[quote]Johnny Rodriguez, who was visiting the New York Eye and Ear Infirmary nearby, said he and three other people alerted nearby police officers that the owner of the dog was in danger of being hit by traffic. "He was having a seizure, I saw him lying down on the ground and his head was twitching and shaking." The two officers who responded called for backup ("I guess they didn't have the training or something") and the dog began growling as officers approached the man.
"I told one of the cops, 'Hey, that dog is growling, be careful,' because they were getting pretty close," Rodriguez says. "I used to have a pit bull and that's just how they are, they protect their owners." Rodriguez thought that one woman had placed herself too closely behind the man as she was observing what was happening. "It grabbed her pants, but it didn't bite her, then the dog starts running at the cop."
Contrary to previous reports, Rodriguez, who lives in Bay Ridge, says that police used mace only after the dog was shot. "If they used it, I didn't see it, I was there the whole time though." You can see the officer on the right discharge his mace shortly after the dog is shot. Rodriguez says officers took him to the 9th Precinct where they uploaded his video "for evidence." Rodriguez adds that he did not witness police kick the man or use physical force to attempt to rouse him.
"It's a tragedy, but I may have done the same thing that the cop did. If you got a pit bull coming at you, I don't know if you stand there and get bit or use your gun," Rodriguez says. "The dog was protecting the owner, that's what it does."
Star is still alive and remains in the care of the Animal Care & Control facility on East 110th Street. Attempts to locate Star's owner have been unsuccessful so far. The Local East Village spoke to friends of the dog's owner, who police identify as Lech Stankiewicz, and they said that Star has a history of being overprotective of Stankiewicz.
“Most of us figured out that when he’s passed out, whether he’s overdosing or not, leave him alone,” the friend, Brandon Verna, said. “If he’s going to die, call an ambulance and have them deal with it because no one wants to get bitten.”[/quote]
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Video is in the source and it does show the dog being shot. View at your own risk.
Rah, wouldn't tasing it have been a better idea? Do these cops even carry tasers?
Some day...
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Here is a comment from another site that published the article:
[quote]Priority of life...before we can check on or provide medical care for the owner...who was in an apparent medical emergency, the dog must be dealt with. No different than us kicking in a door to provide medical attention, or breaking out car windows. In the moment of an emergency, things meant to protect you, which serve no immediate medical purpose, are hindrances and obstacles to us fulfilling our mission to save and preserve life.
The dog was doing what it was trained to do, what it instinctively knew to do...so was the officer. I am glad all involved will be okay.[/quote]
As bad as it seems if a pitbull is running at me and I have a gun, it is going down, not taking a chance.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;37256851]Rah, wouldn't tasing it have been a better idea? Do these cops even carry tasers?[/QUOTE]
Tasers aren't reliable or tend to be inaccurate in many situations, guns neutralize a threat easier.
Jesus fuck I am so fucking tired. I am sorry.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;37256851]Rah, wouldn't tasing it have been a better idea? Do these cops even carry tasers?[/QUOTE]
At a dog running fast at you? I'd doubt a taser would even be remotely reliable in that situation and are tasers even safe to use on animals?
[QUOTE=Soldier32;37257136]At a dog running fast at you? I'd doubt a taser would even be remotely reliable in that situation and are tasers even safe to use on animals?[/QUOTE]
Well...
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[QUOTE=Talkbox;37256851]Rah, wouldn't tasing it have been a better idea? Do these cops even carry tasers?[/QUOTE]
The dog was moving too fast, and there's a strong chance the taser would have just pissed the dog off even more.
[QUOTE=smurfy;37256878]Some day...
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I accidentally read the title like that.
ANIMAL CRUETIE!!!!1
[QUOTE=#sitonmyface;37257265]ANIMAL CRUETIE!!!!1[/QUOTE]
Funny how the idiots in the crowd started screaming at the officers when they shot the animal, even if they had just seen it charge at them. And then they started talking about 'protests' and such when the police ordered them away. This is why I can only sympathize with officers in most situations, even if others think they do use too much force.
Watch out before Clementine sees this thread :downs:
Well they needed to get to the man to help him out, the dog was a barrier. Not saying it was justified, just the circumstances...
[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;37257401]Well they needed to get to the man to help him out, the dog was a barrier. Not saying it was justified, just the circumstances...[/QUOTE]
"not saying it was justified, but it was"
I blame the woman who got to close. Seriously, why was she THAT close?
So the dog survived. That's some good news.
[QUOTE=garychencool;37257517]I blame the woman who got to close. Seriously, why was she THAT close?[/QUOTE]
i'm a civilian nothing bad can happen to me!!!!
Those dogs can rip your hand off, I would have done the same thing. It's just a fucking dog.
[editline]16th August 2012[/editline]
And jesus christ the crowd was obnoxious.
[QUOTE=Scot;37258150]Those dogs can rip your hand off[/QUOTE]
So can any other medium-sized dog, it's not just restricted to pitbulls.
[editline]15th August 2012[/editline]
You've never been around pitbulls, have you?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37258208]You've never been around pitbulls, have you?[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything?
[QUOTE=Soldier32;37257136] and are tasers even safe to use on animals?[/QUOTE]
As opposed to what, a gun?
God, what the fuck is wrong with people, yelling "pigs" and shit at the cops because the dog charged him. The woman seemed to be more upset over the dog getting shot than the fact someone was laying there dying on the street.
Not only did he shoot it, but then his partner proceed to mace it..
Guy looks like he might have been a bum, so there's no telling if that dog had it's rabies shots, cops not going to take a chance of letting it bite everyone.
And the dog is still alive so there's that.
[QUOTE=Dantai;37258324]Not only did he shoot it, but then his partner proceed to mace it..
Guy looks like he might have been a bum, so there's no telling if that dog had it's rabies shots, cops not going to take a chance of letting it bite everyone.[/QUOTE]
He was macing it about the time it was shot. The dog was still moving pretty good.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;37258268]As opposed to what, a gun?[/QUOTE]
As opposed to when they're used on people?
Maybe a taser is lethal for a small animal like a dog. If it is it's pointless to use it since it isn't as accurate as a gun.
[QUOTE=Scot;37258258]What does that have to do with anything?[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying, as what the police said in the article, was just doing it's job. He was trying to defend his owner.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37258395]I'm just saying, as what the police said in the article, was just doing it's job. He was trying to defend his owner.[/QUOTE]
Yeah which means he's very likely to attack.
One thing some departments actually hand officers during training/class is a list of dog breeds with their pictures and information. If you see any of the listed dogs "charging" at you or acting as an immediate hostile threat, then you're suppose to shoot them. Well you're allowed to. I mean you don't have to but you should, I guess.
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