Santorum: Doctors Providing Abortions To Rape And Incest Victims Should Be Arrested - Polidicks

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30461507]your logic is flawed if you dont think there is institutionalized sexism lol[/QUOTE] it's funny how you say this like it's a fact, then say it's a fact, and yet, it's not a fact. [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;30462769]not on its own but i provided more evidence you guys are just too narrow minded to accept that which challenges your worldview[/QUOTE] No you didn't. You never proved the important part of the argument, that the men lost their cases BECAUSE of sexism, you've simply SAID they have. You haven't proved fucking shit. You're so fucking pretentious.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30463546]it's funny how you say this like it's a fact, then say it's a fact, and yet, it's not a fact. [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] No you didn't. You never proved the important part of the argument, that the men lost their cases BECAUSE of sexism, you've simply SAID they have. You haven't proved fucking shit. You're so fucking pretentious.[/QUOTE] lol l2argue i already showed obvious evidence of institutionalized sexism in custody courts considering 75% of women gain custody while statistically they are as fit for parenting as a man

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464121]lol l2argue i already showed obvious evidence of institutionalized sexism in custody courts considering 75% of women gain custody while statistically they are as fit for parenting as a man[/QUOTE] Where

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464138]Where[/QUOTE] find it im not your mommy

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464162]find it im not your mommy[/QUOTE] Thank God for that. Still think you own a woman if you have sex with her?

Am I the only one who sees the irony in yawmwen arguing against sexism right after saying that the man should get the ability to veto a decision a woman makes about her own body

[QUOTE=Penultimate;30464176]Thank God for that. Still think you own a woman if you have sex with her?[/QUOTE] lol i never said that your like a less informed glenn beck [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;30464182]Am I the only one who sees the irony in yawmwen arguing against sexism right after saying that the man should get the ability to veto a decision a woman makes about her own body[/QUOTE] i was saying that because a woman DOESNT have control over her own fucking body when she wants to mercilessly slaughter a LIVING FUCKING CHILD someone else wants there is no argument that changes that

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464162]find it im not your mommy[/QUOTE] In your source [quote]divorce statistics is difficult and the data provided is often unclear. [/quote]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464208]In your source[/QUOTE] better than no data which is what you have lol

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464227]better than no data which is what you have lol[/QUOTE] [b]BUT YOUR DATA DOESN'T CITE SEXISM AS THE REASON WHICH IS YOUR MAIN POINT[/b]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464246][b]BUT YOUR DATA DOESN'T CITE SEXISM AS THE REASON WHICH IS YOUR MAIN POINT[/b][/QUOTE] so i interpreted it that way lol it doesnt need to cite shit, i am a big boy i can come to my own conclusions i dont need them to do it for me

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464254]so i interpreted it that way lol it doesnt need to cite shit, i am a big boy i can come to my own conclusions i dont need them to do it for me[/QUOTE] And you say your conclusions are fact. But this isn't so.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464263]And you say your conclusions are fact. But this isn't so.[/QUOTE] its as good as fact

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464189]lol i never said that your like a less informed glenn beck [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] i was saying that because a woman DOESNT have control over her own fucking body when she wants to mercilessly slaughter a LIVING FUCKING CHILD someone else wants there is no argument that changes that[/QUOTE] So, please tell me something. If the woman doesn't have control over "her own fucking body" when she wants to have an abortion, who DOES have the control?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464280]its as good as fact[/QUOTE] Why

[QUOTE=Penultimate;30464287]So, please tell me something. If the woman doesn't have control over "her own fucking body" when she wants to have an abortion, who DOES have the control?[/QUOTE] the father has control over the child until it is born(and after), the woman cedes that control when she wants to murder it. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464300]Why[/QUOTE] because its a solid logical interpretation and there is no way you can come to a factual conclusion with the data provided so interpretation is all you can do

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464319]the father has control over the child until it is born(and after), the woman cedes that control when she wants to murder it. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] because its a solid logical interpretation and there is no way you can come to a factual conclusion with the data provided so interpretation is all you can do[/QUOTE] That doesn't make your intrepretation fact for someone who I've seen nitpick about this shit before, you've really sunk to a whole new level. It's not a solid logical interpretation because it just completely ignores ANY case information and is a straight number. Numbers mean nothing so what you assume from them is ONLY what you assume from them. In this situation, you've just decided that your interpretation is better than anyone elses and that it's a fact.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464189]i was saying that because a woman DOESNT have control over her own fucking body when she wants to mercilessly slaughter a LIVING FUCKING CHILD someone else wants[/QUOTE]You don't know anything about abortion, do you. I mean, if you think a late term abortion is "mercilessly slaughtering a living child", then... well, again, you don't know anything about abortion. 1. Women don't get abortions at the drop of a hat. It's an incredibly invasive procedure, is very emotional, and not something that anyone would do without thinking about first. Which is why they think about it first. Ergo, not 'merciless'. 2. Unless if she's getting an abortion a week before before the baby is due (in which case I'm pretty sure it would just be simpler / saner / much more likely that she gets a c-section), aborting a fetus is not the same as stabbing a baby. Also, I'm tempted to ask why your ex broke up with you. It's not like it's any less relevant than arguing about custody suits and going back and forth about "75%" "nuh-uh" "yah-huh" "nuh-uh" "yah-huh" for eternity. And you did mention that she had an abortion 'without your permission'. You don't have to, though.

Incest victims? How does that work? I mean they obviously weren't raped or had it forced on them or they would be in the other category which means the sex was voluntary so how are they a "victim"?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464348] It's not a solid logical interpretation because it just completely ignores ANY case information and is a straight number. Numbers mean nothing so what you assume from them is ONLY what you assume from them. In this situation, you've just decided that your interpretation is better than anyone elses and that it's a fact.[/QUOTE] yea its as good as fact, whats your point?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464357]yea its as good as fact, whats your point?[/QUOTE] Says you. You don't determine fact. You ARE as bad as glaber now.

[quote]Also, I'm tempted to ask why your ex broke up with you. It's not like it's any less relevant than arguing about custody suits and going back and forth about "75%" "nuh-uh" "yah-huh" "nuh-uh" "yah-huh" for eternity. And you did mention that she had an abortion 'without your permission'. You don't have to, though.[/QUOTE] grew apart while she was pregnant, we broke up before she aborted good enough for ya? [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30464371]Says you. You don't determine fact. You ARE as bad as glaber now.[/QUOTE] yea i do determine fact just like you determine fact and glaber determines fact but thats a philosophical argument completely unrelated

I'm laughing hard. Yaw, it says in your goddamn evidence that (Taken from HumanAbyss, Thank you sir.) This. [QUOTE] divorce statistics is difficult and the data provided is often unclear. [/QUOTE] In which you refute that it's better than no data. Wrong, It's better to have no data at all than data that is unclear making evidence more shaken, not to mention that saying divorce statistics is difficult showing that it varies and is hard to tally.

[QUOTE=Keyblockor;30464541] Wrong, It's better to have no data at all than data that is unclear making evidence more shaken, not to mention that saying divorce statistics is difficult showing that it varies and is hard to tally.[/QUOTE] not really no, your wrong

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464373]grew apart while she was pregnant, we broke up before she aborted good enough for ya? [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] yea i do determine fact just like you determine fact and glaber determines fact but thats a philosophical argument completely unrelated[/QUOTE] Subjective observations about reality are just that.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30464319]the father has control over the child until it is born(and after), the woman cedes that control when she wants to murder it.[/QUOTE] Fortunately the law doesn't follow your middle ages-inspired viewpoints

Where'd this thread go since I last read it?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30440932]i think abortion is an issue between the mother, father, and doctor, it is not the business of anyone but those 3 parties if a mother is willing to kill her unborn child, if a father is willing to kill his unborn child, and a trained physician is willing to perform the procedure it is acceptable, but you cannot deny that the act is killing an unborn human being [/QUOTE] You have a very weird idea of what constitutes a human being. A fetus that is only a couple of weeks old is not really a human being. It might become one on day, but so might all the semen you waste by masturbating. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] You mass murderer!

It gets extremely morally iffy as the pregnancy progresses, in my opinion

It's bad enough that he's this stupid, whats even worse is the ammount of people that [i] agree [/i] with him. Personally I'd prefer only early pregnancy abortions, but if the mother is determined that she does not want a child/ cannot raise one then why deny he the right? Freedom of choice? Land of the free? Hell, she could throw the baby in a river or something if she really did not want it. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] So give her the choice to do what she wants, because if she really wants it, she will have it happen.