Santorum: Doctors Providing Abortions To Rape And Incest Victims Should Be Arrested - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The golden;30438885]Sadly, many people agree with his stance. I've also noticed that people that think like Santorum tend to be quite uneducated. But hey, that's just me.[/QUOTE] just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they're uneducated, and to think so makes you no better than them edit: to clear this up, I think Santorum is entirely wrong on this position, and he might be an idiot too I don't know enough about him to judge that, but just this one folly doesn't make him uneducated.

Stop making me rate agree, guys. There's no way I'll survive this month on my meager agree rations. I think men could have a say in it if both partners got pregnant. But, they don't. By all means, gentlemen, talk it over with your loved ones and discuss the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy. Just realize that it's ultimately the person impregnated that should have the freedom to choose.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;30443579]just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they're uneducated, and to think so makes you no better than them edit: to clear this up, I think Santorum is entirely wrong on this position, and he might be an idiot too I don't know enough about him to judge that, but just this one folly doesn't make him uneducated.[/QUOTE] Well yeah of course he's educated. You expect positions like these to develop naturally? [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] Santorum is the crystallization of years and years of the worst parts of christian schools.

I agree with first term abortion, i also agree with paying for it if the women is raped or sexualy assualted. If you want a late term abortion you're just very late, unless the waiting time for the precedure is that long. As for the life issue: a fetus can be considered "human" if there's blood and at least a brain, wich only develops after 14 weeks.

I honestly think a case could be made for limited sentience at the later stages of development. However, a fetus that is early enough to be aborted is in no way a person, and won't be for quite a while. These people wouldn't hesitate to sterilize a petri dish with a few bacterial colonies in it, and yet they are opposed to someone else getting rid of a zygote. Ugh.

the same people who will oppose abortion no matter what are the same people who wouldn't bat an eyelash at wiping out an entire ant colony or slaughtering hundreds of cows for their over-processed beef. either respect all life or respect none.

Oh ho, I love this argument! You're both against the same thing, but you can't agree with how you want to go against it! It's like the "five blind men define an elephant" story, except the blind men are manic teens with cutlery!

[QUOTE=Sanius;30444345]the same people who will oppose abortion no matter what are the same people who wouldn't bat an eyelash at wiping out an entire ant colony or slaughtering hundreds of cows for their over-processed beef. either respect all life or respect none.[/QUOTE] I agree with you, but I wouldn't say abortion isn't respecting life. What about the teenager that threw her infant out the window? Wouldn't it have been more respectful to have aborted it? Not to pick a fight with you at all. I think we're "on the same side." It's just been bothering me for a while. Is it more merciful to kill something quickly, avoiding years of hardship with no guarantee of betterment, or is it more merciful to force it to live, whatever what comes afterwards? That's definitely a slippery slope, but I'm talking about unborn fetuses, just so everyone know. The unestablished life.

I don't consider a fetus to be alive. once a child is born it is the responsibility of the mother or father to provide care for it or hand it off to a person who can.

[QUOTE=Sanius;30444462]I don't consider a fetus to be alive[/QUOTE] well that's weird dude i mean even yeast is alive

even bjork is alive [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] more alive than we are

[QUOTE=thisispain;30444471]well that's weird dude i mean even yeast is alive[/QUOTE] as I said earlier, a bacterium is alive. that doesn't mean that it has any worth.

yes but when you say a fetus isn't alive you are factually incorrect

[QUOTE=Lazor;30444482]even bjork is alive [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] more alive than we are[/QUOTE] shes very much alive *on every solar and galactic level* [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;30444497]as I said earlier, a bacterium is alive. that doesn't mean that it has any worth.[/QUOTE] yeah but you said alive, not worth

[QUOTE=Lazor;30444505]yes but when you say a fetus isn't alive you are factually incorrect[/QUOTE] whether or not abortion should be legal is not based on anything factual. it is based purely on superstition and emotions, regardless of what side you are on

that's not what i'm arguing about you used a word incorrectly and we are correcting you like good citizens

[QUOTE=Sanius;30444531]whether or not abortion should be legal is not based on anything factual. it is based purely on superstition and emotions, regardless of what side you are on[/QUOTE] yeah but ignoring all of that you said you don't consider a fetus to be alive which is weird i mean it's still an organism, it has live cells and junk

please stop arguing pedantics

you used the wrong word again [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] (semantics not pedantics)

[QUOTE=Sanius;30444560]please stop arguing pedantics[/QUOTE] nah i'm just messing with you

Currently reading this: [url]http://books.google.com/books?id=z3b45ABZAEwC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false[/url] I challenge anyone to read at least the first chapter. It's good. The author was interviewed and I quoted the interview before in here.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;30442913]well maybe it's time to accept the fact that her body was not under your command she wasn't your slave[/QUOTE] um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE] now you aren't even pretending to not be misogynistic

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE] fuck you a woman has every right to do what she wants with her body. this isn't the fucking dark ages

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE] I think you need to stop posting

[QUOTE=Sanius;30444941]fuck you a woman has every right to do what she wants with her body. this isn't the fucking dark ages[/QUOTE] no she doesnt, not when it infringes on someone elses rights

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444949]no she doesnt, not when it infringes on someone elses rights[/QUOTE] a fetus is not a person and therefore has no rights unless you meant the rights of a man, in which case, fuck you again

and how the fuck are anyone's right infringed upon when it's [b]her body and nobody else's[/b]

[QUOTE=Lazor;30444971]and how the fuck are anyone's right infringed upon when it's [b]her body and nobody else's[/b][/QUOTE] when its another persons child a right is infringed upon what if a surrogate mother got impregnated then just aborted the baby?

then that would be her right too, she may face legal issues for breach of contract, but that's a different issue entirely women don't become property the moment they become pregnant