Fat-shaming may curb obesity - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeke129;39346008]Just like how social stigma against mental illness has fixed mental illness right up eh[/QUOTE] because you can cure yourself of all mental illnesses if you just eat fewer calories than you burn

[QUOTE=Lemonator;39348248]being obese already is self harm [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] except this actually works, many people changed from skinny phaggots to ripped kunts[/QUOTE] and all the rest of them just got really depressed and lost a lot of their sense of self worth because they were told that their mental health had made them bad people [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=cccritical;39348373]because you can cure yourself of all mental illnesses if you just eat fewer calories than you burn[/QUOTE] that is so far off the point he was making I'm actually astounded

[QUOTE=Maloof?;39348384] that is so far off the point he was making I'm actually astounded[/QUOTE] woah I just reread his post and I read it completely wrong the first time shit um

You know how to REALLY fix the overweight issue is to make healthy foods cheaper than unhealthy foods but I must be a socialist or something

[QUOTE=seroyal223;39347700]At the end of the day both of these issues have the same solutions: living a healthy lifestyle. Eating healthy, cutting down stress and getting a good amount of exercise and fresh air everyday is really the best thing you can do for yourself, unfortunately a lot of people aren't in a state where they can even realize this[/QUOTE] Surely not mental illness in general, cause those things you listed aren't going to make the voices and delusions go away :v:

[QUOTE=RichyZ;39348434]also i wouldn't doubt that most people in the thread going "fat people are dumb and stupid" are below the age of 15, have somewhat rapid metabolisms, and do the same shit as fat people, but can get away with it because of age[/QUOTE] I fully agree with this; I used to be really skinny. I had a very, very slightly round belly, but otherwise I was a stick. I could eat a plate piled with food and not gain anything. But ever since (coincidentally) my 21st birthday I've been putting on weight noticeably. It's definitely made me look at my lifestyle a lot more closely

Just gonna put this out here. I'm 140 kg and this fat shaming thing doesn't work at all. All it does is make me feel less than human, like something to just be made fun of. It doesn't motivate me to lose my weight at all. If you wanna see people lose weight, how about you put a little effort into it yourself, curb your bigotry, shut up, and let more positive influences take over that person's life. If there's anyone here who actually HATES fat people, well I hope you're ashamed, because congratulations, you are a horrible person. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] You know, while we're at it, how about we hate skinny people who eat a lot but have a really good metabolism! Oh, what's that? You mean they're not ugly like fat people are and so we shouldn't hate them? Oh...

I've had the same experience as Maloof? It is a lie to say that skinny people who have good metabolism are just blessed and they can eat anything they want. You get just a -little- older and shit goes all to hell. That we can eat a lot without consequence is just not true, it doesn't hold any water. I've always been skinny and nowadays I have to watch what I eat and what I do just as much as anyone else if I don't want to start looking like Augustus Gloop. When you're used to weighing 100lbs your whole life then suddenly you're 21 and your thighs are touching, not fucking cool mate. And I don't think that anyone here is claiming to hate fat people, or that fat people are dumb and stupid. At the very most, maybe we hate the patterns of behavior that cause these problems for people, but the same can be said of any compulsion.

The time in my life when I was "shamed" about being overweight was the time when I started to gain the most. Being insulted for being fat did not inspire me to change my lifestyle it made me depressed, cynical, and aggressive. I have been losing weight for a few years now mostly due to thyroid medication, but I also think that a lot of it is that I am in a better state of mind than I have been in the past. Shaming can lead to depression, when you are depressed you seek easy comfort (for some people in the form of food) and become less social (which makes you less active). Also it is not only people who are actively making bad choices who have to deal with ridicule. Fat people who are trying to improve their lifestyle are often mocked whether it is while working out or attempting to eat healthier (which makes them less likely to try).

This is the fucking purpose of bullying in a societal sense. No seriously, the reason bullying is a thing people are compelled to do is to correct 'flaws' in others to make them conform to a more standardized pattern of behavior and appearance

[QUOTE=J Paul;39348687]I've had the same experience as Maloof? It is a lie to say that skinny people who have good metabolism are just blessed and they can eat anything they want. You get just a -little- older and shit goes all to hell. That we can eat a lot without consequence is just not true, it doesn't hold any water. I've always been skinny and nowadays I have to watch what I eat and what I do just as much as anyone else if I don't want to start looking like Augustus Gloop. When you're used to weighing 100lbs your whole life then suddenly you're 21 and your thighs are touching, not fucking cool mate. And I don't think that anyone here is claiming to hate fat people, or that fat people are dumb and stupid. At the very most, maybe we hate the patterns of behavior that cause these problems for people, but the same can be said of any compulsion.[/QUOTE] How can you claim that metabolism has nothing to do with it when you yourself have an anecdote about how you used to be able to eat what you wanted and now that you're older you can't? [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=phygon;39347903]Chick peas, lentils and rice can get you all the food you need to live off of for about five dollars a day And you can add a lot to them to flavor them and add more nutrition, but as a baseline you can live off of ithem[/QUOTE] What a boring existence. Everybody who enjoys life frequently does things that are unhealthy or dangerous. Pot, skydiving, gaming all evening, eating high-calorie food. Except only one of those in excess changes your appearance so only one is stigmatized on facepunch

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39346188]Yes, but they [i]do[/i] have the choice to stop shovelling food down their gullet.[/QUOTE] obesity is caused primarily by lack of exercise not eating, do you people seriously believe people are just eating all day as the norm?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;39349051]How can you claim that metabolism has nothing to do with it when you yourself have an anecdote about how you used to be able to eat what you wanted and now that you're older you can't?[/QUOTE] Sorry if I wasn't clear in my meaning, I meant that after a certain age, metabolism doesn't play a role anymore because it goes away. You're right, metabolism is everything when you're young, but we are not forever young, and lots of internal switches seem to get flipped when you get a little older.

[QUOTE=J Paul;39349231]Sorry if I wasn't clear in my meaning, I meant that after a certain age, metabolism doesn't play a role anymore because it goes away. You're right, metabolism is everything when you're young, but we are not forever young, and lots of internal switches seem to get flipped when you get a little older.[/QUOTE] nope metabolism still matters a shit ton after your teenage years as to how your body deals with it

I believe we should just do this to people who are extremely fat but talk about dieting all day long.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39349342]nope metabolism still matters a shit ton after your teenage years as to how your body deals with it[/QUOTE] Metabolism varies little between people of similar height and weight. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/healthy_living/your_weight/medical_myths.shtml[/url]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;39349051]What a boring existence. Everybody who enjoys life frequently does things that are unhealthy or dangerous. Pot, skydiving, gaming all evening, eating high-calorie food. Except only one of those in excess changes your appearance so only one is stigmatized on facepunch[/QUOTE] I like this. People need to start thinking beyond "that guy is fat and ugly i hate him!!!"

[QUOTE=MBB;39349409]Metabolism varies little between people of similar height and weight. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/healthy_living/your_weight/medical_myths.shtml[/url][/QUOTE] And this implies it's not important? Last I checked we weren't a species of uniform people's.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39349229]obesity is caused primarily by lack of exercise not eating, do you people seriously believe people are just eating all day as the norm?[/QUOTE] Also eating at the wrong time and eating the wrong things - not even what we would see as 'unhealthy' food or junk food. When I say that I put on weight, it wasn't because I was eating all day. I was having a small breakfast and coffee, then not eating anything until like 9-10 at night when I'd have a massive dinner that consisted largely of white rice, which is a massive source of carbohydrates and therefore energy. Eating such a lot of energy food at that time of day when the metabolism is slowing down in preparation for sleepy time will pack on weight like nothing

[QUOTE=MBB;39349409]Metabolism varies little between people of similar height and weight. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/healthy_living/your_weight/medical_myths.shtml[/url][/QUOTE] You know that kind of proves his argument right low metabolism people generally have a higher weight higher metabolism goes to lower weight

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39349229]obesity is caused primarily by lack of exercise not eating, do you people seriously believe people are just eating all day as the norm?[/QUOTE] I think you've mixed that up, your diet is far more important than exercise. I would say the most important things are: proper sleeping patterns/rest, water, food, then exercise. I think you're also a bit confused about the eating habits of modern man, especially in first world countries, never has humanity consumed so much, and of such poor quality. Overeating of any kind is horrible and even worse when the stuff we tend to overeat are processed foods filled with additives, etc. Practically everyone is "out-of-the-norm" when you consider the average lifestyle, diet of first world countries and realize that humans are animals meant to have two meals a day, three meals at most, consisting of fruits before noon, primarily salads (literally just leafy greens and perhaps a tomato/celery, no condiments) throughout the day, and to supplement everything you just incorporate throughout the weeks, a new thing everyday, a bean, nut, seed, etc. People tend to fail to understand what food combining is and how digestion works in general. Honestly, the way we nourish our bodies in this age can only be described as atrocious. [quote] "Barely two centuries ago," says Major Austin, "the first meal of the day in England was taken about noon. Breakfast was an unrecognized meal and it originated in the practice of ladies taking an early dish of chocolate before rising. The ancient Greeks--the finest of people, physically and mentally, that ever lived--ate but two meals a day. The same was true of the ancient Hebrews and it is the custom of some of the best fighting races in India today." [/quote] [quote] There are sound physiological reasons for eating foods in compatible combinations. In other words, some foods, if mixed in the digestive system, will cause distress. The principles of food combining are dictated by digestive chemistry. Different foods are digested differently... Starchy foods require an alkaline digestive medium which is supplied initially in the mouth by the enzyme ptyalin; Protein foods require an acid medium for digestion- hydrochloric acid. As any student of chemistry will assure you, acids and bases (alkalis) neutralize each other. If you eat a starch with a protein, digestion is impaired or completely arrested. The undigested food mass can cause various kinds of digestive disorders. Undigested food becomes soil for bacteria which ferment and decompose it. Its by products are poisonous, one of which, alcohol, is a narcotic that destroys or inhibits nerve function. It plays havoc with nerves of the digestive tract, suspending their vital action such that constipation may well be a result. [/quote] [quote] 1. Eat acids and starches at separate meals. Acids neutralize the alkaline medium required for starch digestion and the result is fermentation and indigestion. 2. Eat protein foods and carbohydrate foods at separate meals. Protein foods require an acid medium for digestion. 3. Eat but one kind of protein food at a meal. 4. Eat proteins and acid foods at separate meals. The acids of acid foods inhibit the secretion of the digestive acids required for protein digestion. Undigested protein putrefies in bacterial decomposition and produces some potent poisons. 5. Eat fats and proteins at separate meals. Some foods, especially nuts, are over 50% fat and require hours for digestion. 6. Eat sugars (fruits) and proteins at separate meals. 7. Eat sugars (fruits) and starchy foods at separate meals. Fruits undergo no digestion in the stomach and are held up if eaten with foods that require digestion in the stomach. 8. Eat melons alone. They combine with almost no other food. 9. Desert the desserts. Eaten on top of meals they lie heavy on the stomach, requiring no digestion there, and ferment. Bacteria turn them into alcohols and vinegars and acetic acids.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Cruma;39349612]I think you've mixed that up, your diet is far more important than exercise. I would say the most important things are: proper sleeping patterns/rest, water, food, then exercise. I think you're also a bit confused about the eating habits of modern man, especially in first world countries, never has humanity consumed so much, and of such poor quality. Overeating of any kind is horrible and even worse when the stuff we tend to overeat are processed foods filled with additives, etc. Practically everyone is "out-of-the-norm" when you consider the average lifestyle, diet of first world countries and realize that humans are animals meant to have two meals a day, three meals at most, consisting of fruits before noon, primarily salads (literally just leafy greens and perhaps a tomato/celery, no condiments) throughout the day, and to supplement everything you just incorporate throughout the weeks, a new thing everyday, a bean, nut, seed, etc. People tend to fail to understand what food combining is and how digestion works in general. Honestly, the way we nourish our bodies in this age can only be described as atrocious.[/QUOTE] Also wholegrain that shit up Brown rice might not taste as good as white but it's a whole lot better for you in terms of digestion; there's a lot of fibre in there.

[QUOTE=Riller;39346023]Somewhat different, I'd say. You know. Because mental illness isn't caused by shoddy lifestyle.[/QUOTE] As a person who has become pretty mentally unstable due to poor lifestyle I disagree.

check your privilege cis thin scum

[QUOTE=elevate;39348527]Just gonna put this out here. I'm 140 kg and this fat shaming thing doesn't work at all. All it does is make me feel less than human, like something to just be made fun of. It doesn't motivate me to lose my weight at all. If you wanna see people lose weight, how about you put a little effort into it yourself, curb your bigotry, shut up, and let more positive influences take over that person's life. If there's anyone here who actually HATES fat people, well I hope you're ashamed, because congratulations, you are a horrible person. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] You know, while we're at it, how about we hate skinny people who eat a lot but have a really good metabolism! Oh, what's that? You mean they're not ugly like fat people are and so we shouldn't hate them? Oh...[/QUOTE] You are being to dramatic and emotional that you are not seeing how pointless all your "non-human" bullshit is. Who gives a fuck if a guy gives shit to you, what the fuck is he going to do? What impact does he have on you? None, so why are you going to let him get into your head? If you don't like feeling "not-human", [b]then don't continue being the thing that makes you feel like you don't belong![/b] It's so god damn simple, but your emotions on how people think of you cloud your judgement. Those people who call you fat don't go on with their day thinking about how fat you are and how they're going to rip on you, they won't do anything! It barely effects their day, which should only mean it should effect yours less, because fuck those random ass people you will never see again or however long they're around. You just gotta do what you do, if you want to get a healthy body, it's not hard at all. Getting slimmer takes no time. The hard part people talk about is when you want a fit muscle toned body. And if you like being large, all the power to you. Don't let what people say cloud your judgement.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;39349556]You know that kind of proves his argument right low metabolism people generally have a higher weight higher metabolism goes to lower weight[/QUOTE] Do you even know how to read

haha most of facepunch (AKA naturally born scrawny teens) criticizing people for being overweight no matter the reason (which there are varieties of)

a recent study has found that culling the obese curbs obesity

[QUOTE=G71tc4;39350037]haha most of facepunch (AKA naturally born scrawny teens) criticizing people for being overweight no matter the reason (which there are varieties of)[/QUOTE] not everyone was excluded since birth

oh god if only we didn't celebrate being fat in this modern society we might not have many fat people at all! i mean we practically worship these guys. i can't look at one magazine, one commercial without seeing some fatass being paid to stuff their face.