Santorum: Doctors Providing Abortions To Rape And Incest Victims Should Be Arrested
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and again, its sexist to think even for a second that a man and woman should have unequal say in the fate of their child
that's not sexist
what's sexist is giving the man the ability to hold a women's body hostage because he impregnated her
[QUOTE=Lazor;30445029]then that would be her right too, she may face legal issues for breach of contract, but that's a different issue entirely [/quote]
no she doesnt have the right to, you cant face legal issues for your rights
when a mother is a surrogate the child belongs to the person(s) she signed a contract with, it is no longer hers, why should it be any different if its a man and a woman involved? the man may not carry the child but he still has 50% ownership if he so wishes
[quote]women don't become property the moment they become pregnant[/QUOTE]
uh duh i never said they become property
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[QUOTE=Lazor;30445051]that's not sexist
what's sexist is giving the man the ability to hold a women's body hostage because he impregnated her[/QUOTE]
whats sexist is giving the woman the ability to hold a mans child hostage because she got impregnated
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445034]and again, its sexist to think even for a second that a man and woman should have unequal say in the fate of their child[/QUOTE]
i think your logic glands have aids or something
it's not a man's child you stupid fuck
it is the women's child. it is in her body. she nurtures it, she has to carry the burden for 9 months, she has to deal with the pain incurred from that pregnancy.
all the guy did was put his dick in the women and ejaculate
and it's not a child, it's a fetus
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE]
:andherewego:
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444992]when its another persons child a right is infringed upon
what if a surrogate mother got impregnated then just aborted the baby?[/QUOTE]
But that's at least a wanted pregnancy, and they'd probably jump through legal hoops and sign contracts to do it.
When you ejaculate into a woman, you automatically risk a wanted or unwanted pregnancy. You're not the one getting pregnant, so you wouldn't be the one dealing with morning sickness, hormones, or any other slew of problems. It also wouldn't be you laying on the hospital bed to deliver it, going through whatever pain to push something out.
It's always two people who share their DNA to create a fetus. What's this shit about "it's another person's child"? You don't own the fetus, and you don't own the woman.
should a man be able to be prevent a women from taking a morning after pill as well? i mean, what if he wants a child?
[QUOTE=Lazor;30445088]it's not a man's child you stupid fuck [/quote]
yea it is, that child is 50% genetically similar to the man
that doesn't mean shit
also that's not how genetics work are you really that stupid
yawmwen you should stop posting and go to sleep
you have bible study in the morning and Pastor Stevens would be very upset if you were late for your lessons on why gays are bad people and why abortion and rock music are satans handiwork
[QUOTE=Lazor;30445105]should a man be able to be prevent a women from taking a morning after pill as well? i mean, what if he wants a child?[/QUOTE]
different point, the child if not formed, sperm or ova are not human life, only potential life
also im talking about late term abortion anyways
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[QUOTE=Lazor;30445113]that doesn't mean shit
also that's not how genetics work are you really that stupid[/QUOTE]
uh yea it is
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE]
I understand that you're hurt over what happened, it's normal to be
But what you're proposing here is disgusting and hideous and straight out of the 1300s
YOU WEREN'T PREGNANT, you made a woman pregnant
Her body and that fetus is hers and hers alone because it forms in HER, not you
and the woman having to carry the child doesnt mean shit
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30444926]um im sorry but a woman loses the right to her body when she wants to slaughter a mans child[/QUOTE]
hey have you considered it's her child too. maybe she is making the decision to abort after days and weeks of thought.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445123]and the woman having to carry the child doesnt mean shit[/QUOTE]
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But seriously, just stop.
maybe she isn't taking it as lightly as you seem to think
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445123]and the woman having to carry the child doesnt mean shit[/QUOTE]
Yeah women are just meat cocoons that help my property grow
maybe?
a women is never going to take it lightly seeing as it's an incredibly invasive procedure
people don't just callously get abortions
and in the case of late term abortions, those are even more dangerous and usually only done for medical reasons so the man should definitely have a say in that case
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30445122]I understand that you're hurt over what happened, it's normal to be
But what you're proposing here is disgusting and hideous and straight out of the 1300s
YOU WEREN'T PREGNANT, you made a woman pregnant
Her body and that fetus is hers and hers alone because it forms in HER, not you[/QUOTE]
so then how am i supposed to protect my children? how is a woman better than me and able decide for my child without my consent? because she by nature has to carry a child? it isnt like she chooses to take on extra burden to get that power, its just nature, i couldnt take the burden if i wanted to
you keep saying it's your child when clearly it's not
even if it's 50/50 life you say it is, that doesn't make it your child.
your language is ever revealing of your misogynistic tendencies
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"how is a women better than me and able to decide for my child without my consent?"
gee i dunno maybe because IT'S INSIDE OF HER
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445162]so then how am i supposed to protect my children? how is a woman better than me and able decide for my child without my consent? because she by nature has to carry a child? it isnt like she chooses to take on extra burden to get that power, its just nature, i couldnt take the burden if i wanted to[/QUOTE]
You keep saying your child, and nature, when nature quite clearly indicates that until that child is actually born it's hers. (Upon which point society takes over for nature and grants equal guardianship to both)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30445197]You keep saying your child, and nature, when nature quite clearly indicates that until that child is actually born it's hers. (Upon which point society takes over for nature and grants equal guardianship to both)[/QUOTE]
natures a bitch
He will never become president...
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445162]so then how am i supposed to protect my children? how is a woman better than me and able decide for my child without my consent? because she by nature has to carry a child? it isnt like she chooses to take on extra burden to get that power, its just nature, i couldnt take the burden if i wanted to[/QUOTE]
It's not your child. You could actually talk it over with the woman and let her know that you're willing to take care of it either alone or with her, but it's still actually her choice. And, yeah, she doesn't CHOOSE to get pregnant. That's the problem. She might not want the fucking thing.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445216]natures a bitch[/QUOTE]
or maybe nature's just not a massive misogynist
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;30445230]or maybe nature's just not a massive misogynist[/QUOTE]
i think your the misogynist
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i mean you say it every other post your like the homophobe who is a repressed homosexual
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i mean how is saying nature is a bitch misogynistic in the least
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445238]i think your the misogynist
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i mean you say it every other post your like the homophobe who is a repressed homosexual
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i mean how is saying nature is a bitch misogynistic in the least[/QUOTE]
uhhh what
[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445238]i think your the misogynist
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i mean you say it every other post your like the homophobe who is a repressed homosexual
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i mean how is saying nature is a bitch misogynistic in the least[/QUOTE]
I don't think you know what that word means. I'm looking at the definition right now. If you can tell me what it means, I might you're a bit less uneducated about this subject. Maybe.
[QUOTE=Penultimate;30445281]I don't think you know what that word means. I'm looking at the definition right now. If you can tell me what it means, I might you're a bit less uneducated about this subject. Maybe.[/QUOTE]
why do i gotta explain myself to you
and misogyny is hatred of women, basically
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