Steam Livingroom? Steambox? - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jvs;42262447]The initial big picture video had something like that too iirc, it might just be nothing you know.[/QUOTE] -snip-

Oh shit I just realized something. If the steambox becomes a thing, that'll obviously mean the controllers will be very PC friendly. Boy I hope the Dpad is good.

[QUOTE=Kegan;42262661]Boy I hope the Dpad is good.[/QUOTE] I [I]demand[/I] separate buttons. None of this terrible rocker bullshit.

I see a backwards E in the planet.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;42256792]I thought the steam box would pretty much just be a linux PC with steam in a fancy case.[/QUOTE] but it will be marketed as a console, with a custom made Linux distro made just for the Steambox and the OS would have controller navigation in addition to the traditional PC and Mouse navigation

I would be totally fine with that as long as it can actually play most games at a decent framerate and not have a giant pricetag.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;42264275]I would be totally fine with that as long as it can actually play most games at a decent framerate and not have a giant pricetag.[/QUOTE] since most consoles are sold at a loss, my guess is the Steambox will be sold at a much larger loss and Valve will make it up with Steam sales. After all Gabe said on several occasions that the PC hardware will be very high and at a low price, to which people wondered how it was possible.

If it's decent I might actually get this thing, I was planning on building a PC but kept putting it off.

[QUOTE=danharibo;42258172]The features in OpenGL 4+ are still high-end techniques, and Mavericks is not a large upgrade. Oh no? AMD and nVidia are on the OpenGL ARB, and they both have stringent tests to ensure they conform to the specification, so yeah they do actually give a shit.[/QUOTE] Considering that like one-two years ago AMD barely implemented OpenGL 2.1 properly, I dont really think thats the case

[QUOTE=The Baconator;42264414]since most consoles are sold at a loss, my guess is the Steambox will be sold at a much larger loss and Valve will make it up with Steam sales. After all Gabe said on several occasions that the PC hardware will be very high and at a low price, to which people wondered how it was possible.[/QUOTE] Yeah they'll probably end up making all that money back from the steam store. If this is what happens, i still want the ability to also use stuff like photoshop and make skins, and mess with files, mods and all that. [editline]21st September 2013[/editline] Especially so i can get rid of all the clutter that'd amount from going on TF2 or Killing Floor servers after awhile i mean JESUS.

I would love for Valve to make their own customer controller support driver or something. Like, it enables controller support for every game on steam, and make it so that you can download custom controller layouts from Steam Workshop or something. This way, people can add profiles for nearly every game. Sure some games wouldn't work, but a lot of games would

[QUOTE=Over-Run;42266089]I would love for Valve to make their own customer controller support driver or something. Like, it enables controller support for every game on steam, and make it so that you can download custom controller layouts from Steam Workshop or something. This way, people can add profiles for nearly every game. Sure some games wouldn't work, but a lot of games would[/QUOTE] This would be perfect. Make it happen Valve, please. I really don't want to get a 360 controller, those Dpads are horrible. Wasn't there old prototypes of the Steambox controller with swappable thumbsticks and shit?

In other news billions of Team Fortress 2 players commit mass suicide over the fall of their economy, as rare items where added to the games drop system.

[QUOTE=Ryukrawr?;42270078]In other news billions of Team Fortress 2 players commit mass suicide over the fall of their economy, as rare items where added to the games drop system.[/QUOTE] The fuck you talkin' about?

[QUOTE=NoFaTe;42262440]Sorry if late, but did anyone else notice that the controller in the image is made out of two layers of cardboard paper? Not sure what it could mean (if anything)...[/QUOTE] prototype maybe????

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/i4nrBI3.png[/IMG] Black Mesa Source 2 confirmed.

[QUOTE=Kegan;42270058]This would be perfect. Make it happen Valve, please. I really don't want to get a 360 controller, those Dpads are horrible. Wasn't there old prototypes of the Steambox controller with swappable thumbsticks and shit?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2012-03-03/SteamController.png[/img] Its actually a really nice looking design. The ball would probably help with that precision problem controllers have, not sure how much, but it'd probably be better than a joystick. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] Notice how its two sets of buttons too. No d-pad. or at least, no single piece of plastic.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;42270390][img]http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2012-03-03/SteamController.png[/img] Its actually a really nice looking design. The ball would probably help with that precision problem controllers have, not sure how much, but it'd probably be better than a joystick. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] Notice how its two sets of buttons too. No d-pad. or at least, no single piece of plastic.[/QUOTE] I just love to touch balls, too.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42270456]I just love to touch balls, too.[/QUOTE] Who doesnt.

[QUOTE=Farrelm;42256912]clearly its a virtual living room that you can design and show your friends :D[/QUOTE] If Steam turned into Animal Crossing my life would officially end

I really don't care for Steambox. I don't trust Valve coding wise and I don't trust them business wise. The only reason they can do any of this is Steam. If they hadn't released it, they'd be in the same boat as every other company and its pretty obvious with Portal 2.

[QUOTE=Swilly;42272942]I really don't care for Steambox. I don't trust Valve coding wise and I don't trust them business wise. The only reason they can do any of this is Steam. If they hadn't released it, they'd be in the same boat as every other company and its pretty obvious with Portal 2.[/QUOTE] "The only reason they can do any of this is Windows. If Microsoft hadn't released it, they'd be in the same boat as every other company..." Are you dumb?

[QUOTE=Swilly;42272942]I really don't care for Steambox. I don't trust Valve coding wise and I don't trust them business wise. The only reason they can do any of this is Steam. If they hadn't released it, they'd be in the same boat as every other company and its pretty obvious with Portal 2.[/QUOTE] "I don't trust this company. The only reason they can keep developing is [VERY SUCCESSFUL SERVICE]. If they hadn't released it, they would be in the same boat as every other company, and it's pretty obvious with [SECONDARY, STILL SUCCESSFUL, PRODUCT].

I wish there was some sort of expansion on the trading cards, this may have nothing to do with the new steam features coming, but there could've at least been a sort of steam top trumps.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;42270390][img]http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2012-03-03/SteamController.png[/img] Its actually a really nice looking design. The ball would probably help with that precision problem controllers have, not sure how much, but it'd probably be better than a joystick. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] Notice how its two sets of buttons too. No d-pad. or at least, no single piece of plastic.[/QUOTE] oh shit that looks legit as fuck my friend used to play fps games exclusively with one of those ball mouses, he owned

Probably late as fuck/useless, but the unlocked glyph images are on the server. Other images might be already uploaded as well [img]http://cdn2.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/glyph_02_a.png[/img] [img]http://cdn2.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/glyph_02_b.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Pw0nageXD;42273377]Probably known/useless, but the unlocked glyph images are on the server. Other images might be already uploaded as well [img]http://cdn2.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/glyph_02_a.png[/img] [img]http://cdn2.store.steampowered.com/public/images/promo/livingroom/glyph_02_b.png[/img][/QUOTE] Hm. I get the feeling that circle thing might be their equivalent of the four-segment circle on the 360 controller. Maybe two circles, both in halves?

I think the first will be the console, the second will be the controller and maybe other peripherals, and the O+O will be something social, like further uncovering of the game sharing across accounts or whatever.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42273143]"I don't trust this company. The only reason they can keep developing is [VERY SUCCESSFUL SERVICE]. If they hadn't released it, they would be in the same boat as every other company, and it's pretty obvious with [SECONDARY, STILL SUCCESSFUL, PRODUCT].[/QUOTE] A very successful buggy as fuck service that pretty much has a monopolistic hold on PC gaming sales. And it doesn't matter if its successful if its a sequel to highly successful game. Sequels usually sell just as well as the previous ones. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Stopper;42273086]"The only reason they can do any of this is Windows. If Microsoft hadn't released it, they'd be in the same boat as every other company..." Are you dumb?[/QUOTE] Actually, that's not what I'm driving at. STEAM brings in a ton of money, its why they can sit on their ass and do absolutely nothing. Great they brought it to Linux, if its not Ubuntu or a similar Debian disto, you have to use workarounds. Steam itself is buggy as fuck. They've killed off the modding community for the most part or tried to with Portal 2 and their support is going away. Gabe himself has these moments of flip flopping. Steam itself is DRM, although its called 'non-intrusive' DRM and while we're buying a game digitially with none of the overhead costs of production of the CDs we somehow still pay the full price. Yeah guys, Valve is great. They've set themselves up with Greenlight to become a publisher, a really shitty publisher at that because of how slow Greenlight was and is. If your game is not on Steam, an Indie Bundle or Minecraft your sales will drop into oblivion after that initial press releases.

[QUOTE=Swilly;42273568]A very successful buggy as fuck service that pretty much has a monopolistic hold on PC gaming sales. And it doesn't matter if its successful if its a sequel to highly successful game. Sequels usually sell just as well as the previous ones. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] Actually, that's not what I'm driving at. STEAM brings in a ton of money, its why they can sit on their ass and do absolutely nothing. Great they brought it to Linux, if its not Ubuntu or a similar Debian disto, you have to use workarounds. Steam itself is buggy as fuck. They've killed off the modding community for the most part or tried to with Portal 2 and their support is going away. Gabe himself has these moments of flip flopping. Steam itself is DRM, although its called 'non-intrusive' DRM and while we're buying a game digitially with none of the overhead costs of production of the CDs we somehow still pay the full price. Yeah guys, Valve is great. They've set themselves up with Greenlight to become a publisher, a really shitty publisher at that because of how slow Greenlight was and is. If your game is not on Steam, an Indie Bundle or Minecraft your sales will drop into oblivion after that initial press releases.[/QUOTE] Um, what? Greenlight has been introduced to massively speed up the self publishing process and gives chance to developers who otherwise would have hard time finding guarantees and support of any other publisher (case in point - Super Hot). Yeah, steam [I]is[/I] buggy, but there are far worse things around, and the bugs it has are barely ever of character which would hamper the core functionality - providing games. Speaking about killing off modding community - well, that's what 90% of today devs do, as modding gets in the way of DLC/cosmetic optinal items. Don't hate Valve, hate the economic system. And excuse-the-fuck me? Paying full price? Can you point me to the shop where I get three years old AAA titles for often as little as $5 on sales? Also, they might not provide CDs but they provide nigh non-stop ondemand download and I can install pretty much any game I have bought before and install it within 30 minutes, they keep my saves, and I don't have to worry about losing them by scratching a disk or misplacing it. Not to mention the "unfairly high" cost where the games cost the same while they don't hand out CDs goes to the devs, as Valve gives the developers far higher margin (partially also included in free advertising and cataloguing they provide) than big publishers do. [editline]22nd September 2013[/editline] I have my own beefs with Valve (€ = $, shitty avatar limitations, /me removal) but most of your post is incoherent spiteful rambly horseshit.