[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24423075]I don't want to argue anymore, stop it.
Also, when does Dexter get good? I watched 2 episodes and I bored my brain it[/QUOTE]
Don't get into a fucking argument if your intent is to just troll those who have valid points with your inane bullshit.
And all of it's good, but it really picks up around season 2.
[editline]07:30PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24423097]Evidence against morality doesn't make sense[/QUOTE]
Again.
"my morals are to kill the jews"
"I see no problem with this"
Really? Advocate this again.
If you still don't get it, people have inalienable rights to life that a government should never be allowed to violate. They do every time they kill someone with the death penalty.
Sorry if I seemed like trolling then, god damn.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24423076]I give you hearts just for being Jim Lahey. Trailer Park Boys forever.[/QUOTE]
The winds of shit are in the air, boys.
Evidence against that is that jews didn't do anything wrong
Murderers...did
[editline]07:31PM[/editline]
why can't i stop
[QUOTE=Jim Lahey;24423160]The winds of shit are in the air, boys.[/QUOTE]
It's a shit tornado I tell you Randy bobandy.
You didn't "seem" like you were trolling. You were trolling in perhaps the purest sense of the word.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24423169]Evidence against that is that jews didn't do anything wrong
Murderers...did
[editline]07:31PM[/editline]
why can't i stop[/QUOTE]
So they deserve death for it? They can't repent? Fix themselves? Be rehabilitated? The line can not be drawn that arbitrarily.
[editline]07:32PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=BmB;24423182]You didn't "seem" like you were trolling. You were trolling in perhaps the purest sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not that far, but to some degree for sure.
I think its better for someone to die, than spend the rest of their lives in a hell hole called Prison.
I'd also like to point out that admitting that you were wrong while arguing with you guys is very hard
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24422996]So we should just kill those that don't go alone with our system. Gotcha boss. I'm going to kill you now because you don't go along with the system. I'm a fascist leader, hows that sound?
The fact of the fucking matter is society can not kill people and maintain itself. It's hypocritical and worthless. It violates rights, it's more expensive than life in prison, and not only that, it's not foolproof. You're taking as many innocent lives as you are not innocent lives.
There is no way to justify it.[/QUOTE]
Man im loving your unfounded hostility towards me, I was agreeing with you in that rehabilitation is the best way to combat crime and that execution is a crude way to fight crime, then I made a down to earth point that as humans we will always try to kill each other in some way or another, a tragedy surely. But then you started with this bizarre argument that society is somehow to blame for everything that is wrong with human nature which, i'm going to be honest with you dumbfounds me altogether. How can something that houses you, feeds you, keeps you safe and entertains you be "hypocritical and worthless?"
The UK needs executions back. Some shitholes deserve to die but go to jail and get released and do the exact same thing they got put in for.
[QUOTE=Pruneyman;24423255]The UK needs executions back. Some shitholes deserve to die but go to jail and get released and do the exact same thing they got put in for.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's because jail sucks and only makes them worse and not because they are helpless.
Just a thought.
[QUOTE=Pruneyman;24423255]The UK needs executions back. Some shitholes deserve to die but go to jail and get released and do the exact same thing they got put in for.[/QUOTE]
^ this
If someone slayed your entire family would you be happy if the guy got to walk again? Only to do the same thing again to a another family.
[QUOTE=Afgman;24423275]^ this
If someone slayed your entire family would you be happy if the guy got to walk again? Only to do the same thing again to a another family.[/QUOTE]
life without parole
[QUOTE=Afgman;24423275]^ this
If someone slayed your entire family would you be happy if the guy got to walk again? Only to do the same thing again to a another family.[/QUOTE]
That wouldn't happen if they got rehabilitated
[editline]07:38PM[/editline]
That too, they wouldn't get out anyway
[QUOTE=JDK721;24423299]life without parole[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
It's not about vengeance. Vigilance is illegal for a reason. You can not deal with him rationally, which is why other people do it for you. Forcing this sort of petty revenge scheme on those who are supposed to deal with the criminals rationally is disgusting.
[QUOTE=Mabus;24423250]Man im loving your unfounded hostility towards me, I was agreeing with you in that rehabilitation is the best way to combat crime and that execution is a crude way to fight crime, then I made a down to earth point that as humans we will always try to kill each other in some way or another, a tragedy surely. But then you started with this bizarre argument that society is somehow to blame for everything that is wrong with human nature which, i'm going to be honest with you dumbfounds me altogether. How can something that houses you, feeds you, keeps you safe and entertains you be "hypocritical and worthless?"[/QUOTE]
No, human nature is at fault. Society has to be above that. Society can not degrade to just an unadulterated fuck fest of human nature. it has to be above that. That's all I'm saying.
And I'm not even hostile. It's just how some things come out.
[QUOTE=BmB;24423320]It's not about vengeance. Vigilance is illegal for a reason. You can not deal with him rationally, which is why other people do it for you. Forcing this sort of petty revenge scheme on those who are supposed to deal with the criminals rationally is disgusting.[/QUOTE]
People die and go, but I rather die than stay in prison and get sodomized by some black person. Forcing? I am just saying eventually you guys will not be able to afford to keep the prisoners anymore and the death penalty will come back. Unless you made them work in some kind of camp or hard labor job..
No, human nature is at fault. Society has to be above that. Society can not degrade to just an unadulterated fuck fest of human nature. it has to be above that. That's all I'm saying.
And I'm not even hostile. It's just how some things come out.
Some Fantasy you got their.
[QUOTE=Afgman;24423362]People die and go, but I rather die than stay in prison and get sodomized by some black person. Forcing? I am just saying eventually you guys will not be able to afford to keep the prisoners anymore and the death penalty will come back. Unless you made them work in some kind of camp or hard labor job..
No, human nature is at fault. Society has to be above that. Society can not degrade to just an unadulterated fuck fest of human nature. it has to be above that. That's all I'm saying.
And I'm not even hostile. It's just how some things come out.
Some Fantasy you got their.[/QUOTE]
The prison system needs reform. only american prisons are as bad as you are saying they are.
Hows it a fantasy? You're saying its a fantasy to not have people rights violated?
[QUOTE=BmB;24423273]Maybe that's because jail sucks and only makes them worse and not because they are helpless.
Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24423380]The prison system needs reform. only american prisons are as bad as you are saying they are.
Hows it a fantasy? You're saying its a fantasy to not have people rights violated?[/QUOTE]
Nothing is perfect in the human world, and you will never have this so called "society." Their will always be bad people in this world killing and exploiting other no matter how hard you try, and if you take that away you take away what makes us human.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24423340]No, human nature is at fault. Society has to be above that. Society can not degrade to just an unadulterated fuck fest of human nature. it has to be above that. That's all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
A challenge indeed, and by the looks of today the "fuckfest" seems to be seeping out here and there, and yet in some places (such as were you could be sitting right now) things ain't that bad. Wish I could say the same. If society is the chain, our own nature could be the rabid dog waiting to break it apart and let itself loose, and it has on many occasions and still does even now.
[QUOTE=Mabus;24423458]A challenge indeed, and by the looks of today the "fuckfest" seems to be seeping out here and there, and yet in some places (such as were you could be sitting right now) things ain't that bad. Wish I could say the same. If society is the chain, our own nature could be the rabid dog waiting to break it apart and let itself loose, and it has on many occasions and still does even now.[/QUOTE]
Look at areas like Scandinavia and etc. Look at how great they are due to the social systems in place and the general structure of it.
Then look at the US.
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[QUOTE=Afgman;24423446]Nothing is perfect in the human world, and you will never have this so called "society." Their will always be bad people in this world killing and exploiting other no matter how hard you try, and if you take that away you take away what makes us human.[/QUOTE]
Scandinavia is closer to it than you'd admit. So many places are, it's too bad you're a sheltered american.
No. Killing is an animal thing to do. Gorillas get mad at you they fucking murder you and rape you with your own leg. Humans get mad at you they can try and reason with you. Only humans do that. Yet some insist that we must be these shithead gorillas.
Humans have honour and ethics, animals just do whatever.
What you are saying is "human nature" couldn't be further from.
People definitely don't have to kill, sometimes I wonder how someone can get into the mentality that doing it is alright, and so do most people.
[QUOTE=BmB;24423516]No. Killing is an animal thing to do. Gorillas get mad at you they fucking murder you and rape you with your own leg. Humans get mad at you they can try and reason with you. Only humans do that. Yet some insist that we must be these shithead gorillas.[/QUOTE]
Most people backing the point of the death penalty want us to be fucking savages who don't rationalize anything.
Scandinavia is closer to it than you'd admit. So many places are, it's too bad you're a sheltered american.[/QUOTE]
I am not a natural American, and I have seen many countries in my time, but Scandinavia is only like that because of its small population. The tensions in Europe were kind of released during WW II, but Scandinavia is far from perfect.
No. Killing is an animal thing to do. Gorillas get mad at you they fucking murder you and rape you with your own leg. Humans get mad at you they can try and reason with you. Only humans do that. Yet some insist that we must be these shithead gorillas.
Humans have honour and ethics, animals just do whatever.
What you are saying is "human nature" couldn't be further from.
Are your desires not reflections of animal nature? Greed, Power, and woman? Humans can strive for perfection but that can never be accomplished. Malice is one of the many emotions humans feel no matter who you are or where you are from.
Scandinavia is not a country buddy, which country are you talking about Norway? Sweden? Denmark? I can safely say they ain't near close to perfect they have their problems too, just not as easily seen as the US. As Afgman said nothing is perfect in the human world.
Honestly the only reason it isn't closer is because we have absorbed a fair bit of the savage idiotic line of thought behind the current american justice system.
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