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[QUOTE=Fish_poke;39075731]I got an iPhone 4 last Christmas and I will say that it is much more user-friendly than my Droid Incredible ever was (PROTIP: the Incredible was supposed to contend with the iPhone 4) and was only $100 on a contract. After jail-breaking it, it has become even more user-friendly since I can configure it however I want. Calling the iPhone 'trendy' may be true, but that doesn't mean it's a horrible phone.[/QUOTE] That was 2 years ago and yeah, the Droid Incredible was not good at all. Also anything being called "Incredible" on the Verizon network is the biggest joke ever.
Use whichever phone you prefer, whichever phone you can comfortably afford, whichever phone fits what you use a phone for. Why do you care about what others do? It's not like someone using an opposing platform is running into you house and murdering your family by doing so.
[QUOTE=Noth;39075762]Honestly, I hate the fact that to customize your own device, you need to void your warranty, and this is for both Android AND iOS. It's not as big of a problem with the Android, since they do give you a lot of freedom out of the box, but you can't do everything the device is capable of without rooting. But, what puts the icing on the cake is that Apple tried to make jailbreaking illegal, at least in the US[/QUOTE] Just restore it to Factory Defaults and they will never know :v:
[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;39075807]Use whichever phone you prefer, whichever phone you can comfortably afford, whichever phone fits what you use a phone for. Why do you care about what others do? It's not like someone using an opposing platform is running into you house and murdering your family by doing so.[/QUOTE] Life isn't a series of objects and transactions, buddy. The existence of something proves a negative idea in someone elses mind and they do not approve of the existence of the thing they see as a flaw. Don't expect people to see a flaw and not speak out about it. Sure I understand your complaint if it's just blatant hatemongering against other phones., but the world is not a purely choose-what-you-want/need/is affordable world. It revolves around the ideas people base themselves around and the reasons they do so. Most people hate for a reason, even if it may not seem so.
[QUOTE=Noth;39075472]Every 2 years is fine. Releasing upgrades every year when you know your devices are being sold on a 2 year contract (3 year contract in some countries), however, is not.[/QUOTE] Maybe if you had the cash for it you wouldn't have to buy it on 3 year contracts.
I'm pretty sure that when Apple releases a phone they're already working on the next one and they already have a design going into review for the predecessor to the unreleased phone.
[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;39075807]Use whichever phone you prefer, whichever phone you can comfortably afford, whichever phone fits what you use a phone for. Why do you care about what others do? It's not like someone using an opposing platform is running into you house and murdering your family by doing so.[/QUOTE] Just stating for the record that iOS is an inferior, closed platform and people pay more for less.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;39075855]Maybe if you had the cash for it you wouldn't have to buy it on 3 year contracts.[/QUOTE] What do I have to do with this?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39075859]Just stating for the record that iOS is an inferior, closed platform and people pay more for less.[/QUOTE] >inferior That is entirely subjective and you are trying to insert it into an objective statement, for the record. Stop being an elitist prick and admit that people have things called opinions. I enjoy my iPhone and you happen to enjoy things that aren't iPhones.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39075859]Just stating for the record that iOS is an inferior, closed platform and people pay more for less.[/QUOTE] You say "for the record" like it's an universally established fact. I enjoy using my Galaxy S2 lots, but for a supposed flagship unit, it isn't half as stable as any of my friends' iPhone 4 or 4S. It crashes from tonnes of standard apps like Facebook, Gmail, Opera Mini, Weatherzone and even the phone interface. It also does a pretty average job of connecting to 3G when I need it to, where on the same network (Vodafone, which has recently been upgraded) my girlfriend's iPhone has no trouble connecting.
[QUOTE=Noth;39075862]What do I have to do with this?[/QUOTE] You say it's not OK to annually release a new phone because some people are dumb enough to sign 3 year contracts with telephone service providers. So I tried to illustrate the point that that kind of consumers are the victims of their own idiocy and not Apples marketing schemes.
[QUOTE=Fish_poke;39075926]>inferior That is entirely subjective and you are trying to insert it into an objective statement, for the record. Stop being an elitist prick and admit that people have things called opinions. I enjoy my iPhone and you happen to enjoy things that aren't iPhones.[/QUOTE] Don't give me that backpedaling subjective opinion bullshit. Android has features that iOS has lacked for the last 5 years and they're still playing catch up. Maybe 2-3 years from now they'll be caught up to a poorly implemented version of ICS 4.0 in regards to features and hardware support but by then, we'll be running 6.0+
You mean 1% of Android users will be running 6.0. Just like how right now only 0.8% of Android users have 4.2. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] Oh and you put something subjective as a fact, which is what you usually do, and it isn't a valid argument. So if anything was bullshit it was what you said, why are you trying to direct the title of a poor argument at him?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39075481]I'm willing to bet anything that it's going to be another iPhone 4S with minimal changes and a software update. Just your friendly reminder to keep using the cheaper and much more efficient Android.[/QUOTE] but android isn't a phone?? what are you trying to say we should contact google and buy androids???
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39076086]You mean 1% of Android users will be running 6.0. Just like how right now only 0.8% of Android users have 4.2.[/QUOTE] That's primarily because of carrier and manufacturer delays. Google always release the latest AOSP source at the same time they make the update ready for their own Nexus devices. It's the individual manufacturers who need to make their own adjustments for hardware, and in some cases, the carriers to allow an OTA update to be downloaded. That said, it's not like this is unique to Android. Sure, Apple make both the device and the operating system, but people still hang off on updating, mainly because they don't want to lose the unsupported and probably not going to be updated for several weeks/months jailbreak.
It's pretty unique to Android. Go check WP7 and iOS OS stats. There's a big difference between like 20% of users not being on the latest version(due to having a really old iphone or jailbreaking or whatever) and [B]99%[/B] not having the latest version. It doesn't matter why it occurs. Nobody is going to see 6.0 until the next damn major version is out, or maybe even the next. Over 50% of Android devices run Gingerbread. The trend is basically the majority are a few major releases behind. We can discuss WHY it occurs, carriers and OEMs and whatnot. But that's pointless, because we shouldn't be discussing why it occurs at all. Because it shouldn't be occurring in the first place.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39076307]It's pretty unique to Android. Go check WP7 and iOS OS stats. There's a big difference between like 20% of users not being on the latest version(due to having a really old iphone or jailbreaking or whatever) and [B]99%[/B] not having the latest version. It doesn't matter why it occurs. Nobody is going to see 6.0 until the next damn major version is out, or maybe even the next. Over 50% of Android devices run Gingerbread. The trend is basically the majority are a few major releases behind. We can discuss WHY it occurs, carriers and OEMs and whatnot. But that's pointless, because we shouldn't be discussing why it occurs at all. Because it shouldn't be occurring in the first place.[/QUOTE] You want the latest and greatest software? Root it and ROM it or buy the Nexus. That's how it's always been. That's how it's going to be for the foreseeable future but it's easy to talk about Windows Phone and iOS being updated because they're very closed and controlled proprietary operating systems while anyone can release an Android phone. You could literally download the same software the big manufacturers are downloading, load it onto your hardware and sell it. Should every phone get updates within a couple weeks? I think so but blame Motorola and LG and HTC for that. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kaabii;39076307]It's pretty unique to Android. Go check WP7 and iOS OS stats. There's a big difference between like 20% of users not being on the latest version(due to having a really old iphone or jailbreaking or whatever) and [B]99%[/B] not having the latest version. It doesn't matter why it occurs. Nobody is going to see 6.0 until the next damn major version is out, or maybe even the next. Over 50% of Android devices run Gingerbread. The trend is basically the majority are a few major releases behind. We can discuss WHY it occurs, carriers and OEMs and whatnot. But that's pointless, because we shouldn't be discussing why it occurs at all. Because it shouldn't be occurring in the first place.[/QUOTE] Also what does that say about Windows Phone when 20% of the users are stuck on Windows Phone 7.5 for ever, no matter what? Obviously Windows Phone didn't sell that great if the Lumnia 920 and the 8X (the only Windows Phone 8 devices) account for 80% of the market share. Also just to explain for anyone reading, Windows Phone went under a huge overhaul and for some reason, the NT Kernel they were using doesn't work with the new one so they basically had to say "sorry guys but it's for the best" and updated most devices to WP7.8 (which has many of the features Windows Phone 8 has).
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39076307]It's pretty unique to Android. Go check WP7 and iOS OS stats. There's a big difference between like 20% of users not being on the latest version(due to having a really old iphone or jailbreaking or whatever) and [B]99%[/B] not having the latest version. It doesn't matter why it occurs. Nobody is going to see 6.0 until the next damn major version is out, or maybe even the next. Over 50% of Android devices run Gingerbread. The trend is basically the majority are a few major releases behind. We can discuss WHY it occurs, carriers and OEMs and whatnot. But that's pointless, because we shouldn't be discussing why it occurs at all. Because it shouldn't be occurring in the first place.[/QUOTE] Does that >50% figure include devices that are too old to get the latest updates past gingerbread?
[QUOTE=Noth;39076516]Does that >50% figure include devices that are too old to get the latest updates past gingerbread?[/QUOTE] That includes some of the first devices that were made in 2008 that had 500mhz processors and 128mbs of internal storage (relying on SD Cards). 2.3 is still stable. It still functions great and although applications are starting to abandon Gingerbread support in favor of the HoloUI guidelines, it's time for people to get a new phone. If you have a perfectly capable device that is able to run 4.0 with ease, blame your carrier/manufacturer.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39076403] Also what does that say about Windows Phone when 20% of the users are stuck on Windows Phone 7.5 for ever, no matter what? Obviously Windows Phone didn't sell that great if the Lumnia 920 and the 8X (the only Windows Phone 8 devices) account for 80% of the market share. [/QUOTE] That's not what I said. You're inferring things that aren't there to be inferred. I don't even know how you possibly made such a large logical jump, it's absolutely mind boggling and quite frankly horrifying. I specified WP7 for a reason.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39076652]That's not what I said. You're inferring things that aren't there to be inferred. I don't even know how you possibly made such a large logical jump, it's absolutely mind boggling and quite frankly horrifying. I specified WP7 for a reason.[/QUOTE] [quote]Go check WP7 and iOS OS stats. There's a big difference between like 20% of users not being on the latest version(due to having a really old iphone or jailbreaking or whatever) and 99% not having the latest version.[/quote]
The sad thing is that Apple has already blew it. I've never been more satisfied with a phone than my iPhone 4, and I waited for 6 months for iPhone 5, only to get really disappointed. So I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I've never ever been more happy. I really don't know what I found so good about iOS.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39077598]FTFY.[/QUOTE] I can tell the same shit about the iPhone UI. It's the question of preference, really.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39077598]FTFY.[/QUOTE] [t]http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Samsung-Galaxy-S-captivate.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/galaxy-s21.jpg[/t] [t]http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/product_media/40002573/image7/440x330-samsung-galaxy-note-2-portrait.jpg[/t] vs [t]http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/09/17/06_archimedes_35438535_620x433.jpg[/t] I'll take the first three any day over that bland grid-based interface where you can literally do nothing to change it. It's cluttered. It's ugly and unlike TouchWiz, you see what you get and you're stuck with it.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39077715]Its tasteful enough not to make pissing noises whenever you touch the screen though.[/QUOTE] You mean the water "inspired by nature" sound that turn off if you click a button?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39077745]Aaand the fact the current Samsung flagship has the durability of a wet paper bag. The case literally couldn't be more scratch prone and slippery.[/QUOTE] Have had my Galaxy S3 for several months (before the official release date in fact) and it hasn't slipped out of my hand once and there isn't a scratch on it. No case, no screen protector. Nothing. Feels great in the hand, would I have preferred something other than a hard plastic? Sure but plastic doesn't heat up like aluminum and glass.
something tells me daniel m doesnt like apple
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39077745]Aaand the fact the current Samsung flagship has the durability of a wet paper bag. The case literally couldn't be more scratch prone and slippery.[/QUOTE] how about the scratches on the back plate of the iphone 5 or the soft aluminium that causes dents/chipping all phones have issues
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39077756]Have had my Galaxy S3 for several months (before the official release date in fact) and it hasn't slipped out of my hand once and there isn't a scratch on it. No case, no screen protector. Nothing. Feels great in the hand, would I have preferred something other than a hard plastic? Sure but plastic doesn't heat up like aluminum and glass.[/QUOTE] Usually the devices don't heat up to anything abnormal unless there is a problem with the device, the most hot it'll get usually just feels slightly warm. On another note, my plastic HTC desire sometimes heated up a hell of a lot, so plastic doesn't always save you
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