[QUOTE=redBadger;36353972]here it is:
(might be nsfw for some)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO70ZjZ0wrw[/media][/QUOTE]
Ugh, keep your jaw locked shut and breathe through your teeth.
anorexia is a disorder and therefore needs to be treated. Anyone would stop any suicidal individual in his intentions without any moral concerns. A life needs to be saved in any situation, unless it is a necissary self-sacrifice. Suicide to escape a certain situation just shows the need for others to help, since the person affected can't deal with things himself anymore. No life is worthless or messed up enough to throw away, unless you are terminally ill and anorexia is a mental condition that requires treatment and unless she is a disfigured deaf, blind, paralised quadruple amputee rape victim with all her friends and family killed there is noting wrong with her life that calls for her death, just something that desperately calls for people to help her, and averting her death is the first step.
So, nothing morally difficult about this, this person needs help and she got it. Now get her back on track.
[QUOTE=H4ngman;36360795][b]anorexia is a disorder and therefore needs to be treated. Anyone would stop any suicidal individual in his intentions without any moral concerns. A life needs to be saved in any situation, unless it is a necissary self-sacrifice. Suicide to escape a certain situation just shows the need for others to help, since the person affected can't deal with things himself anymore. No life is worthless or messed up enough to throw away,[/b] unless you are terminally ill and anorexia is a mental condition that requires treatment and unless she is a disfigured deaf, blind, paralised quadruple amputee rape victim with all her friends and family killed there is noting wrong with her life that calls for her death, just something that desperately calls for people to help her, and averting her death is the first step.
So, nothing morally difficult about this, this person needs help and she got it. Now get her back on track.[/QUOTE]
That is a partly moral issue, though. Some people think that the value of a person's life is determinable, or the absence of the willingness to live constitutes a right to suicide. I guess it is common sense to most, but it still is a debatable issue to some.
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;36360899]That is a partly moral issue, though. Some people think that the value of a person's life is determinable, or the absence of the willingness to live constitutes a right to suicide. I guess it is common sense to most, but it still is a debatable issue to some.[/QUOTE]
It says she does not even seek death, just not eat or be fed. That is not even a suicidal intention, that is a unreasolable, loony intention. If I said I'd jump into a vulcano because I enjoy the heat and thrill of it, noone in his right mind would say "It's his life and his decision, so we can't restrain him". Once again, Anorexia is a mental disorder and the will not to eat is the symptom. It's not like she decited to kill herself because her life is terrible, she is okay if she dies as a result of her obsession with not eating. If a obsession turns lethal, bring the person to reason, but as of now, averting her death takes priority.
[QUOTE=H4ngman;36360985]It says she does not even seek death, just not eat or be fed. That is not even a suicidal intention, that is a unreasolable, loony intention. If I said I'd jump into a vulcano because I enjoy the heat and thrill of it, noone in his right mind would say "It's his life and his decision, so we can't restrain him". Once again, Anorexia is a mental disorder and the will not to eat is the symptom. It's not like she decited to kill herself because her life is terrible, she is okay if she dies as a result of her obsession with not eating. If a obsession turns lethal, bring the person to reason, but as of now, averting her death takes priority.[/QUOTE]
I do suppose you're right about that, although there are still people out there who'd blatantly state that she has the 'right' to not eat, even if she wishes to live and fight against her disorder.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;36353828]Either way is morally good[/QUOTE]
Yeah, someone who wants to live but simply can't make decisions for herself should be totally let to die...
Whether the decision was to let her die or force feed her it would be controversial, and I believe he took the lesser of the two evils.
I remember the way they forced fed the hunger strikers in the maze during the 70's it was pretty horrific, I hope that even though they are just trying to keep her from killing herself its not as malicious and barbaric as it was back then.
force feeding eeeek
Well because in her mind she's not well the anorexia has consumed her she can't follow the choices that would be healthy so it could be the only way to save her life. However, afterwards she will still need help, relapsing is so easy and just gaining weight won't remove all the background, more deep rooted problems connected with eating disorders. Having had anorexia and seen many friends and a family member with it, I've seen recovery is possible it's just very difficult and the sooner recovery happens usually the better.
[QUOTE=bluesky;36360356]I don't get what can make a child want to not eat. When I was a kid, I'd go run my ass off playing some tag and know "Hey I'm hungry, being full feels good, let's eat". From my understanding a lot of anorexia disorders can be worsened/caused by how the media portray beauty/women etc. I don't get how a kid could let the idea of skinny=beautiful into their heads.[/QUOTE]
well, I'm not anorexic, but the reason I don't eat much is because I simply don't feel much of an obligation to, like, when I look at food all I see is an object of little use to me. again, I'm not anorexic, but I'd imagine the media portayal may not necessarily come into it as much as the affected person's perception of food does.
[QUOTE=Cone;36366284]well, I'm not anorexic, but the reason I don't eat much is because I simply don't feel much of an obligation to, like, when I look at food all I see is an object of little use to me. again, I'm not anorexic, but I'd imagine the media portayal may not necessarily come into it as much as the affected person's perception of food does.[/QUOTE]
^agree with you. Until a few years back it was hardly really portrayed in the media. And in some cases people may do something like restrict their food for some kind of control in their life, or loose weight as a sense of achievement. A persons veiws on everything become quite extreme and disorted, it's different for each case though. A lot of the time it's smart people, often perfectionist(so physcologist told me)
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