• Trump White House declines to recognize LGBT Pride Month
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[QUOTE=mchapra;52422589]Probably not a lot since he was pretty off the deep end[/QUOTE] Assuming he's not offed himself yet because he still can't get a job "because of tHE FUCKING IMMIGRANTS!!". About as much as he was before; not at all. Pvt. Martin never showed a single speck of thought during the presidential campaigns. Though I'd love to hear the thoughts of our surviving Trump supporters on these matters more often tbh, it's kinda hard to prove the place isn't a "liberal echo chamber" when they don't fucking post in threads critical of the supposed "God Emperor".
[QUOTE=hexpunK;52422846]Though I'd love to hear the thoughts of our surviving Trump supporters on these matters more often tbh, it's kinda hard to prove the place isn't a "liberal echo chamber" when they don't fucking post in threads critical of the supposed "God Emperor".[/QUOTE] I've actually brought this up to a few of them before and explained that it really doesn't help their appearance as blind supporters. I got ignored or, in sgman's case, told that it's not his responsibility to worry about how others view his posts even if it paints them much more negatively than he intends.
It's actually a genius tactic. You can't catch a Trump supporter in a contradiction by showing that they have been inconsistent in their beliefs in service of blindly supporting Trump if they never post in threads where Trump is already being treated harshly over something. In one recent thread I was arguing with one (not calling anyone out) and found that I had the potential opportunity to argue either that they were a hypocrite over an issue, or had always supported the objectively-wrong choice, but when I went to go dig up the old threads from when whatever-the-issue-was first came up last year, I found that the pro-Trump poster in question had never posted in them, disarming me from making either conclusion. Now, it's quite possible that the poster in question never saw that thread, and no poster on this forum is [I]compelled[/I] to post in any given thread so it shouldn't be explicitly held against them that their input was missing from that specific thread. But this behaviour is a well-established pattern among almost all of the surviving pro-Trump posters here with remarkable frequency and consistency.
[QUOTE=Talon 733;52422652]a[/QUOTE] Yeah, compare that to being owned, not having the right to vote, not having access to public facilities, not having access to education, being physically beaten, working with no pay. I don't even know what you're fucking trying to say here. Detroit's situation is complex as shit, or are you implying that because it's populated mostly by black people that it's in a rut? It takes a certain kind of stupid to make a comparison like that.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52423735]Yeah, compare that to being owned, not having the right to vote, not having access to public facilities, not having access to education, being physically beaten, working with no pay. I don't even know what you're fucking trying to say here. Detroit's situation is complex as shit, or are you implying that because it's populated mostly by black people that it's in a rut? It takes a certain kind of stupid to make a comparison like that.[/QUOTE] Detroit is shaky but it's down to really complex reasons like you said. Not only that it's not just the black community, every race here is struggling, I say this as a local to Detroit when it's the Hispanic community and white community as well, and even then it's not some warzone that people always make it out to be, we're slowly improving our community here through various programs (As well as a combined resistance to the gentrifiers coming in but that's besides the point), of course it has it's bad sides and some are worse than others but it's not a third world country as some people make it out to be.
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52424504]It's because I don't really care. I know a lot of Facepunch does because of the high number of LGBT people on this forum but I just don't really care whether you're proud or not. Go parade in the streets all you want, I won't stop you, but I won't attend. The only way I'd join in the political side of the LGBT movement is joining in on the hopefully large scale protests if the government started arresting (or worse) LGBT people just for being LGBT. Maybe it's because I'm Dutch and gay marriage has been legalized since I was 5, and the only people that (physically) harass/assault LGBT people here are skinheads and Muslim youths, while Americans/Britons also have to deal with the conservatives currently in power through government.[/QUOTE] "i don't care!! it also happens to be that gay marriage is legalized in my country for 10+ years and the only people who harm gays in my country are the brown people" get off your high horse
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52424504]It's because I don't really care. I know a lot of Facepunch does because of the high number of LGBT people on this forum but I just don't really care whether you're proud or not. Go parade in the streets all you want, I won't stop you, but I won't attend. The only way I'd join in the political side of the LGBT movement is joining in on the hopefully large scale protests if the government started arresting (or worse) LGBT people just for being LGBT. Maybe it's because I'm Dutch and gay marriage has been legalized since I was 5, and the only people that (physically) harass/assault LGBT people here are skinheads and Muslim youths, while Americans/Britons also have to deal with the conservatives currently in power through government.[/QUOTE] No one cares that you dont care, if you want to be insignificant and compliant do it on your own time
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;52428542]"i don't care!! it also happens to be that gay marriage is legalized in my country for 10+ years and the only people who harm gays in my country are the brown people" get off your high horse[/QUOTE] That's not true, the politician who could have been our country's first openly homosexual PM was murdered one week before the 2002 elections by a white far-left activist who found said politician too Islamophobic. It was the third political assassination in our country's entire history.
[QUOTE=Jordax;52429014]That's not true, the politician who could have been our country's first openly homosexual PM was murdered one week before the 2002 elections by a white far-left activist who found said politician too Islamophobic. It was the third political assassination in our country's entire history.[/QUOTE] He was responding to this [QUOTE] and the only people that (physically) harass/assault LGBT people here are skinheads and Muslim youths[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52429078]lmao [editline]3rd July 2017[/editline] If I get called out to provide an opinion then apparently people do care [editline]3rd July 2017[/editline] u absolute REBEL[/QUOTE] Serious question, If you don't care for the rights of other people, why should they care for you?
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52430087]Show me the part where it says that having a a pride month be recognized is an inalienable right[/QUOTE] Surely you can't be so disingenuous to not realize that it's about more than "having a pride month," and instead is about the administration's general attitude toward LGBT people?
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52430087]Show me the part where it says that having a a pride month be recognized is an inalienable right[/QUOTE] Show me the part where it says the president should only govern for the few
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52430087]Show me the part where it says that having a a pride month be recognized is an inalienable right[/QUOTE] Nice deflation. I was questioning your stance on "i dont care about lgbt rights because im not lgbt" [QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52424504][B]It's because I don't really care. I know a lot of Facepunch does because of the high number of LGBT people on this forum but I just don't really care whether you're proud or not. Go parade in the streets all you want, I won't stop you, but I won't attend. The only way I'd join in the political side of the LGBT movement is joining in on the hopefully large scale protests if the government started arresting (or worse) LGBT people just for being LGBT.[/B] Maybe it's because I'm Dutch and gay marriage has been legalized since I was 5, and the only people that (physically) harass/assault LGBT people here are skinheads and Muslim youths, while Americans/Britons also have to deal with the conservatives currently in power through government.[/QUOTE] Basically you are saying you may take action when its already too late. Do you also say the same about other topics? "sorry, I dont care about gun rights until gun owners are arrest just for having guns" Is that what you would say as well?
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52429078]lmao [editline]3rd July 2017[/editline] If I get called out to provide an opinion then apparently people do care [editline]3rd July 2017[/editline] u absolute REBEL[/QUOTE] no one will call out to someone like you
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52430484]Do you want me to go protest against things that aren't happening?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52424504]The only way I'd join in the political side of the LGBT movement is joining in on the hopefully large scale protests if the government started arresting (or worse) LGBT people just for being LGBT.[/QUOTE] He's asking if you'd apply the same train of thought to gun control. Also it seems to contradict with this: [QUOTE=Dave_Parker;52430484]I meant I don't care whether or not the Trump admin recognizes LGBT pride month. Not that I don't care about lgbt rights.[/QUOTE] Considering you said you'd only get political if people were being imprisoned. Which indicates a [b]serious[/b] apathy towards equal rights.
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;52421959]Is there a straight white male pride month? What about a latino history month? No? Ok then let's quit it with these pride & history months. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Derailing thread" - Bradyns))[/highlight][/QUOTE] privilege is a real thing, think about what it really means and you'll see why this is a horrible statement.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52430831]privilege is a real thing, think about what it really means and you'll see why this is a horrible statement.[/QUOTE] I don't think! But I do think this is pretty messed up! Poor play on Trump's part!
[QUOTE=Whoaly;52422230]And honestly how many people in the United States do you expect vote for any candidate on the basis of "LGBT rights"?[/QUOTE] Hey dude I think you forgot gay people exist.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;52431240]Hey dude I think you forgot gay people exist.[/QUOTE] To be fair if your main target for campaigning is gay people you're going to lose every time
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