Yes they're in transition so to speak, and they obviously feel in their heart that they are a woman trapped in a male body, doesn't give you the right to intrude into another genders space. Let's just take off our nice guy glasses, put down this acceptance to everything nowadays and clearly see that there is a man who intruded into a female locker room, plain and simple, and is gaining the upperhand over someone who felt discomforted by it. A male person entered a female locker room and was reported. The "reportee" is being penalised. The problem is right now in this thread that I personally see, is that being different means you can do alot and people will turn a blind eye for the sake of not offending anyone.[/QUOTE] Yeah, uh, if you're not educated on something stop talking. You have no place in this argument. Transgenderism is a birth defect. Not some stupid spiritual garbage. It has been proven that [URL=http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html] the brains of transgender folk resembles the brains of the gender they identify as in both gray matter and structure.[/URL] So, no, a man didn't "intrude" into the girls' locker room. A girl went into the girls' locker room.
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[QUOTE=CulturalMarx;47289016]all the degenerates who rated OP winner should fucking kill themselves right fucking now. here let me help you stupid faggots: [URL]http://lostallhope.com/suicide[/URL]. fucking hate how this site turned into shithole infested with homofucks and transfucks. burn in hell retarded degenerates[/QUOTE] People were rating me dumb and I started thinking that I was the public un-accepting enemy in this thread Loving how if this person gave anyone in this thread any suicidal thoughts, not to worry, this person also gave them a link to help! 2 birds one stone, attack and then defend all in one post. Bravo
[QUOTE=CulturalMarx;47289016]all the degenerates who rated OP winner should fucking kill themselves right fucking now. here let me help you stupid faggots: [URL="http://lostallhope.com/suicide"]http://lostallhope.com/suicide[/URL]. fucking hate how this site turned into shithole infested with homofucks and transfucks. burn in hell retarded degenerates[/QUOTE] Good lord
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;47288976]Sexuality and gender identity are not the same thing. Also, NO. I'm a transwoman. I pass as a ciswoman. You think it'd go over well if I went into the men's bathroom? [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] Yeah, uh, if you're not educated on something stop talking. You have no place in this argument. Transgenderism is a birth defect. Not some stupid spiritual garbage. It has been proven that [URL="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html"] the brains of transgender folk resembles the brains of the gender they identify as in both gray matter and structure.[/URL] So, no, a man didn't "intrude" into the girls' locker room. A girl went into the girls' locker room.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'll leave this thread immediately. I wonder how often do you ovulate? When your breasts started developing? How your clitoris feels when you become aroused? What your risk of cervical cancer is? If you even have a cervix? Oh by the way, rhetorical questions. You go [I]​girl[/I] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Homophobic trolling" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Foogooman;47288397]Walking into a men's locker/bath room with tits is likely to get you beat up[/QUOTE] i dont know what world u live in dude most you'd get is weird looks
no you still get beat by some
Transphobic people are hilarious, you've probably met tons of trans people and never even known it. these days after a few years of treatment they're not really different from people who are cis
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47289087]Yeah I'll leave this thread immediately. I wonder how often do you ovulate? When your breasts started developing? How your clitoris feels when you become aroused? What your risk of cervical cancer is? If you even have a cervix? Oh by the way, rhetorical questions. You go [I]​girl[/I][/QUOTE] Aw, did I hit a nerve by proving you wrong with facts? For fucks sake when you're wrong just admit instead of being a passive aggressive asshole about it. You'll look less like an idiot too. You're an idiot if you think gender identity is determined solely on primary and secondary characteristics. And BTW, my breasts started forming in 2012. And yes, kindly fuck off you miserable hateful child. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("still flaming" - OvB))[/highlight]
she did a bit more than out a transexual, she also tried to get other members mad about this "injustice"
[QUOTE=CulturalMarx;47289016]all the degenerates who rated OP winner should fucking kill themselves right fucking now. here let me help you stupid faggots: [URL="http://lostallhope.com/suicide"]http://lostallhope.com/suicide[/URL]. fucking hate how this site turned into shithole infested with homofucks and transfucks. burn in hell retarded degenerates[/QUOTE] Damnit /pol/, stop following me everywhere.
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47289087]Yeah I'll leave this thread immediately. I wonder how often do you ovulate? When your breasts started developing? How your clitoris feels when you become aroused? What your risk of cervical cancer is? If you even have a cervix? [B]Oh by the way, rhetorical questions. You go [I]​girl[/I][/B][/QUOTE] wow dude seriously? thats fucking low, what is your problem
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47289355]wow dude seriously? thats fucking low, what is your problem[/QUOTE] Don't worry dude I don't care. He's pathetic. I'm happy and he's full of hate and misery. I'm the winner in the end.
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47289042]People were rating me dumb and [B]I started thinking that I was the public un-accepting enemy in this thread[/B] [/QUOTE] uh yeah dont worry, you totally still are.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47287166]yeah when I went to the Turkish baths in Budpest it was like that for some areas that's generally a weird thing for Americans, its to the point you would almost never see an American wearing a speedo at the pool unless they are a sport swimmer. We almost exclusively wear trunks, when (from what Ive seen) most European guys wear speedos. Ill never really understand the US' reputation for being sex-crazed, I'd say we are actually pretty prudish compared to most countries[/QUOTE] Actually the world considers the states to be intensely prudish. There's the long running gag of the difference between an american and german game rating board. american - a nipple!!! AO!!! german - blood! VIOLENCE! AO!
[QUOTE=KillerSlash;47289087][B]Yeah I'll leave this thread immediately.[/B] I wonder how often do you ovulate? When your breasts started developing? How your clitoris feels when you become aroused? What your risk of cervical cancer is? If you even have a cervix? Oh by the way, rhetorical questions. You go [I]​girl[/I][/QUOTE] Sounds like you're leaving because you can no longer justify your shitty opinions [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] I used to be ignorant like you, and thought trans people were nasty and then I learned that I was a homosexual and developed a functioning brain, and discovered how mentally ill I was for thinking the way I did I can tell your brain is still developing
Honestly bathrooms and changing rooms as we have them now only make sense in a society where the only people using them are straight cis-men and straight cis-women. That's never been the reality we live in, but it's a lot harder to 'forget' trans people are there too than it is gays and lesbians. We're gonna have to deal with this because LGBT people aren't going to be pushed back in to the shadows and the current system don't work. The only two options I can see is either for us to make private restrooms, changing rooms, and showers for everyone, or for us to chill the fuck out about seeing each other's nudie bits. I prefer the latter.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;47289570]Honestly bathrooms and changing rooms as we have them now only make sense in a society where the only people using them are straight cis-men and straight cis-women. That's never been the reality we live in, but it's a lot harder to 'forget' trans people are there too than it is gays and lesbians. We're gonna have to deal with this because LGBT people aren't going to be pushed back in to the shadows and the current system don't work. The only two options I can see is either for us to make private restrooms, changing rooms, and showers for everyone, or for us to chill the fuck out about seeing each other's nudie bits. I prefer the latter.[/QUOTE] I prefer the former because it's the only one that would actually satisfy everyone. It's also easier to set up stalls in a locker room than it is to try and reform a millennia-old concept, especially when your only argument is that it would be easier to have one common locker room.
I work maintenance so I have to clean both the womens and mens rest room the only difference between the two is, womens rooms have stall bins for their disposables, and mens rooms change 1 stall into a urinal. That's it. Womens rooms don't magically have some actual thing that makes them actually different. if you have mostly male employee's the womens rest room pretty much becomes abandoned, but if both were unisex it'd be a lot different, making it a lot more convenient. [editline]9th March 2015[/editline] and also, if you REALLY HAVE TO GO and the mens bathroom has a line, you're basically fucked if it was unisex, that would not be an issue
[QUOTE=J!NX;47289647]if you have mostly male employee's the womens rest room pretty much becomes abandoned, but if both were unisex it'd be a lot different, making it a lot more convenient.[/QUOTE] What do you mean, are male maintenance workers not allowed to go in the women's bathroom? [QUOTE]and also, if you REALLY HAVE TO GO and the mens bathroom has a line, you're basically fucked[/QUOTE] Isn't that more of a problem with women's bathrooms?
[QUOTE=_Axel;47289612]I prefer the former because it's the only one that would actually satisfy everyone. It's also easier to set up stalls in a locker room than it is to try and reform a millennia-old concept, especially when your only argument is that it would be easier to have one common locker room.[/QUOTE] So ok, how would this work in a practical manner?
[QUOTE=_Axel;47289696]What do you mean, are male maintenance workers not allowed to go in the women's bathroom? Isn't that more of a problem with women's bathrooms?[/QUOTE] I can if I put a sign up, that's different though, I meant, that men won't be using the womens rest room, reducing the total number of toilets used. And if the mens bathrooms closes, they can't go to the womens rest room. Broken toilets or spills means men have to hold it or go elsewhere. Unisex bathrooms are just bathrooms. If we used unisex, men or women could just go to the other bathroom if one is locked. I've had to lock a bathroom down plenty of times, so it's certainly a thing I've noticed.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;47289718]So ok, how would this work in a practical manner?[/QUOTE] Well, that depends on how much you're willing to spend. Either you set up individual stalls only, or you keep the old male-female locker room system and add a couple individual changing rooms for exceptions. Transgender people are far from being the norm so you most likely don't need more than two.
[QUOTE=_Axel;47289750]Well, that depends on how much you're willing to spend. Either you set up individual stalls only, or you keep the old male-female locker room system and add a couple individual changing rooms for exceptions. Transgender people are far from being the norm so you most likely don't need more than two.[/QUOTE] I don't know that a lot of transgendered people are going to be willing to use 'exception' rooms. I wouldn't. Also, what about gays, lesbians, bisexuals, pansexuals, and so on?
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