• Theresa May signs letter that will trigger Brexit tomorrow
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[IMG]https://img.rasset.ie/000dd4d9-800.jpg[/IMG] Rejoice brothers and sisters, your slavery to the false European Empire, ends today! Your delusions end today! How does it feel to see your dreams turn to ashes, your Rome burn and to know that you will die with defeat in your heart? How poignant. Committed Europhile Imperialists have indeed been committed as those with Stockholm Syndrome are won't to do. The EU a nice idea but like the previous self-proclaimed European Empires of the USSR and Yugoslavia of which you have forgotten so quickly, it has come to nought, self-determination has struck the final blow to an unjust cause. When the Americans won their Independence from the British Empire, they did not cry economy and try to return to the fold. After the American Civil War, did the slaves complain that their nice warm homes and place to grow some vegetables were now denied them? We are not David Irving's who would alter history to suit their own morally reprehensible views. Queen Elizabeth II is your rightful ruler and commander, her heirs are your rightful rulers and commanders, her and her heirs own your allegiance as British citizens and everything you do is to further their cause! [IMG]https://s26.postimg.org/5mju9xkuh/maam1.gif[/IMG] Gina Miller do you hear me! Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson, Alistair Campbell, David Cameron, Tim Farron, Bob Geldof, Charlotte Church, Micheal Heseltine, David Lammy. We have beaten the EU! What no-one could do with panzers, we have done with the vote. You guys have taken a hell of a beating! You better shape up your attitudes if you plan on seeking bluer waters, because do you think all your friends and family will follow you? Will you leave them in your self-imagined imaged of destruction, will you abandon them and Leave them in darkness? Time to hand in your EU flags folks [one less star] as those flags are now out of date and who knows how much it will cost to replace them something the UK will no longer be billed on. Soon countries like Sweden, Germany and the Netherlands will be responsible for paying extra cash in order to keep above the ocean waves. [IMG]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/391392euwankas.gif[/IMG] But our greatest victory will be when you realise we were right all along. The EU will fade from your memory and it will be as if it was never there, a mote of dust in the history books. You yourselves will abandon the EUSSR and tear down its walls. Still have the Council of Europe though eh? [IMG]https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2013/05/03/21/farage.jpg[/IMG] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("what" - Bengley))[/highlight]
People really seem to like voting against their best interests. Sorry this is happening to all of you over there.
[QUOTE=The mouse;52027873]Here's a positive impact you might actually acknowledge. The British "far right" has been destroyed by Brexit. They've been placated and now have no reason to exist.[/QUOTE] Why not implement Sharia law to placate islamist extremists while you're at it?
[QUOTE=The mouse;52027873]Here's a positive impact you might actually acknowledge. The British "far right" has been destroyed by Brexit. They've been placated and now have no reason to exist.[/QUOTE] Explain how the far right was destroyed when they still have plenty of targets for their racism and xenophobia, on top of which you seem to think the Tories will just give up the former UK's status as their current personal playground.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52028066]Why not implement Sharia law to placate islamist extremists while you're at it?[/QUOTE] But that's what the Daily Mail says the [I]left[/I] wants to do! It's why they have to leave the icky EU so they can reassert control of their borders! #MAG--wait, wrong group of idiots.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52028093]But that's what the Daily Mail says the [I]left[/I] wants to do! It's why they have to leave the icky EU so they can reassert control of their borders! #MAG--wait, wrong group of idiots.[/QUOTE] since scotland n ireland want to leave already, make england great again #MEGA
Well given that its happening now and not much is gonna stop it, what are going to be the socio-economic benefits to leaving the EU? There's a lot of doom mongering and I want to know what the good aspects of leaving will be, since every discussion I see on the topic ends up being a shit-slinging shitfest and I never learn anything. Without refering to racist opinions or the membership fee, what will be the positives?
[QUOTE=EditOutJ;52028123]Well given that its happening now and not much is gonna stop it, what are going to be the socio-economic benefits to leaving the EU? There's a lot of doom mongering and I want to know what the good aspects of leaving will be, since every discussion I see on the topic ends up being a shit-slinging shitfest and I never learn anything. Without refering to racist opinions or the membership fee, what will be the positives?[/QUOTE] almost every economic entity worth the ink that their papers are written in has said that leaving the EU will negatively impact the economic growth of the UK in the short term and the long term i would give you the economic argument for leaving but it doesn't exist maybe if you strung together some drunken sentence involving the phrases "selling cake to france" and "they're our fish now!!!" you'd approximate the economic argument of leave
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;52028076]Explain how the far right was destroyed when they still have plenty of targets for their racism and xenophobia, on top of which you seem to think the Tories will just give up the former UK's status as their current personal playground.[/QUOTE] It's no secret that much of the "racism" and xenophobia stemmed from the election campaigns of parties such as the Ukip and various right wing newspapers in their drive to demonstrate the impact of immigration. Now that Ukip and all of their comtemporaries now longer have that issue to campaign on, don't you think that they will no longer have the prominance that they once did? In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.
[QUOTE=The mouse;52028145]It's no secret that much of the "racism" and xenophobia stemmed from the election campaigns of parties such as the Ukip and various right wing newspapers in their drive to demonstrate the impact of immigration. Now that Ukip and all of their comtemporaries now longer have that issue to campaign on, don't you think that they will no longer have the prominance that they once did? In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.[/QUOTE] It will just lead to more hostile xenophobic views. Look at all the hate crime against foreigners on the day after the votes were counted, stuff like this will only increase
[QUOTE=The mouse;52028145]It's no secret that much of the "racism" and xenophobia stemmed from the election campaigns of parties such as the Ukip and various right wing newspapers in their drive to demonstrate the impact of immigration. Now that Ukip and all of their comtemporaries now longer have that issue to campaign on, don't you think that they will no longer have the prominance that they once did? In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.[/QUOTE] Have you considered this might maybe make the problem more severe because this makes said racists and xenophobes feel more justified in their actions? Most of these people would rather not have any brown people tainting the free air of the former UK, witness the hate crimes and racist behavior towards foreigners or British citizens who looked like foreigners.
[QUOTE=The mouse;52028145]It's no secret that much of the "racism" and xenophobia stemmed from the election campaigns of parties such as the Ukip and various right wing newspapers in their drive to demonstrate the impact of immigration. Now that Ukip and all of their comtemporaries now longer have that issue to campaign on, don't you think that they will no longer have the prominance that they once did? In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.[/QUOTE] Who do you think that campaign catered to? Do you think racists stopped being racist because Brexit happened? It's​ not like the complaining about immigration is going to stop anyway, any decent deal with the UE is likely going to involve freedom of movement, so nothing will change on that front.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52028193]Who do you think that campaign catered to? Do you think racists stopped being racist because Brexit happened? It's​ not like the complaining about immigration is going to stop anyway, any decent deal with the UE is likely going to involve freedom of movement, so nothing will change on that front.[/QUOTE] Especially if you consider that the UK has always had control of non-EU immigration, which has been conveniently ignored throughout this process. I highly doubt anti-immigration sentiment stems from hatred for other Europeans from liberal democracies. I wonder if any anti-immigration voters will be happy with the continued influx of Africans and Middle Easterners.
[QUOTE=The mouse;52028145]In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.[/QUOTE] The joy of populist demagoguery means this is in no way the reality of what will happen. Assuming UKIP can get over the leadership kerfuffle (I refuse to call it a problem since it stops them being a problem) they will just re-target their hatred at some new "Other". Whether it be the poor, brown people from non-EU states, people from EU states who weren't "sent home", whatever. They will just re-target. Besides, leaving the EU doesn't solve the so-called "problem" of "the fucking raghead sand people killing us" that many xenophobes perceive.
[QUOTE=The mouse;52028145]It's no secret that much of the "racism" and xenophobia stemmed from the election campaigns of parties such as the Ukip and various right wing newspapers in their drive to demonstrate the impact of immigration. Now that Ukip and all of their comtemporaries now longer have that issue to campaign on, don't you think that they will no longer have the prominance that they once did? In other words, no one will be talking about immigration anymore because they'll consider the problem solved, thereby starving the far-right of their fuel.[/QUOTE] But the "problem" hasn't been fixed. Racists will still encounter Muslims, polish people, etc, they will continue to be disgusted by people who they see as different, they will continue to be unsatisfied with the level of "bloody X people" they see on a daily basis. Racism [i] can't [/i] be solved. It's an endless supply of fuel for the far-right. After Brexit they will simply move on to another goal (another group of "other people" to target)- If anything Brexit is a rallying cry to these people not their endgame. I can fucking imagine the next batch of bullshit already, "We took our country back!!! now to secure it by chucking out the Muslims! If trump can do it so can we!!"
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52027849]England shall prevail at falling apart and returning to the backwater status it belongs. Scotland forever, 26+6=1, and God fuck the queen. God damn, if brexit means the total collapse of the rotting corpse that is the English domination of the isles, then consider me a leaver.[/QUOTE] Really? You think England dominates the British Isles? I think you could do with a bit more education on the subject of the U.K. because that is certainly not the case. Also, you coming across as a bit of an arse for wanting a country to fall into decline.
[QUOTE=David29;52028283]Really? You think England dominates the British Isles? I think you could do with a bit more education on the subject of the U.K. because that is certainly not the case. Also, you coming across as a bit of an arse for wanting a country to fall into decline.[/QUOTE] Do you not think England dominates the British Isles?
I must admit it seems funny and a little frightening how Zilla appears to be the most Irish Republican person on the site. :V [editline]29th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52028303]Do you not think England dominates the British Isles?[/QUOTE] Well it dominates the isle of Britain and certain other isles around it, and currently Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. But it does not dominate Ireland. (God do I hate the British Isles term...)
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52028303]Do you not think England dominates the British Isles?[/QUOTE] Depends on the context we are talking about. But I would be interested to hear in what ways it does.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52027849]England shall prevail at falling apart and returning to the backwater status it belongs. Scotland forever, 26+6=1, and God fuck the queen. God damn, if brexit means the total collapse of the rotting corpse that is the English domination of the isles, then consider me a leaver.[/QUOTE] calm down love, just because you have a tiny amount of scottish or irish ancestry doesn't mean you're either.
[QUOTE=Dracon;52027730]Representative Democracy is also a failure. Case in point: The USA[/QUOTE] Democracy in America failed because FPTP is fucking garbage and gerrymandering is rampant.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52028144]almost every economic entity worth the ink that their papers are written in has said that leaving the EU will negatively impact the economic growth of the UK in the short term and the long term i would give you the economic argument for leaving but it doesn't exist maybe if you strung together some drunken sentence involving the phrases "selling cake to france" and "they're our fish now!!!" you'd approximate the economic argument of leave[/QUOTE] Nah, haven't you heard? The UK is going to get the exact same trade deals from the EU that they currently have because the EU so desperately needs the UK market /s
[QUOTE=Mallow234;52027718]Whilst they might be stupid, they still have the right to vote I find people saying that people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they'll make "the wrong choice" to be pretty undemocratic and fairly reprehensible[/QUOTE] I never said shouldn't have the right to vote (My personal beliefs on the subject aside for now) The brexit referendum should have been considered like a survey about torture. You don't listen to 55% of the population if they want to reinstate torture, and likewise you shouldn't listen to 52% of the population if they want to, in one fell swoop, fuck over your economy. Analogy I always use is to replace brexit with drinking battery acid. Should the government listen to the democratic majority if they want everyone to drink a pint of battery acid?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52028476]I never said shouldn't have the right to vote (My personal beliefs on the subject aside for now) The brexit referendum should have been considered like a survey about torture. You don't listen to 55% of the population if they want to reinstate torture, and likewise you shouldn't listen to 52% of the population if they want to, in one fell swoop, fuck over your economy. Analogy I always use is to replace brexit with drinking battery acid. Should the government listen to the democratic majority if they want everyone to drink a pint of battery acid?[/QUOTE] So essentially you're saying that we shouldn't have held it at all.
[QUOTE=eldomtom2;52028763]So essentially you're saying that we shouldn't have held it at all.[/QUOTE] Yes. IT was pretty much only used as a means for some politicians to garner popularity, and it ended up biting the UK in the arse
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52028476]I never said shouldn't have the right to vote (My personal beliefs on the subject aside for now) The brexit referendum should have been considered like a survey about torture. You don't listen to 55% of the population if they want to reinstate torture, and likewise you shouldn't listen to 52% of the population if they want to, in one fell swoop, fuck over your economy. Analogy I always use is to replace brexit with drinking battery acid. Should the government listen to the democratic majority if they want everyone to drink a pint of battery acid?[/QUOTE] I don't like your analogies, they're misrepresenting what we voted for. We didn't ask for a firecracker in our dicks or to gargle a pint of battery acid. Perhaps you should look to why it was such a divisive vote and look to the future to see the effects rather than assuming that it's going to go tits up (which it likely won't) or you know. You can always assume but you're making an arse out of you and me.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;52027682]England shall prevail.[/QUOTE] That is the most dumb, knuckle-dragging stereotypically Brexiteer thing you could've said Boilrig. Congratulations, you have lived up to the stereotype. I sincerely hope that 'England' "prevails" because the rest of the country decides to split up and go our own way.
[QUOTE=David29;52028283]Really? You think England dominates the British Isles? I think you could do with a bit more education on the subject of the U.K. because that is certainly not the case. Also, you coming across as a bit of an arse for wanting a country to fall into decline.[/QUOTE] england has dominated for a long time one of the big failures of the union is the fact that the british nations failed to create a unified "british" nations the closest we got to a "british" nation is pretty much just an outgrowth of the english nation
[QUOTE=Chopstick;52028802]I don't like your analogies, they're misrepresenting what we voted for. We didn't ask for a firecracker in our dicks or to gargle a pint of battery acid. Perhaps you should look to why it was such a divisive vote and look to the future to see the effects rather than assuming that it's going to go tits up (which it likely won't) or you know. You can always assume but you're making an arse out of you and me.[/QUOTE] It was a divisive vote because remain did a bad job cause of complacency and incompetence, and leave lied out their asses. So with this decision we're saying "hey, if you can emotionally mnanipulate enough people, you get to decide the future of our nation!" Also btw I did a [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524335&p=50593219&viewfull=1#post50593219"]big as shit post[/URL] on why the experts think its gonna go tits up, but the UK don't need experts anymore, as we all know.
Fuck me I just can't wait for us to make our big deal with Trump. The guy who thinks we wire tapped him and cares for nothing but his own gain is certainly going to be good to us. Fucking hell Cameron I hope you regret this for the rest of your life.
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