Nintendo’s Public Relations Employee Alison Rapp Now Vocal for Pedophiles
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It was announced by her Twitter account that she is no longer with Nintendo, effective today.
[media]https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/715287409424871424[/media]
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;50035854]It was announced by her Twitter account that she is no longer with Nintendo, effective today.
[media]https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/715287409424871424[/media][/QUOTE]
Good, Nintendo doesn't need a pedo apologist representing them
[QUOTE=rapp]I am no longer a good, safe representative of Nintendo,[/QUOTE]
I seriously dont understand why someone who represented a children's company thought it was an alright idea to promote pedophila
Advocating that possession should be legal is what threw it over to unacceptable imo. That creates a demand for it and encourages production which harms children.
Though knowing Nintendo, the hint of anything like what she wrote about probably would've ended her employment.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50035897]I seriously dont understand why someone who represented a children's company thought it was an alright idea to promote pedophila[/QUOTE]
just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.
edit: i wasn't aware that alison rapp was a pr person so haha egg's on my face i guess. i still think this is horseshit tho.
i know everyone is gonna celebrate this like it's some sort of victory but campaigning to get getting private citizens removed from their job over some petty political disagreement is one of the worst trends in online activism i've seen. it's terrible. you could very well be endangering someone's life as well as their family, anyone who relies on them. having your primary source of income ripped out from under your feet is a hell of an experience, extremely scary.
but that doesn't matter because alison rapp made a paper that challenged the public's perception on a touchy social issue, right?
i don't really care about alison rapp or her politics. i'm sure someone will have the gall to spin this post in such a way that suggests i support pedophilia by proxy by saying that alison rapp shouldn't have been fired but what exactly about this ridiculous campaign is any better than doxing? at least with doxing people typically just get prank called, this was an actual, malicious campaign to get someone fired.
w/e. i think this is fucked up but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;50035854]It was announced by her Twitter account that she is no longer with Nintendo, effective today.
[media]https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/715287409424871424[/media][/QUOTE]
Why do I have the feeling that the games media is going to paint Nintendo as a villain when reporting this?
alison is of course gonna make this about gamergate and misogyny but this is very much an issue on both sides of the debate and i absolutely cannot stand it.
fuck ninjad
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.
i know everyone is gonna celebrate this like it's some sort of victory but campaigning to get getting private citizens removed from their job over some petty political disagreement is one of the worst trends in online activism i've seen. it's terrible. you could very well be endangering someone's life as well as their family, anyone who relies on them. having your primary source of income ripped out from under your feet is a hell of an experience, extremely scary.
but that doesn't matter because alison rapp made a paper that challenged the public's perception on a touchy social issue, right?
i don't really care about alison rapp or her politics. i'm sure someone will have the gall to spin this post in such a way that suggests i support pedophilia by proxy by saying that alison rapp shouldn't have been fired but what exactly about this ridiculous campaign is any better than doxing? at least with doxing people typically just get prank called, this was an actual, malicious campaign to get someone fired.
w/e. i think this is fucked up but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Rapp defending CP while working for a children's compnay is pretty much the equivalent of someone working for a Jewish organization and then publicly posting that the Holocaust wasn't as bad as people say it was and that Jews should just get over it.
Both should be fireable offenses because they negatively impact the company
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.
i know everyone is gonna celebrate this like it's some sort of victory but campaigning to get getting private citizens removed from their job over some petty political disagreement is one of the worst trends in online activism i've seen. it's terrible. you could very well be endangering someone's life as well as their family, anyone who relies on them. having your primary source of income ripped out from under your feet is a hell of an experience, extremely scary.
but that doesn't matter because alison rapp made a paper that challenged the public's perception on a touchy social issue, right?
i don't really care about alison rapp or her politics. i'm sure someone will have the gall to spin this post in such a way that suggests i support pedophilia by proxy by saying that alison rapp shouldn't have been fired but what exactly about this ridiculous campaign is any better than doxing? at least with doxing people typically just get prank called, this was an actual, malicious campaign to get someone fired.
w/e. i think this is fucked up but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
And literally no one cared when people did this to vocal GG supporters. I assume you cared about their jobs too, right? What about that guy who was harassed to all hell for wearing a shirt with women on it after just landing the rover on mars? Like it's just funny to me that people dive in to defend people like her, fine, that's your prerogative, but then you attack the concept of these things whilst being silent about how they affected people on the other side of a divisive issue.
didn't read your other post first, take my statement as a general one and not aimed at you. my bad.
[QUOTE=Fangz;50035962]Why do I have the feeling that the games media is going to paint Nintendo as a villain when reporting this?[/QUOTE]
There's more clicks in saying Nintendo is scum and villainy than saying that Nintendo made the right decision.
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist. [/QUOTE]
She was their PR person, and given her response to everything, she was pretty bad at her job. She insulted a lot of people with her twitter account and posted things in support of people that possessed child porn. This isn't advocating understanding for pedophiles, this is advocating for a crime that requires a child to be harmed.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50035982]And literally no one cared when people did this to vocal GG supporters. I assume you cared about their jobs too, right? What about that guy who was harassed to all hell for wearing a shirt with women on it after just landing the rover on mars? Like it's just funny to me that people dive in to defend people like her, fine, that's your prerogative, but then you attack the concept of these things whilst being silent about how they affected people on the other side of a divisive issue.
didn't read your other post first, take my statement as a general one and not aimed at you. my bad.[/QUOTE]
yeah, don't get me wrong about this, i'm not trying to say this is gamergate's fault etc etc etc. i did care about that dude, i thought that was ridiculous. it was heartbreaking to see him in tears. same goes to that dude who got fired over a [url=http://www.wired.com/2013/03/richards-affair-and-misogyny-in-tech/]joke about dongles[/url] (which was actually misheard by the person who called him out for it in the first place). i'm saying i really don't approve of an organized campaign to get /anyone/ fired from their job because, well, simply put:
it's the internet.
you don't meet these people 1:1, you don't see their faces, they're just "the enemy" to a group of people. they don't consider that said person may have many things going on in their life and that losing their job could be catastrophic. all empathy is lost for that person.
i hate that sorta line of thinking and it's incredibly prevalent lately thanks to what i can only describe as a "call-out culture", i guess. just let people live their lives, man.
[QUOTE=Cliff2;50036020]She was their PR person, and given her response to everything, she was pretty bad at her job. She insulted a lot of people with her twitter account and posted things in support of people that possessed child porn. This isn't advocating understanding for pedophiles, this is advocating for a crime that requires a child to be harmed.[/QUOTE]
even so, she made an effort to seperate her opinions from her employer. that's why her twitter bio says "opinions are my own" and so many others do. i'm a pretty big advocate of the separation of employee and private citizen. when you're not on the clock i don't think your employer should have /anything/ to do with you. this kinda violates that and it's partially what bothers me.
[QUOTE=KillRay;50036074]Speak publicly for the company*. She wasn't speaking for Nintendo with her opinions.[/QUOTE]
yeah, this is sort of an important aspect about the whole thing.
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.[/QUOTE]
It kinda does,
That's why only PR allowed to speak
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50036049]It kinda does,
That's why only PR allowed to speak[/QUOTE]
Speak publicly for the company*. She wasn't speaking for Nintendo with her opinions.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;50035854]It was announced by her Twitter account that she is no longer with Nintendo, effective today.
[media]https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/715287409424871424[/media][/QUOTE]
She really fucked up
Looks like an indie developer has cancelled his first Wii U game over this:
[media]http://twitter.com/necrosofty/status/715295377230995457[/media]
[QUOTE=KillRay;50036074]Speak publicly for the company*. She wasn't speaking for Nintendo with her opinions.[/QUOTE]
Like it or not, you do represent the company that hires you. If you say or do something that could make them look bad, you can easily be fired for it. If you're endorsing pedophilia, said company might want to remove any connections with you. Parents wouldn't like to hear that a pedophile is working at their children's favorite company.
[QUOTE=Fangz;50036096]Looks like an indie developer has cancelled his first Wii U game over this:
[media]http://twitter.com/necrosofty/status/715295377230995457[/media][/QUOTE]
"because GG didn't like her"
Wow, the bullshit is strong with this one
[quote]you don't meet these people 1:1, you don't see their faces, they're just "the enemy" to a group of people. they don't consider that said person may have many things going on in their life and that losing their job could be catastrophic. all empathy is lost for that person.
i hate that sorta line of thinking and it's incredibly prevalent lately thanks to what i can only describe as a "call-out culture", i guess. just let people live their lives, man.[/QUOTE]
the internet tends shows no mercy to people who feel "wronged them". people have no problem doing
as much damage possible to someones reputation because at the end of the day they don't know them and don't care how much it will affect that person in the personal life, and that's pretty fucked up.
it reminded me of that model who became infamous for a shopped plastic surgery ad and how ended up costing her both her entire career and her reputations (to the point becoming suicidal), all for something that wasn't even her fault.
i do have a legitimate pity for people who become viral targets of the internet, the fame/infamy just isn't worth all the harassment of people who don''t even bother you seeing you as a person, only as person who did something wrong in their eyes and must be burned at the stake
[QUOTE=Fangz;50036096]Looks like an indie developer has cancelled his first Wii U game over this:
[media]http://twitter.com/necrosofty/status/715295377230995457[/media][/QUOTE]
That's a great way of tanking your company's prospects of getting a game published.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;50036111]That's a great way of tanking your company's prospects of getting a game published.[/QUOTE]
This is the kind of experience Nintendo is missing out on having on their console
[video=youtube;1IkhZrsdoK0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IkhZrsdoK0[/video]
Skip to 0:33, there's only like 5 seconds of gameplay in this 1 minute long trailer because more than that and it would be even more obvious that the game was complete shit.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50036151]This is the kind of experience Nintendo is missing out on having on their console
[video=youtube;1IkhZrsdoK0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IkhZrsdoK0[/video]
Skip to 0:33, there's only like 5 seconds of gameplay in this 1 minute long trailer because more than that and it would be even more obvious that the game was complete shit.[/QUOTE]
This looks like Lethal League for people who hate fun
[QUOTE=Fangz;50036096]Looks like an indie developer has cancelled his first Wii U game over this:
[media]http://twitter.com/necrosofty/status/715295377230995457[/media][/QUOTE]
good
he can take his shit with him
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50036026]even so, she made an effort to seperate her opinions from her employer. that's why her twitter bio says "opinions are my own" and so many others do. i'm a pretty big advocate of the separation of employee and private citizen. when you're not on the clock i don't think your employer should have /anything/ to do with you. this kinda violates that and it's partially what bothers me.[/QUOTE]
I feel the same way pretty much up to a point(Advocating or admitting to criminal activity), but her line of work isn't conducive to that. If instead on her personal twitter she had been saying "The Wii U is actually garbage, get a PS4", it's going to affect nintendo's bottom line because people are going to see "That person works at nintendo and even they think their products are terrible".
If it had just been the paper she wrote, I would be far more sympathetic to her. But her actions towards customers and the outright advocation for possession of child porn kind of dug her own grave.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50036101]Like it or not, you do represent the company that hires you. If you say or do something that could make them look bad, you can easily be fired for it. If you're endorsing pedophilia, said company might want to remove any connections with you. Parents wouldn't like to hear that a pedophile is working at their children's favorite company.[/QUOTE]
Oh I realize that. I'm saying thay all personal beliefs should represent the person first and the company second. Nintendo doesn't support pedophiles just because she was hired.
She should be known for her problems, but Nintendo shouldn't be known as the pedophile company because of it.
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.
edit: i wasn't aware that alison rapp was a pr person so haha egg's on my face i guess. i still think this is horseshit tho.
i know everyone is gonna celebrate this like it's some sort of victory but campaigning to get getting private citizens removed from their job over some petty political disagreement is one of the worst trends in online activism i've seen. it's terrible. you could very well be endangering someone's life as well as their family, anyone who relies on them. having your primary source of income ripped out from under your feet is a hell of an experience, extremely scary.
but that doesn't matter because alison rapp made a paper that challenged the public's perception on a touchy social issue, right?
i don't really care about alison rapp or her politics. i'm sure someone will have the gall to spin this post in such a way that suggests i support pedophilia by proxy by saying that alison rapp shouldn't have been fired but what exactly about this ridiculous campaign is any better than doxing? at least with doxing people typically just get prank called, this was an actual, malicious campaign to get someone fired.
w/e. i think this is fucked up but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
I really think there is a strong distinction to be made between being fired because you are bad at your job, and being fired because some idiots on the internet spammed your employer with requests to fire you over internet politics. For example, gamergate wants lots of games journalists fired, but not because of political disagreements that have nothing to do with their job, but because of direct ethical violations they've committed while on the job. I think this particular example, advocating legalizing some aspects of pedophilia while working in PR at nintendo falls well within the "fired for being bad at your job" category. Her job is public relations and she is creating PR problems by associating nintendo with pedophilia instead of solving them.
It took 4 weeks but hey good to know she got canned. :v:
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;50035948]just being hired by a company does not mean you automatically represent them, that's why PR people exist.
edit: i wasn't aware that alison rapp was a pr person so haha egg's on my face i guess. i still think this is horseshit tho.
i know everyone is gonna celebrate this like it's some sort of victory but campaigning to get getting private citizens removed from their job over some petty political disagreement is one of the worst trends in online activism i've seen. it's terrible. you could very well be endangering someone's life as well as their family, anyone who relies on them. having your primary source of income ripped out from under your feet is a hell of an experience, extremely scary.
but that doesn't matter because alison rapp made a paper that challenged the public's perception on a touchy social issue, right?
i don't really care about alison rapp or her politics. i'm sure someone will have the gall to spin this post in such a way that suggests i support pedophilia by proxy by saying that alison rapp shouldn't have been fired but what exactly about this ridiculous campaign is any better than doxing? at least with doxing people typically just get prank called, this was an actual, malicious campaign to get someone fired.
w/e. i think this is fucked up but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
So, let's say you have a kid, and your kid is hanging out with Allison Rapp.
You would feel fine knowing she is all about legalizing Child Porn and Pedophilia?
I know I wouldn't feel fine, I wouldn't even want to do participate in anything Nintendo related besides buying their games.
If I went to E3 and I saw Allison Rapp calling us over to be interviewed, I would walk off.
I don't think Nintendo would want that, when parents start walking off, avoiding to be near Allison Rapp. They would lose potential sales, and even business.
Here is another scenario.
Let's say you are a Dev, who heard about this, and you are having a meeting with Nintendo and Allison is in the interview, would you feel comfortable knowing that a Pedo Apologist and Pro-Child Porn is in the same room as you? No, you wouldn't. How about if that person was working at a company that markets towards kids? If you didn't before, you probably would.
I would take the stuff she has said and put them on the table and consider on what I do and say in the meeting, especially if we are making a deal about a video game.
Don't worry folks, she just got localized.
Creepy pedophilia isnt marketable to a western audience.
I don't know what she expected. If you have that kind of opinion and you work for Nintendo why not just keep it to yourself so you can keep your job? Pedo rights must have really meant a lot to her.
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