Nintendo’s Public Relations Employee Alison Rapp Now Vocal for Pedophiles - Polidicks

It's shameful that I have to give a point to those homophobes that used those slippery slope arguments. Nyberg, this lady, a certain FP poster, most of the progressive media (Jezebel, Guardian), etc. The radicals now fight for pedophilia. [QUOTE]Japans Age of consent is 13[/QUOTE] This is kinda untrue. They legislate most of this stuff at the local level. I personally support a sliding age scale system like Canada's. [url]http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/clp/faq.html[/url]

Does she have kids? Because I can't imagine anyone with kids saying something like that. I also can't imagine she'll be employed for much longer.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49824017]You know. It's shameful that I have to give a point to those homophobes that used those slippery slope arguments. Nyberg, this lady, a certain FP poster, most of the progressive media (Jezebel, Guardian), etc..[/QUOTE]what does homophobia have to do with any of this?

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49824075]what does homophobia have to do with any of this?[/QUOTE] you know that whole schtick about "FIRST THE GAYS, NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY'LL LEGALISE PEDOPHILIA AND BEASTIALITY"

Why isn't she in imprison? Most people who say this type of stuff tend to get locked up on charges for this sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Passing;49824331]Why isn't she in imprison? Most people who say this type of stuff tend to get locked up on charges for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE] because she hasn't done anything to a kid yet

[QUOTE=Passing;49824331]Why isn't she in imprison? Most people who say this type of stuff tend to get locked up on charges for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE] Why the hell should she be locked up for saying dumb shit on the internet? What the hell kinda charges could she possibly get?

[QUOTE=Passing;49824331]Why isn't she in imprison? Most people who say this type of stuff tend to get locked up on charges for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE] Free speech?

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49823936]Quick question, and it's strictly a curious question: would you continue to hang out with someone if they told you they were a non-offending pedophile looking for help?[/QUOTE] I actually have a friend who is a paedophile, I actually caught him trying to use the dark web to find child porn. We had a long chat about it and we're still friends and hang out but I definitely do see him differently yes. I made him promise that he'll never pursue a career in a field that involves working with children, etc. He's not actively predatory and hates him self for finding young girls attractive but he does and we've had long talks about it because he can trust me with that kind of shit. It's a horrible thing on both ends and it takes a very strong person to wake up every day and continue living despite being essentially a potential fucking monster in the making. But all things considered I did have a very long period of contemplation regarding how it should be approached. In the end I came to terms with the fact that there's no way for him to seek help for his condition that's proportionate to what he's done. It's either he continues struggling and maybe becomes a serious offender and ruins his life, or well, nothing. There's nothing in the way of actual support for these people in the real world from what I could figure out. It's a sad state of affairs but that's what happens when you're dealing with something that is both incredibly dangerous and as taboo as sexuality.

Everyone is s potential monster in the making. Some of us aren't just potential either - some of us hide it better. And so we need to stop treating each other like we're not human and get to solving problems. Everyone on this forum is capable of doing the worst thing ever - just gotta push the right buttons.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49824446]Everyone is s potential monster in the making. Some of us aren't just potential either - some of us hide it better. And so we need to stop treating each other like we're not human and get to solving problems. Everyone on this forum is capable of doing the worst thing ever - just gotta push the right buttons.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I wouldn't go as far to say that legalising any sort of sexual acts with real children in any shape is okay, because it isn't in any way. But making it such a black and white existence that it is for people that have these feelings is definitely the other end of the extreme. Like, that child hentai stuff doesn't actively prey on anyone, and for my friend that's all he needs now and then to cope with his problems. Some of these people have it way worse than he does and there should be ways to help them that aren't putting them in prison and completely eliminating them from being able to contribute and interact with society.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49823925]Basically I think we need to rethink this strictness of age. When she says that this protectiveness of children sexually is a social construct, she's definitely overshooting. My thought is that we are overprotective of children in a specific [I]range[/I] that is unwarranted.[/QUOTE] I can definitely understand that. After all, people aren't created equal, as much as people would like to imagine. People mature with varying degrees of speed and "grace" both physically and mentally, and time is an exceptionally poor way to measure maturity of body and mind. It's a rough generalization at best. Sometimes you have child prodigies who get a degree before they hit puberty, other times you have 40 year olds who can't care for themselves for toffee. Sometimes you have kids who're conscientious as all high hell, other times you have Donald Trump. Just because its easier and simpler to say "once you're 18, you're an adult (but no booze until you're 21 WHAT)" doesn't mean that's the ideal solution, just because it's how we've bumbled through history for thousands of years. Ideally, we should build some sort of personal maturity model to properly gauge the maturity of people in various areas (responsibility, rationality, currently-dominant hormones, rate of physical maturation, etc), and use THAT to determine when people's minds and bodies are ready for various things. Sure, keep chronological "age" as a traditional aspect and a way to compare maturity variance amongst demographics, but don't let it be the be-all end-all of determining maturity.

I'll admit I have a certain hatred who abuse/target children or actively support child pornography that harms actual kids. But I also acknowledge that there are people out there who are biologically wired up in a manner that makes them attracted to younger people, who are unfairly stigmatised from looking for support because if they do then they end up being reported or otherwise ostracised by others. Child pornography (I refer to indecent images of young kids that don't understand the implications of it or are otherwise unwilling) is inherently harmful but I can understand why pedophiles use stuff like loli and artificial crap to burn off their urges in as healthy a means as possible. It's a shitty situation.

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[QUOTE=mcgrath618;49824765]Well here's the problem[/QUOTE] Except that has absolutely zero to do with the subject here.

"CP should be legal because free speech" I should be allowed to punch her in the face because free speech. I mean, I'm just ~expressing~ myself!!

What a fucking retard

[QUOTE=jonu67;49823969]Eh kids are all different, I was watching shit like The Thing back when and it didn't fuck me up or make me feel sick in anyway, though I'll admit it did scare the shit out of me.[/QUOTE] when i read "watch gore" i usually assume it is the kind of shit you'd find on the ync or ••••••••. y'know, real gore. while i support exposing children (and practically everybody) to death via trips to the morgue or visitations with the body of a deceased family member, showing your kid some dude splattering on the ground or getting their brains blown out is fucked up.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49825433]when i read "watch gore" i usually assume it is the kind of shit you'd find on the ync or ••••••••. y'know, real gore. while i support exposing children (and practically everybody) to death via trips to the morgue or visitations with the body of a deceased family member, showing your kid some dude splattering on the ground or getting their brains blown out is fucked up.[/QUOTE] Nope, everyone should be exposed to the most horrid shit possible otherwise it's "sheltering" and "censorship". It's probably also a good idea to make cuts in their skin and force them to crawl through raw sewage. (I'm obviously being sarcastic) I don't know if this woman is just some kind of edgelord trying to be different, or if she's actually insane

I think that while CP should remain illegal, any and all legislation surrounding loli and that kind of stuff should be dropped. Does pedophilia make me uncomfortable? Fuck yeah, but they can't help it, and it has been proven that in countries where porn is legal, less rapes happen, so logically loli = less actual children being molested. We need to un-demonize non rapist pedophiles and get them the help and support they so desparately need.

That's why laws like that exist though, people like that should be removed from society and get help before they ruin someone's life

How to Get Fired Step 1: Be in the news for saying that child pornography should be legal because free speech Step 2: There is no step 2

Even though she made us have a good debate on this topic... She is going to lose her job, no doubt about it. More Attention is on her... and she is a PR employee at Nintendo.

You don't force kids to watch gore. You be prepared to deal with their experience after they discover it themselves.

probably the most wtf thing I've read in the last couple days. Reminds me of a girl in my high school that said she was going to force her kids to be gay to be more progressive.

[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49824075]what does homophobia have to do with any of this?[/QUOTE] All the right wing conservative boogiemen are becoming a reality. [QUOTE]Reminds me of a girl in my high school that said she was going to force her kids to be gay to be more progressive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;49825789]That's why laws like that exist though, people like that should be removed from society and get help before they ruin someone's life[/QUOTE] Yeah man, thought crimes are awful [editline]s[/editline] This is why we lock up people that watch fictional rape porn, murder porn, gore porn, play violent murder simulators, play torture simulators, roleplay their rape fantasies online, and more, right? Because I'm glad we do that/

[B]I want to preface this with the statement that I believe Pedophilia is a heinous crime, and that I affirm the belief that measures should be taken to protect the innocent and vulnerable, particularly children.[/B] So let's talk about the criminality of Child Pornography, because that's [I]really[/I] what the issue here is. It's not that she's saying, "Pedophilia should be legal." (Though she is saying there should be more grey space on the 'you are now a sex offender' band. It [I]is[/I] kind of ridiculous that say, an 18 year old with sexually explicit pictures of a 16 or 17 year old would be considered an equal criminal to a 40 year old with sexually explicit pictures of a 2 year old.) Child Pornography carries a very special problem. Some believe, perhaps rightly or wrongly I do not know and there is no sufficient body of evidence yet, that child pornography serves as an effective replacement for the sexual urges of someone who 'suffers from' or 'is' a pedophile. Even the idea of what pedophilia 'is' is a problem on some accounts. (Currently there's an argument over whether it is a mental illness, or some sort of deliberate decision [I]and Jesus Christ isn't that a fun can of worms.[/I]) Whatever the case, it [I]seems[/I] the possession of Child Pornography is something like a victimless crime. [B]Remembering particularly[/B] that is it independent and legally distinct from the production of such pornography or the sexual exploitation of a minor. It is still something we morally condemn, but it is, perhaps, difficult to say how things are improved with a focus on the pornography itself. So. This leads to a particular problem. Although there is no Mandatory Federal Minimum Sentence in relation to the possession of Child Pornography, and we [I]must[/I] bear in mind that such possession is typically charged [I]per item of pornography,[/I] the average sentence handed down by judges is increasing rapidly and sharply. It is not entirely uncommon for a sentence for a single count of possession of child pornography to be greater than a sentence for [B]murder.[/B] It would even make more 'sense' in terms of risk, in terms of the statistical averages, to rape and kill a single child than possess one hundred sexually explicit images. That's fucked up. The argument for the decriminalization of child pornography goes as follows: You will actually deter pedophilia more by [I]decriminalizing the pornography,[/I] while increasing the punishment that actual pedophiles are dealt. This is [I]not[/I] the decriminalization of the creation of child pornography, the sexual abuse or exploitation of a minor, or any such thing. This is instead an argument that in terms of legal formality and criminal code, an overwhelming emphasis in terms of both punishment and focus is being given to the wrong part of the crime, in a way that actively makes the situation worse. Some background assumptions to that argument are that the pornographic content is actually an effective substitute for the actual injurious act, and that pedophiles are typically people who need psychiatric help, not criminal punishment. Some of this is at least backed up by the fact that pedophiles who have gone to prison and come out, typically become more predatory and dangerous. The additional fact that sex-criminal laws are draconian to the point that it's easier to [I]create a new identity or live off of the legal grid,[/I] than to live with a sex-crime conviction only gives weight to the argument. [B]I want to add one note, responding to a general argument I've picked up here:[/B] If you believe the criminality of child pornography serves as a method or measure to make society safer by taking pedophiles out of society, and 'treating' them, I cannot express in more strict terms that it is not the case. The current handling of the criminality of child pornography by courts world-wide only serves to demean and punish 'pedophiles' blindly, so that a person who has never even contemplated touching or harming a real child becomes categorically identical to someone who might have raped and murdered children. [I]That[/I] is in no way, justice.

Liberals

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49826179]Liberals[/QUOTE] Really valuable contribution to the conversation there!