Japan reveals long-secretive execution process - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Afgman;24424553]They think the rapist or the murder did not do anything wrong. They think that humans are perfect beings that can solve anything with rational thinking. Explain wars for me than?[/QUOTE] No. They did something wrong. What don't oyu get? Just because they did something wrong [b]DOES NOT MEAN WE FUCKING KILL THEM.[/b] You're just fucking bloodthirsty.

This isn't really contributing, but for fucks sake afgman, learn to quote [img_thumb]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/vb/editor/quote.gif[/img_thumb] USE THIS EDIT: Or this: "[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=24424658"]Reply[/URL]"

[QUOTE=Aman V;24424642]baaaawww oh god guys I got blood on my hands I killed a murderer oh god how can I live with myself. Thread is making me angry; I'm out. pussies.[/QUOTE] "the government should not be killing its own citizens" "WOW YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSY"

[QUOTE=Aman V;24424642]baaaawww oh god guys I got blood on my hands I killed a murderer oh god how can I live with myself. Thread is making me angry; I'm out. pussies.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's why. That's why indeed. Leave because you have no real fucking argument. I don't care about the blood on my hands, I care about human rights you dolt.

[QUOTE=Warhol;24422184]it's never fucking needed, EVER. We have a fucking prison and Rehabilitation system for a reason, skipping past if for some bullshit vindictive vendetta is fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] Yeah, cause you can rehabilitate a killer? Sorry, but I'd rather send them to the gallows than have them back in the community or spend tax money on them. I'm not against the death penalty, but I don't think we should hang every killer. I just think it should be used in the case of grotesque crimes.

I do not know how to get this through your head, but sometimes people will die and sometimes its for the betterment of a country. This is an arbitrary line that can be drawn by anyone that could lead to anyone being killed. You want to give the government more power? People die, why do more people need to needlessly die? Lol, money is an issue to execute someone? Source? Ok, so seeing as you clearly aren't actually educated in this argument, this point will go right over your head. Proving the innocence/guilt of the person your killing costs millions in court fees and etc. Why are you so ignorant of the real world? [B]Same applies for jail,bud.[/B] Your being an idiot of saying I said that somdomist should go to jail. not my fault you don't understand the word sodomy and the difference between sodomy and rape. People are dying in wars right now for nothing, but you are sitting here complaining about a person who killid someone. The person that criminal killid cannot come back to life , and you are a idiot if you think the world can become a perfect place one day. Yes, they sure are. And I'm not advocating wars. You're just trying to kill people for what reason? What's the purpose behind killing these people? It's also "Killed" for fucks sakes. That person can't come back, neither can the killer. So why kill them? [B]Look at my reasons above? Your views will not change because no one ever done anything wrong with you so you just live your life like a happy flower, but when someone kills someone close to you you will feel the pain.[/B] No. They did something wrong. What don't oyu get? Just because they did something wrong DOES NOT MEAN WE FUCKING KILL THEM. You're just fucking bloodthirsty. I want you to feel the pain of a love one dying to a sick and twsited crime. Than your views will change in an instant, and humans will never be perfect being you must always know this.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24424123]That's not the expensive part for fucks sakes. Proving their guilt beyond a doubt costs roughly 2-5 million dollars a year. It takes many years. Waste of space? How about release non violent offenders like drug users who got arrested? So much space would be freed up. It's more expensive to kill them. It's more time to kill them too due to the legal system than a simple trial. [B]Vengeance/retribution IS NOT A FUCKING REASON. It's barbaric.[/B][/QUOTE] Welcome to the real world. Criminals get what's coming to them. They can't live in our world? Then we take them out of it.

[QUOTE=Aman V;24424642]baaaawww oh god guys I got blood on my hands I killed a murderer oh god how can I live with myself. Thread is making me angry; I'm out. pussies.[/QUOTE] wow raging sociopathic overweight twelve year old

[QUOTE=Afgman;24296980] Rights and freedoms? That's something important to think about when the world is in crisis. [B](said in jest)[/B][/QUOTE] please stop responding to this retarded afgman fuck, he's probably the worst person i've ever seen on facepunch

[QUOTE=Funcoot;24424679]Yeah, cause you can rehabilitate a killer? Sorry, but I'd rather send them to the gallows than have them back in the community or spend tax money on them. I'm not against the death penalty, but I don't think we should hang every killer. I just think it should be used in the case of grotesque crimes.[/QUOTE] Why not just lock them up forever because it's just as cheap, and it's harder on the killer. You want punishment? They'll punish themselves knowing they have to live with what they did forever.

[QUOTE=Aman V;24424546]Did they not violate "human rights" when they committed their crimes? Or is that only applicable to law enforcement and jails in your eyes? [editline]03:40AM[/editline] yep 100%[/QUOTE] Tell me, why do we not execute the executioner? He is as much a killer as the killer himself, killing with intent. And then we can execute the executioner of the executioner, and his executioner until there are no more people left in the world or who wants the job. Then you have no executions left. How will you then get your revenge?

[QUOTE=Funcoot;24424679]Yeah, cause you can rehabilitate a killer? Sorry, but I'd rather send them to the gallows than have them back in the community or spend tax money on them. I'm not against the death penalty, but I don't think we should hang every killer. I just think it should be used in the case of grotesque crimes.[/QUOTE] why exactly can't you rehabilitate a killer? is there something special about a killer that apparently makes them untreatable?

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;24424694]Welcome to the real world. Criminals get what's coming to them. They can't live in our world? Then we take them out of it.[/QUOTE] You're a christian... advocating the death penalty? What the fuck is wrong with you? Jesus would slap you upside the head with your own fucking book.

[QUOTE=Savaril;24424700]please stop responding to this retarded afgman fuck, he's probably the worst person i've ever seen on facepunch[/QUOTE] Go fuck your self. Why not just lock them up forever because it's just as cheap, and it's harder on the killer. You want punishment? They'll punish themselves knowing they have to live with what they did forever. Yes and you want them to have a worse punishment, why? Just end their lives its cheaper to take someone to court and do a fair trial and just end them. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - SteveUK))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;24424694]Welcome to the real world. Criminals get what's coming to them. They can't live in our world? Then we take them out of it.[/QUOTE] sounding awfully orwellian there.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24424482]How about [b]NOT VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS.[/b][/QUOTE] I know I'm going to be yelled at for this, but what right did they have to murder or rape someone? Human rights are a fabrication, created to try and make life better by the governments of the world. What may be a human right somewhere, isn't somewhere else. Human rights are different everywhere, and obviously in places where the death penalty is legal, there's no right for those criminals to live. Human rights are varying and subjective, with many different exceptions and interpretations wherever these rights have been created. Everywhere's rights are different, and everyone's idea or interpretation of these rights is different, and evidently yours is different than mine. If that's your justification for letting them live, then that will be it, and evidently I can't change that opinion, though personally, I don't see that as a justification, as in my opinion there should be no right for them in that case.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24424706]Why not just lock them up forever because it's just as cheap, and it's harder on the killer. You want punishment? They'll punish themselves knowing they have to live with what they did forever.[/QUOTE] And this is where most arguments fall apart. Most killers thrive in the prison system and the ugly truth is that most do not feel any remorse for what they've done? Why? Because they felt so justified that they [b]killed[/b] somebody. There are some that do feel bad, but honestly, that number is extremely small. Many killers have been quoted to say they would have done the same thing, just never gotten caught. Oh, and the average cost to house an inmate is $20,108 a year. That is not cheap. 17% of Americans make less than that in a year. 17% of people live worse off than prisoners.

[QUOTE=Afgman;24424681]I do not know how to get this through your head, but sometimes people will die and sometimes its for the betterment of a country. This is an arbitrary line that can be drawn by anyone that could lead to anyone being killed. You want to give the government more power? People die, why do more people need to needlessly die? Lol, money is an issue to execute someone? Source? Ok, so seeing as you clearly aren't actually educated in this argument, this point will go right over your head. Proving the innocence/guilt of the person your killing costs millions in court fees and etc. Why are you so ignorant of the real world? [B]Same applies for jail,bud.[/B] Your being an idiot of saying I said that somdomist should go to jail. not my fault you don't understand the word sodomy and the difference between sodomy and rape. People are dying in wars right now for nothing, but you are sitting here complaining about a person who killid someone. The person that criminal killid cannot come back to life , and you are a idiot if you think the world can become a perfect place one day. Yes, they sure are. And I'm not advocating wars. You're just trying to kill people for what reason? What's the purpose behind killing these people? It's also "Killed" for fucks sakes. That person can't come back, neither can the killer. So why kill them? [B]Look at my reasons above? Your views will not change because no one ever done anything wrong with you so you just live your life like a happy flower, but when someone kills someone close to you you will feel the pain.[/B] No. They did something wrong. What don't oyu get? Just because they did something wrong DOES NOT MEAN WE FUCKING KILL THEM. You're just fucking bloodthirsty. I want you to feel the pain of a love one dying to a sick and twsited crime. Than your views will change in an instant, and humans will never be perfect being you must always know this.[/QUOTE] I love how fucking dense you are. If a loved one dies, I won't feel relieved by their killers death you blood thirsty fuck. Not everyone is as blood thirsty as you. How do you know no one in my family has ever been harmed? You don't. Same applies for jail? SAME APPLIES FOR JAIL? DO YUO EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE ARGUING? JAIL IS REVERSIBLE. DEATH IS NOT.

[QUOTE=Afgman;24424734]Go fuck your self.[/QUOTE] :aaa: My advice has been taken! Your posts are marginally less stupid now! My work here is done.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;24424756]And this is where most arguments fall apart. Most killers thrive in the prison system and the ugly truth is that most do not feel any remorse for what they've done? Why? Because they felt so justified that they [b]killed[/b] somebody. There are some that do feel bad, but honestly, that number is extremely small. Many killers have been quoted to say they would have done the same thing, just never gotten caught. Oh, and the average cost to house an inmate is $20,108 a year. That is not cheap.[/QUOTE] Reform the prison system. Can you not read me say this over and over again? Blood thirst. That's all it is.

[QUOTE] I think I might have to punch you if I ever meet you in person.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I know you did because you only read your own posts you narcissist[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Please stop posting, no stop talking. Don't write, talk or communicate in any manner ever again.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I think I know how it works a million times better than you do.[/QUOTE] This is exactly the kind of shit that drags a debate down. Can we at least agree that people do bad things and need to be punished accordingly?

If you think that way why have the rights at all? Oh wait no, suddenly killing and raping people isn't illegal anymore.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;24424755]I know I'm going to be yelled at for this, but what right did they have to murder or rape someone? Human rights are a fabrication, created to try and make life better by the governments of the world. What may be a human right somewhere, isn't somewhere else. Human rights are different everywhere, and obviously in places where the death penalty is legal, there's no right for those criminals to live. Human rights are varying and subjective, with many different exceptions and interpretations wherever these rights have been created. Everywhere's rights are different, and everyone's idea or interpretation of these rights is different, and evidently yours is different than mine. If that's your justification for letting them live, then that will be it, and evidently I can't change that opinion, though personally, I don't see that as a justification, as in my opinion there should be no right for them in that case.[/QUOTE] i think we can all agree that KILLING PEOPLE IS BAD. "they did to me so i need to do it to them" why does everyone have this absolutely retarded 6 year old logic of an eye for an eye

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;24424755]I know I'm going to be yelled at for this, but what right did they have to murder or rape someone? Human rights are a fabrication, created to try and make life better by the governments of the world. What may be a human right somewhere, isn't somewhere else. Human rights are different everywhere, and obviously in places where the death penalty is legal, there's no right for those criminals to live. Human rights are varying and subjective, with many different exceptions and interpretations wherever these rights have been created. Everywhere's rights are different, and everyone's idea or interpretation of these rights is different, and evidently yours is different than mine. If that's your justification for letting them live, then that will be it, and evidently I can't change that opinion, though personally, I don't see that as a justification, as in my opinion there should be no right for them in that case.[/QUOTE] Eye for an eye, that's what you're advocating. What does that fix? nothing. Human rights are a fabrication sure, but the government is supposed to follow human rights as part of their very reason for existing. Can you not digest that fact? Giving them the go ahead to kill is a slippery slope. [editline]08:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mabus;24424773]This is exactly the kind of shit that drags a debate down. Can we at least agree that people do bad things and need to be punished accordingly?[/QUOTE] Yes, but is an eye for an eye right? [b]FUCK NO IT ISN'T[/b]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24424762]I love how fucking dense you are. If a loved one dies, I won't feel relieved by their killers death you blood thirsty fuck. Not everyone is as blood thirsty as you. How do you know no one in my family has ever been harmed? You don't. Same applies for jail? SAME APPLIES FOR JAIL? DO YUO EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE ARGUING? JAIL IS REVERSIBLE. DEATH IS NOT.[/QUOTE] You will never understand..

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;24424770]Reform the prison system. Can you not read me say this over and over again? Blood thirst. That's all it is.[/QUOTE] Yeah, reform the prison system? I'm sorry but are you dense (no I'm not calling you stupid)? You call anyone for maintaining the death penalty "blood thirsty" yet you think we can just "reform" the prison system? The prison system is horribly beyond repair. America can barely afford to pay it's bills let alone reform what is currently a money pit. We got better things to worry about.

[QUOTE=Afgman;24424734]Go fuck your self. Why not just lock them up forever because it's just as cheap, and it's harder on the killer. You want punishment? They'll punish themselves knowing they have to live with what they did forever. Yes and you want them to have a worse punishment, why? Just end their lives its cheaper to take someone to court and do a fair trial and just end them.[/QUOTE] Hey, aren't you just a blood thirsty son of a bitch. Barbarian.

criminals don't need to be punished, they need to be rehabilitated. and those that can't be rehabilitated get put in a mental institution.

It can't be okay for you to kill someone for killing someone else if it wasn't okay for them to kill in the first place. Get this through your thick skull pl0x.

[I]An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind[/I] But a twenty year sentence for an eye makes the world a marginally better place. Ah bollocks, The thread has turned into a flame war. fuck it anyway, It was enlightening while it lasted.