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Yes but they'll offend almost everyone here, just a FYI I can't change my vote regardless. Still remains a no.

I will empathise (or rather, understand) people who were raised in a particular way, leading to their views on same-sex marriage. Eg if someone were raised in a Christian household where anything same-sex was a big no-no, I will understand why they feel the way they do about same-sex marriage; family can have a very influential impact on shaping the perspectives of their children, all the way into adulthood. I will understand, tolerate and respect those reasons for voting no. It's hard for people to change their views when they were raised for a majority of their life to believe that those are the correct views to have. What I will not tolerate, and what I will not respect, are particular views held by some in the community; whether they are voting no because voting yes would be 'politically correct' (what the fuck? do they even know what political correctness is?), or they are voting no because of the dumb slippery slope argument that schools will suddenly indoctrinate all kids into being gay or the 'gay agenda'. Not a single LGBT person who I know or have ever heard of has ever suggested such a thing; you only ever hear it from people who can't present a logical argument for not allowing same-sex marriage. Keeping in mind, that allowing same-sex marriage is all that this survey is about anyways. [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] As for the 'traditional marriage' argument, traditional marriage has not existed for decades; people are now allowed to marry someone of another race, and arranged marriages are a thing of the distant past.

[QUOTE=Lebofly;52695416]Yes but they'll offend almost everyone here, just a FYI I can't change my vote regardless. Still remains a no.[/QUOTE] If you acknowledge that the beliefs are highly offensive, do you not think it might be worth questioning them? If your beliefs cause others needless pain (who do nothing to you except exist), are they good beliefs? Are they worth holding deer? [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] I think that if beliefs infringe on the rights of other people, especially those born a certain way, not harming anyone, then those beliefs are worth reconsidering.

[QUOTE=Lebofly;52695416]Yes but they'll offend almost everyone here, just a FYI I can't change my vote regardless. Still remains a no.[/QUOTE] I'm personally not going to be offended, and I doubt anyone here would be any more offended by what you have to say than they already are from your disapproval of the motion. But I am curious as to what your motivations are. I'm open to PM as well if you feel like you'd start a riot in the thread.

there's some serious lack of self-awareness when the same people whinging about political correctness and special snowflakes can't hack people calling their opinions bigotted

remember when in the early 2000s homosexuality and gay marriage was politically incorrect Up till very recently it was all just a taboo and a dirty joke in mainstream eyes, especially to the right now, to that very same group of folks, supposedly the only reason people rally for homosexual rights is in the name of political correctness? I don't even follow that fucking line of thinking. You ever think for one fucking second that maybe it's not about virtue signaling, but it's about people being more accepting of [B][I][U]people having fucking rights?[/U][/I][/B] [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Lebofly;52695416]Yes but they'll offend almost everyone here, just a FYI I can't change my vote regardless. Still remains a no.[/QUOTE] Dude if you think gays are icky or mentally ill or sub-human, no one is gonna be offended. It's not as intellectually dishonest as pulling some bullshit religious text out of your ass. We will, however, pity you.

[QUOTE=xalener;52698635]remember when in the early 2000s homosexuality and gay marriage was politically incorrect Up till very recently it was all just a taboo and a dirty joke in mainstream eyes, especially to the right now, to that very same group of folks, supposedly the only reason people rally for homosexual rights is in the name of political correctness? I don't even follow that fucking line of thinking. You ever think for one fucking second that maybe it's not about virtue signaling, but it's about people being more accepting of [B][I][U]people having fucking rights?[/U][/I][/B] [editline]19th September 2017[/editline] Dude if you think gays are icky or mentally ill or sub-human, no one is gonna be offended. It's not as intellectually dishonest as pulling some bullshit religious text out of your ass. We will, however, pity you.[/QUOTE] Political correctness actually originated in the early 90s as a satirical term by the college left in America pretty sure oh how times have changed honestly though usually when someone starts ranting about PC culture and virtue signalling I just write them off as braindead these days

Some people are voting no for the dumbest reasons. "i hate gays" "i want to upset the SJWs" "because tradition" [editline]20th September 2017[/editline] I understand this is just a plebiscite but c'mon just why?

Not letting gay people marry is like not letting black people marry. You just look like a bigoted piece of shit.