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he obviously doesn't know what the word if he thinks anyone is a bigger misogynist than he is in this thread

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445238]i mean how is saying nature is a bitch misogynistic in the least[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;30445197]You keep saying your child, and nature, [b]when nature quite clearly indicates that until that child is actually born it's hers.[/b] (Upon which point society takes over for nature and grants equal guardianship to both)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=yawmwen;30445216][b]natures a bitch[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;30445277]uhhh what[/QUOTE] you spout it out like its some sort of battle cry if you want the attention taken off your own misogyny then it didnt work [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] natures a bitch doesnt even hint at misogyny unless somehow the phrase "_____ is a bitch" has become misogynistic in the last day

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445284]why do i gotta explain myself to you and misogyny is hatred of women, basically[/QUOTE] You "gotta" explain yourself to me because you have a contrasting opinion to me. Don't you want to support your opinion? You don't think it's the slightest bit misogynistic to proudly proclaim "and the woman having to carry the child doesnt mean shit"?

what are you babbling on about there wasn't any attention on his supposed misogyny there still isn't

Yawmen, there is no way that a fetus is 50% a mans effort. The man ejaculates in a woman. He gives maybe a few hundred jules of energy to the life of this baby. The mother sits with the baby, feeding it hundreds and thousands and thousands of jules of energy, units of body heat, and everything else. The pure energy exchanged on one side of the equation means that the man doesn't have 50% of the right. [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] No one here is being sexist but you yawmen. When you say that a fetus is half a mans rights, you're being sexist against women. No, you know what, the man doesn't even give a hundred jules, all that's needed is one sperm, one ejaculation, that's nothing in terms of energy. They're not equal.

[QUOTE=Penultimate;30445311]You "gotta" explain yourself to me because you have a contrasting opinion to me. Don't you want to support your opinion? You don't think it's the slightest bit misogynistic to proudly proclaim "and the woman having to carry the child doesnt mean shit"?[/QUOTE] kneejerk reaction to someone saying contribution of genetics to a child doesnt mean shit [QUOTE=Lazor;30445312]what are you babbling on about there wasn't any attention on his supposed misogyny there still isn't[/QUOTE] his repressed misogyny you mean and there is from me now, i for one am interested in why and how long mistermooth has hated women

so basically you're just deflecting attention from how wrong you are

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445306]you spout it out like its some sort of battle cry if you want the attention taken off your own misogyny then it didnt work[/QUOTE] You can't be serious. That's the first time I've even said the word in this thread. My own misogyny? I'm not the one spouting out crap about how the man holds all the rights to a fetus. Calling *me* a misogynist isn't hiding the fact that you are one. [quote]natures a bitch doesnt even hint at misogyny unless somehow the phrase "_____ is a bitch" has become misogynistic in the last day[/quote] Don't play dumb. It's obvious you said that as a disagreement with the fact that a fetus is the mother's until it's born.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445332]kneejerk reaction to someone saying contribution of genetics to a child doesnt mean shit his repressed misogyny you mean and there is from me now, i for one am interested in why and how long mistermooth has hated women[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter that he gives genetic material. A baby needs genetic material, yes. But you know what it needs more? Energy. Heat. Nutrients.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445313]Yawmen, there is no way that a fetus is 50% a mans effort. The man ejaculates in a woman. He gives maybe a few hundred jules of energy to the life of this baby. The mother sits with the baby, feeding it hundreds and thousands and thousands of jules of energy, units of body heat, and everything else. The pure energy exchanged on one side of the equation means that the man doesn't have 50% of the right. [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] No one here is being sexist but you yawmen. When you say that a fetus is half a mans rights, you're being sexist against women.[/QUOTE] but this effort and equation just goes away after it is born? isnt that sexist to think that a woman loses all her rights over the child at the exact second of birth? it doesnt follow through logically, because logically the woman would have power over the man for the rest of the childs life because of that initial investment

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445358]but this effort and equation just goes away after it is born? isnt that sexist to think that a woman loses all her rights over the child at the exact second of birth? it doesnt follow through logically, because logically the woman would have power over the man for the rest of the childs life because of that initial investment[/QUOTE] No? That's not what logic dictates at all. You're a misogynist to say that the difference would go away. Are you not thinking clearly or something? Do you not see that once the baby leaves her body, it becomes a separate entity. An entity with no means to care for itself. It's care falls on those two people(Lets not even bother getting into lesbian relationships with in vitro, you can't handle the big stuff yet). Those two people might not invest equal energy in the child over its life, but they're granted equal rights of the life as they're both genetic parents, and both contribute greatly to the child's life.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;30445350]You can't be serious. That's the first time I've even said the word in this thread. My own misogyny? I'm not the one spouting out crap about how the man holds all the rights to a fetus. Calling *me* a misogynist isn't hiding the fact that you are one.[/quote] taking the attention off yourself to try and put it on me again? [quote]Don't play dumb. It's obvious you said that as a disagreement with the fact that a fetus is the mother's until it's born.[/QUOTE] no i didnt i said "nature is a bitch" as in "nature sucks" [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445364]No? That's not what logic dictates at all.[/QUOTE] so tell me what logic dictates

once a child is born, it's no longer about the parent's control, it's about the child and what's best for it custody court will decide which parent gets the child based on which one would be a better parent for the child, nothing else is supposed to matter

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445332]and there is from me now, i for one am interested in why and how long mistermooth has hated women[/QUOTE] Please inform me on how I hate women. It's funny because all this time I thought I was a feminist! You sure showed me how wrong I've been all this time.

[QUOTE=Lazor;30445385] custody court will decide which parent gets the child based on which one would be a better parent for the child, nothing else is supposed to matter[/QUOTE] a custody court slanted towards women? custody courts are pretty sexist not to mention racist

[quote]taking the attention off yourself to try and put it on me again?[/quote] lmao still trying to waffle around are you?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445369]taking the attention off yourself to try and put it on me again? no i didnt i said "nature is a bitch" as in "nature sucks" [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] so tell me what logic dictates[/QUOTE] You're a misogynist to say that the difference would go away. Are you not thinking clearly or something? Do you not see that once the baby leaves her body, it becomes a separate entity. An entity with no means to care for itself. It's care falls on those two people(Lets not even bother getting into lesbian relationships with in vitro, you can't handle the big stuff yet). Those two people might not invest equal energy in the child over its life, but they're granted equal rights of the life as they're both genetic parents, and both contribute greatly to the child's life.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445391]a custody court slanted towards women? custody courts are pretty sexist[/QUOTE] o ok i guess it is based on a women's efforts in child birth then looks like my feelings on that matter are consistent whether born or unborn! go me! also source please and regardless i'm talking about what happens in theory

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445404]You're a misogynist to say that the difference would go away. [/quote] wat? [quote]Are you not thinking clearly or something? Do you not see that once the baby leaves her body, it becomes a separate entity. An entity with no means to care for itself. It's care falls on those two people(Lets not even bother getting into lesbian relationships with in vitro, you can't handle the big stuff yet). Those two people might not invest equal energy in the child over its life, but they're granted equal rights of the life as they're both genetic parents, and both contribute greatly to the child's life.[/QUOTE] ok

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445413]wat? ok[/QUOTE] Oh I just thought i'd get in on the retarded use of "misogyny" in this thread. The baby, once it's left its mother is no longer part of the mothers body, it's, as I said, it's own entity, where equal rights to [i]provide[/i] for the child are granted to each parent. I don't see where you'd have gotten this "power over the man" crap from.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;30445387]Please inform me on how I hate women. It's funny because all this time I thought I was a feminist! You sure showed me how wrong I've been all this time.[/QUOTE] I took it upon myself to stalk him and go through his posts with a figurative comb. I couldn't really see anything sexist or misogynistic, yawmwen. He's very active in video game threads, though.

[QUOTE=Lazor;30445407]o ok i guess it is based on a women's efforts in child birth then looks like my feelings on that matter are consistent whether born or unborn! go me! also source please[/QUOTE] i dont need to source something common knowledge BUT:[url]http://www.childcustodycoach.com/child-custody-statistics.php[/url] [quote]According to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), nearly 75 percent of all child custody awards are made to the mother. Only about 10 percent of child custody awards are made to fathers. The rest of the child custody awards involve some sort of joint custody arrangement. [/quote] [quote]and regardless i'm talking about what happens in theory[/quote]ok [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445424] The baby, once it's left its mother is no longer part of the mothers body, it's, as I said, it's own entity, where equal rights to [I]provide[/I] for the child are granted to each parent. I don't see where you'd have gotten this "power over the man" crap from.[/QUOTE] it was just a question geez

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445455]i dont need to source something common knowledge ok[/QUOTE] I wonder if that's because in a lot of cases the dad just didn't deserve custody... Wow, I mean, who would have guessed that people who go to custody battles aren't equally likely to get the kid...

[QUOTE=Penultimate;30445454]I took it upon myself to stalk him and go through his posts with a figurative comb. I couldn't really see anything sexist or misogynistic, yawmwen. He's very active in video game threads, though.[/QUOTE] Thanks... I think

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445460]I wonder if that's because in a lot of cases the dad just didn't deserve custody... Wow, I mean, who would have guessed that people who go to custody battles aren't equally likely to get the kid...[/QUOTE] the dad almost never gets custody the mother gets custody most of the time this doesnt scream sexism to you?

just because the majority of them go to women doesn't make it inherently sexist, it just means more of them go to women [editline]14th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;30445478]the dad never gets custody the mother gets custody most of the time this doesnt scream sexism to you?[/QUOTE] you can't just look at the statistics. causation is not correlation. that's pretty common knowledge

[QUOTE=Lazor;30445480]just because the majority of them go to women doesn't make it inherently sexist, it just means more of them go to women[/QUOTE] which is sexist yea the legal system isnt racist its just that more black people are convicted

[QUOTE=yawmwen;30445478]the dad almost never gets custody the mother gets custody most of the time this doesnt scream sexism to you?[/QUOTE] It would scream sexism if I didn't know that that was generally because [i]a lot of fathers are bad fathers[/i]. it has nothing to do with sexism when the people are not equally qualified for child rearing.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;30445499]It would scream sexism if I didn't know that that was generally because [i]a lot of fathers are bad fathers[/i]. it has nothing to do with sexism when the people are not equally qualified for child rearing.[/QUOTE] a lot of mothers are bad mothers too