Pink Gun Mistaken For Toy, 3 Year Old S.C. Boy Killed
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[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;39488826]ah yes, let's debate the aesthetics of the gun when a child's died
[editline]6th February 2013[/editline]
if the family didn't have a gun this wouldn't have happened, wy would you ever let something like this into your house[/QUOTE]
No, this wouldn't have happened if the parents weren't stupid and left the gun out. There are several guns in my house and my sisters never killed themselves
way to give responsible gun owners a bad name :(
[QUOTE=Tobylol;39486770]Why would anyone want a pink gun? Like it's some kind of accessory. It's pretty sick if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
the same trolls that put dogs in purses and are on a vomit diet.
[QUOTE=Carbon123;39488859][img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ah1MuaT7IDI/UDgJVdovjZI/AAAAAAAAtOE/kq5Wg-upjW0/w497-h373/pink%2Bassault.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
auuuuugggh
[QUOTE=Tobylol;39486770]Why would anyone want a pink gun? Like it's some kind of accessory. It's pretty sick if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
Maybe the gun belonged to a female who liked it as a shooting range, fun gun.
That being said, it was a poor choice for the parents to leave the gun accessible to small children.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;39488877]No, this wouldn't have happened if the parents weren't stupid and left the gun out. There are several guns in my house and my sisters never killed themselves[/QUOTE]
What are you disagreeing with him for? You can't refute his statement; if the family had not owned the gun, this would not have happened. That's fact.
Improper gun safety should come with hefty fines and even imprisonment for gross negligence.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39488962]What are you disagreeing with him for? You can't refute his statement; if the family had not owned the gun, this would not have happened. That's fact.[/QUOTE]
Alright that is true, but just getting a gun doesn't mean everyone will kill themselves with it. You can have both a gun and not kill yourself if you aren't a jackass with it and keep it somewhere safe.
[QUOTE=Zambiesv2;39486771]No gun case, easily taken by small children? They make all firearm owners look bad.[/QUOTE]
lol, maybe in the eyes of an idiot
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39488962]What are you disagreeing with him for? You can't refute his statement; if the family had not owned the gun, this would not have happened. That's fact.[/QUOTE]
I think what he's disagreeing with is Monk's solution being the [i]only[/i] solution. It's true, if the family hadn't owned the gun this wouldn't have happened. But you also can't refute that if the gun had been stored properly (and also legally, you aren't allowed to store loaded guns afaik), this would also not have happened.
[QUOTE=Rents;39486804]And the ammo locked up somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
I doubt the kids loaded it. It was already pre-loaded.
Fuckin rednecks
[QUOTE=tyanet;39487653]It's not the fact that it's pink that bothers anyone. The gun being pink is a symptom of a problem with a lot of gun owners, and that's that they don't act as if they're dangerous. It gives the impression that they think it's a cute thing to carry around as an accessory, like a purse. And it's not.
Gun owners (these kind) need to realize that guns are extremely dangerous weapons. They're not toys. They're not tools. They're not some thing you carry around for fashion. They're weapons. They're items of utility, and their purpose is to harm or kill living things. If they recognized that, then they probably wouldn't have gotten a gun like that, and if they did, it would be kept in a safe location.
These people make us responsible gun owners look like irresponsible assholes, and should be kept from owning or using firearms.[/QUOTE]
Color is not an accurate indicator of whether a person takes the danger of firearms seriously. It's just a paint job. Using this same logic, you could say that people with pink cars don't take driving as seriously as people who drive black or wood paneled cars, which is absurd.
I agree with you entirely that people who leave weapons unsecured where children play are the worst kind of negligent, and I agree that firearms aren't something to be used as a fashion accessory. But why can't I also change the visual appearance of the item that I have the utmost respect for the danger of?
reminds me of the gun in K&L2
[img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/40/Ugly_sig.jpg/500px-Ugly_sig.jpg[/img]
[editline]6th February 2013[/editline]
[img]http://www.imfdb.org/images/5/5b/Special_AK_KLDD.jpg[/img]
and this one as well, why not
And it was loaded too?
What the fuck?
if it was an m60 this wouldnt have happened
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;39489092](and also legally, you aren't allowed to store loaded guns afaik)[/QUOTE]
No, i'm not aware of any jurisdictions within the US where that's the case.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;39489766]No, i'm not aware of any jurisdictions within the US where that's the case.[/QUOTE]
I think California and New York might have some laws regarding secure storage, or maybe they were just trying to.
It was a disaster waiting for happen. It's ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Daemonshadow;39489569]But why can't I also change the visual appearance of the item that I have the utmost respect for the danger of?[/QUOTE]
Because children can mistake them for toys. Most people are wise enough to be careful even with airsoft guns, but children don't. That's the real danger.
Probably hidden under a pillow, ready to fire in case of an emergency.
Is anyone else noticing a huge amount of gun related news in the last couple of weeks?
[QUOTE=JJ Webby;39487574]Sure do. I believe firearms are tools, much like knives, but when people like this are so careless and lives are taken there's always someone who will blame the guns. Also the sheer stupidity just baffles me.
Basically, with all the talk of gun control, owning firearms wouldn't be as much of a problem if fuckheads like these weren't so irresponsible.[/QUOTE]
It should be mandatory to participate in some sort of gun safety class before you can own a gun. Just being able to go buy a gun even if you have no clue what you're doing is just fucked up.
[QUOTE=T553412;39489932]It was a disaster waiting for happen. It's ridiculous.
Because children can mistake them for toys. Most people are wise enough to be careful even with airsoft guns, but children don't. That's the real danger.[/QUOTE]
Which is where parents need to intervene. Remember when I said "I agree with you entirely that people who leave weapons unsecured where children play are the worst kind of negligent?"
Firearms, pink or otherwise, need to be kept out of reach of children. Changing the color of the firearm isn't going to change whether or not idiotic adults are going to secure their firearms, and it isn't going to change the inability of children to comprehend the gravity firearms handling. This very easily could have happened with a black firearm. Pink, black, green, or bright safety orange, children need to be taught to get an an adult should they encounter something that might be a gun.
The negligence of certain adults regarding children and firearms safety should not affect whether I'm able to paint my gun a certain color, as a person who lives where no children are present, and firearms are stored separately from ammunition.
Man this is so avoidable, people like this annoy the shit out of me.
If you have children around lock your fucking guns up, it's not hard. My grandfather has over 45 guns in his house and after helping raise me, my brother, and all my cousins not one of us got hold of one because they were all locked up and unloaded.
I forced my friend to lock up his guns because he has a kid, he thought telling his kid not to touch them was good enough. It's simple though, kids are curious the only way to keep them away from something is to make it inaccessible.
What kind of fuck-tard company manufactures these? Seriously, while in the board meeting when they presented this idea did a single person not speak up and say "this kinda resembles a toy. Is that ok?"
Or is it that the people running this company are in fact a bunch of children in suits who think they are making toys?
Fuck.
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;39490271]Man this is so avoidable, people like this annoy the shit out of me.
If you have children around lock your fucking guns up, it's not hard. My grandfather has over 45 guns in his house and after helping raise me, my brother, and all my cousins not one of us got hold of one because they were all locked up and unloaded.
I forced my friend to lock up his guns because he has a kid, he thought telling his kid not to touch them was good enough. It's simple though, kids are curious the only way to keep them away from something is to make it inaccessible.[/QUOTE]
This curiosity is why it doesn't matter what color the gun is. Black, pink, or zebra striped, children are going to be curious. I'm not sure why so many people are having such a hard time with the idea of securing their guns.
First we have little girls being suspended for a piece of paper that vaguely looks like a gun, to toy guns being confused for real ones, to real ones being confused for toy ones.
Fantastic world we live in.
[QUOTE=Digivee;39490374]First we have little girls being suspended for a piece of paper that vaguely looks like a gun, to toy guns being confused for real ones, to real ones being confused for toy ones.
Fantastic world we live in.[/QUOTE]
I know, right?! Why can't we go back to the good ol' days of swords and slaying mystical dragons? ;_;
holy shit i live in greenville south carolina
this doesn't surprise me
[QUOTE=Digivee;39490374]First we have little girls being suspended for a piece of paper that vaguely looks like a gun, to toy guns being confused for real ones, to real ones being confused for toy ones.
Fantastic world we live in.[/QUOTE]
In all honest, this article was really spun. It does not matter if it was pink, red or any other color. The kids would have been playing with it no matter what...in the article it said they were in the other room playing with it. Seems like to me they knew damn well fine it was a real gun. Sadly enough though parent is going to regret this all her life. ALL she had to do is put a lock on it - Trigger lock, a lock that feeds though the slide and magazine well, or put it in a lockbox/safe.
wait are you trying to tell me that irresponsible firearm ownership leads to unfortunate mishaps
[QUOTE=aznz888;39486865]what i'm curious about is, how the hell did a 3 & 7 year old operate the gun? was it just left cocked?
if any of you havent shot a gun before, racking a 1911's slide requires considerable strength. while it's not herculean by any set of standards, a child shouldnt have the power to cock a pistol.[/QUOTE]
If it was left cocked and locked I'm sure a 7 year old could take the safety off.
I have a memory from when i was little and i was round my friends house and annoying his older sister, she got really angry or something and we ran away and hid under the bed in his spare room. It was dark and i kicked something metal behind me so i checked that i hadn't broken it or whatever and tried to pick it up and felt a trigger. We turned on the light and saw it was a double barrelled shotgun, we were so scared we put it back straight away and i was terrified of that room from then on.
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