GamerGate journalism panel disrupted by bomb threat
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[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48472475][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag[/url][/QUOTE]
I guess by this logic all the "death threats" and "harrassment" that feminists receive can be similarly dismissed.
[QUOTE=DuCT;48472579] She then didn't show because she wanted the school to violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating any CCW.
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Do you have a source on that for me to read? That's pretty hilarious, since the most anyone is allowed to do to a CCW permit holder is ask them to leave, and call the cops on them for trespassing if they refuse.
[QUOTE=Saber15;48474357]Do you have a source on that for me to read? That's pretty hilarious, since the most anyone is allowed to do to a CCW permit holder is ask them to leave, and call the cops on them for trespassing if they refuse.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58528113-78/sarkeesian-threats-threat-usu.html.csp"]She only wanted metal detectors at the venue if I remember correctly[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/X9tZr"].[/URL]
Apparently she's boycotting all of Utah now though, so I don't think we'll see a repeat of the situation.
for those who want to know more about the SPJ Confrence, A person assembled a abridged cut of the event before the bomb threats evacuated the event
[video=youtube;62euQFWuQGc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62euQFWuQGc[/video]
"I'm not interrupting her to shout her down, I just want the information as fast as possible."
Jesus Christ dude that's not how interviews work. You don't get to ask a question and then complain that the answer is taking too long.
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48477304]"I'm not interrupting her to shout her down, I just want the information as fast as possible."
Jesus Christ dude that's not how interviews work. You don't get to ask a question and then complain that the answer is taking too long.[/QUOTE]
It was quite possibly the worst debate I've ever watched. Not to mention the "moderates" didn't know a damn thing about the subject. It's not GamerGate's responsibility to do a journalist's job. You can't cover a movement a year later and expect a clear understanding in a minute or less, like the moderator was expecting. He kept saying the past doesn't matter and they, as journalists, "weren't there for the misconduct so focus on the future".
As much as I despise Derek Smart, at least he stuck up for his audience as a game developer.
Oh wow I didn't even realise that was Derek Smart. He actually doesn't seem like an idiot here.
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48477419]Oh wow I didn't even realise that was Derek Smart. He actually doesn't seem like an idiot here.[/QUOTE]
that's why when I see Derek Smart be what he's infamous for I don't go,
"dammit it, it's Derek Smart"
and go
"dammit it Derek Smart, why?"
Also you can think of it this way, if Derek Smart get's it while remaining neutral, then people whose lively hood in games journalism that don't have a big outlook problem.
If anyone reading just this thread was wondering what the deal with was asteroid's posts in this thread, he wrote [URL="https://archive.is/wTEwG"]this hitpeice[/URL] today. And here's him [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/3h89ra/putting_together_an_agg_opinion_piece_feedback/"]going to gamerghazi to ask for feedback on his article draft[/URL]. Sure gives some context.
[QUOTE=Velocet;48477375]It was quite possibly the worst debate I've ever watched. Not to mention the "moderates" didn't know a damn thing about the subject. It's not GamerGate's responsibility to do a journalist's job. You can't cover a movement a year later and expect a clear understanding in a minute or less, like the moderator was expecting. He kept saying the past doesn't matter and they, as journalists, "weren't there for the misconduct so focus on the future".
As much as I despise Derek Smart, at least he stuck up for his audience as a game developer.[/QUOTE]
I know, it was kind of pathetic to hear supposedly professional journalists ask the panelists how to do their job.
I mean, if it's a hashtag movement you just do the same thing that any statistician would do. You get a wide an diverse sample of people in the movement and you see what sticks. It's not rocket science.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;48479927]If anyone reading just this thread was wondering what the deal with was asteroid's posts in this thread, he wrote [URL="https://archive.is/wTEwG"]this hitpeice[/URL] today. And here's him [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/3h89ra/putting_together_an_agg_opinion_piece_feedback/"]going to gamerghazi to ask for feedback on his article draft[/URL]. Sure gives some context.[/QUOTE]
I'm completely unsurprised. I'm also pretty sure he's not the only person on Facepunch who posts on gamer ghazi
I'd love to give some feedback to asteroid. Stop generalizing and stop acting like the Zoe Quinn scandal was gender based. When you sleep with a journalist that covers your game in any meaningful way and the journalist doesn't disclose it, that is an ethical breach and that is exploitative of the gaming public and his readers. People attacked Zoe because she was dumb enough to defend her objectively wrong actions while I'm sure Nathan Grayson's boss told him to shut up and not say anything on Twitter in order to not dig a deeper hole.
It's not okay to say all blacks are murderous thieves and all Catholics are pedophiles, so why are you defending a group of people (the media) portraying gamers as a bunch of "misogonerds"? Why are you calling out Gamergate for being a hateful campaign when in reality, there is very little harassment and when it is, it's by troll accounts that can't even be connected to the movement, while anti-GG are proud to do it on their accounts with thousands of followers and tend of thousands of tweets. It is also the driving force for ethical discussion on Twitter and that is a verifiable fact.
[QUOTE=Velocet;48480892]I'd love to give some feedback to asteroid. Stop generalizing and stop acting like the Zoe Quinn scandal was gender based. When you sleep with a journalist that covers your game in any meaningful way and the journalist doesn't disclose it, that is an ethical breach and that is exploitative of the gaming public and his readers. People attacked Zoe because she was dumb enough to defend her objectively wrong actions while I'm sure Nathan Grayson's boss told him to shut up and not say anything on Twitter in order to not dig a deeper hole.
It's not okay to say all blacks are murderous thieves and all Catholics are pedophiles, so why are you defending a group of people (the media) portraying gamers as a bunch of "misogonerds"? Why are you calling out Gamergate for being a hateful campaign when in reality, there is very little harassment and when it is, it's by troll accounts that can't even be connected to the movement, while anti-GG are proud to do it on their accounts with thousands of followers and tend of thousands of tweets. It is also the driving force for ethical discussion on Twitter and that is a verifiable fact.[/QUOTE]
If the Zoe Quinn scandal was anything. It was genderbased, because everyone washed away or ignored a man being abused by a woman because it didn't fit with their comfortable standards.
I actually did a tally of the Quinnspiracy thread during its start; most of the sexism came from MaxofS2D and others who were trying to paint Eron as being a jilted ex-boyfriend or some creepy guy on the internet.
Eron was abused and every 'professional' and 'unprofessional' sourcing I've ever seen has labeled him jilted or the abuser. Zoe Quinn is an abusive monster, end of.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;48479927]If anyone reading just this thread was wondering what the deal with was asteroid's posts in this thread, he wrote [URL="https://archive.is/wTEwG"]this hitpeice[/URL] today. And here's him [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/3h89ra/putting_together_an_agg_opinion_piece_feedback/"]going to gamerghazi to ask for feedback on his article draft[/URL]. Sure gives some context.[/QUOTE]
Jesus fucking Christmas.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;48479927]If anyone reading just this thread was wondering what the deal with was asteroid's posts in this thread, he wrote [URL="https://archive.is/wTEwG"]this hitpeice[/URL] today. And here's him [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/3h89ra/putting_together_an_agg_opinion_piece_feedback/"]going to gamerghazi to ask for feedback on his article draft[/URL]. Sure gives some context.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Or... alternatively Rise Miami News is a site that's been a fairly big deal to GG in the past few days and he checks out Ghazi every now and then like some other people do.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
well, in his defense, it is directly relevant to the conversation.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Its something someone else posted in our GD thread, someone who is a writer for rise miami, i posted it here because it was relevent. Who have I "stalked accross the internet"? If you dont have some basis to accusations you make for me to respond to do please dont make them.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Reading someone's article is stalking?
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ it's like listening to ghazi all over again
"this is doxxing!! and harassment!!!"
if someone publicly publishes an article and then posts it online linked to his username, it's not called doxxing when other people read it
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;48474335]It's just amusing how the roles keep turning and aGG has shown once again they can't stand by their own standards[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately it won't get the attention it deserves. The games media will unfortunately only report abuses that can be framed in a way that hurts GG.
[QUOTE=Monkah;48496203]
"this is doxxing!! and harassment!!!"[/QUOTE]
Only doxxing I've seen on fp has been angry social justice minded users targetting people they disagree with.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Oh just shut the fuck up.
I know for a fact that wouldn't even care if someone was found posting on Stormfront and it was posted here to give context to his arguments.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
I don't see the problem. There's plenty of posting history linking asteroid to ghazi and I'm sure most people made that connection, same with MaxofS2D.
It's relevant to the conversation.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Do you ever get tired of acting like this
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;48494287]Seriously? You're stalking other forum users you disagree with across the Internet? That's just creepy man. And I know asteroid isn't the first person you've done that to.[/QUOTE]
Tell me, who are these so called other people he's done this to.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;48496653]Do you ever get tired of acting like this[/QUOTE]
No he doesn't.
Because he's been doing it forever.
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