[QUOTE=Van The Pimp;27595355]Umm this seems completely dumb and not necessary. They might as well make a new class called "Homosexual Studies".[/QUOTE]
Teaches tolerance: education is the only solution to ignorance.
How is it a stupid idea to try and slay ignorance?
And classes aren't being set up you dolt, it's minor changes to the cirriculum to make the ideas seem less alien to people at an early age.
That's it, nothing less, nothing more.
my point is, there is a [b]big[/b] fucking difference between tolerance and counter-indoctrination.
brainwashing them harder and better than their parents shouldn't be your goal, no matter how good the idea is.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27599205]It doesn't mean I hate blacks I just find them gross
johan can you try to go a week without posting something bigoted[/QUOTE]
"You find it disgusting listening to your parents having sex, you obviously hate your parents".
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603591]my point is, there is a [b]big[/b] fucking difference between tolerance and counter-indoctrination.
brainwashing them harder and better than their parents shouldn't be your goal, no matter how good the idea is.[/QUOTE]
how is it brainwashing? it's not like these are specific classes in which they are told again and again GAY IS GOOD GAY IS GOOD GAY IS GOOD it is additions to the existing curriculum with the intention of allowing children to accept gays as people rather than having them see gays as bizarre and different
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603591]my point is, there is a [b]big[/b] fucking difference between tolerance and counter-indoctrination.
brainwashing them harder and better than their parents shouldn't be your goal, no matter how good the idea is.[/QUOTE]
HOW IS IT BRAINWASHING!?!?!?
It's like trying to talk to a brick wall with a fuckin ball gag in your mouth and get a worthwhile conversation going!
Introduction =/= indoctrination
[QUOTE=bravehat;27603610]HOW IS IT BRAINWASHING!?!?!?
It's like trying to talk to a brick wall with a fuckin ball gag in your mouth and get a worthwhile conversation going!
Introduction =/= indoctrination[/QUOTE]
So i'm just introducing the idea to my children that gay people are influenced by the devil and will ultimately end up in the lake of fire, what's the big deal bro? it's true. [/derp]
I really wish for once our Government would try to get a message accross without using Subliminal messages in some way. Our R.S teacher told us that last year the he had to incorperate some sort of healthy eating message or fitness message into his lessons. Or recently I had a physics exam and half the answers were, it harms the enviroment and half the question mentioned how we use reneable or clear sources. I'm not against the messages, I'm against how they're being communicated. It's so immoral how we don't get a choice in what we believe so the government piles all this shit on top of us until they make us believe what they want. I'd be more willing to accept policital correctness and helping the enviroment etc... if it wasn't forced on me.
/rant
"Look at me, I'm going to post fallacies instead of handling the argument, oh look at me go planting all of my strawmen wheee look at me go! no on can stop my army of strawmen!"
See there's a crucial difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying, mines is a product of modern day human civilised thought, whereas yours just isn't
[QUOTE=bravehat;27603700]"Look at me, I'm going to post fallacies instead of handling the argument, oh look at me go planting all of my strawmen wheee look at me go! no on can stop my army of strawmen!"
See there's a crucial difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying, mines is a product of modern day human civilised thought, whereas yours just isn't[/QUOTE]
They aren't my ideas and they sure as fuck aren't yours either. My point is indoctrination is wrong no matter who does it. Playing at their game doesn't make you any more morally superior than they are.
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603715]They aren't my ideas and they sure as fuck aren't yours either. My point is indoctrination is wrong no matter who does it. Playing at their game doesn't make you any more morally superior than they are.[/QUOTE]
but this ISN'T indoctrination...
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27603728]but this ISN'T indoctrination...[/QUOTE]
Reaching children before their bigoted parents do, what the fuck would you call it?
If it's truly education why not reach them when they're at an age to reasonably question what you tell them. Why not let them decide instead of pushing your shit in their face in 1st grade because you have the moral high ground?
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603715]They aren't my ideas and they sure as fuck aren't yours either. My point is indoctrination is wrong no matter who does it. Playing at their game doesn't make you any more morally superior than they are.[/QUOTE]
...2 major problems with what you just said.
1. I never said they were our ideas.
2. I couldn't give a flying fuck about morals, they're obsolete and are used as excuses to often, they're a cancer of humanity and they need to be destroyed, instead everyone should live life like a hedonist, seeking happiness for themselves and those around them and fighting to reduce suffering for themselves and those they love.
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603743]Reaching children before their bigoted parents do, what the fuck would you call it?
If it's truly education why not reach them when they're at an age to reasonably question what you tell them. Why not let them decide instead of pushing your shit in their face in 1st grade because you have the moral high ground?[/QUOTE]
ok so educating anything that's goes contrary to a parents point of views is indoctrination?
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603743]Reaching children before their bigoted parents do, what the fuck would you call it?
If it's truly education why not reach them when they're at an age to reasonably question what you tell them. Why not let them decide instead of pushing your shit in their face in 1st grade because you have the moral high ground?[/QUOTE]
It's not about morals you testicle gargling gob shite, it's about teaching them to treat all people as humans no matter what their sexual preferences, skin colour or whatever might be.
[QUOTE=bravehat;27603780]It's not about moral you testicle gargling gob shite, it's about teaching them to treat all people as humans no matter what their sexual preferences, skin colour or whatever might be.[/QUOTE]
yeah you could consider it an logic issue, i mean, there is nothing logical about children growing up to hate a certain group.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27603779]ok so educating anything that's goes contrary to a parents point of views is indoctrination?[/QUOTE]
When it comes to young people and moral issues, yes. It would be like telling a 1st grader communism is the only solution.
I'm not even saying the idea is wrong, I'm saying how you're "teaching" people is wrong.
The idea is right, [b]in my opinion[/b] and if it is right ultimately it will become truth, there is no need to fuck with children's brains to get my point across.
[quote]Maths – teaching statistics through census findings about the number of homosexuals in the population, and using gay characters in scenarios for maths problems;
Design and technology – encouraging pupils to make symbols linked to the gay rights movement;
Science – studying animal species where the male takes a leading role in raising young, such as emperor penguins and sea horses, and staging class discussions on different family structures, including same-sex parents;
Geography – examining the transformation of San Francisco's Castro district in the 1960s from a working-class Irish area to the world's first "gay neighbourhood", and considering why homosexuals move from the countryside to cities;
Languages – using gay characters in role play scenarios, and teaching "LGBT vocabulary". [/quote]
That doesn't sound that bad. Don't know why everyone is freaking out about it on the first page.
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603807]When it comes to young people and moral issues, yes. It would be like telling a 1st grader communism is the only solution.
I'm not even saying the idea is wrong, I'm saying how you're "teaching" people is wrong.
The idea is right, [B]in my opinion[/B] and if it is right ultimately it will become truth, there is no need to fuck with children's brains to get my point across.[/QUOTE]
It's cute how you think just because it's true it'll become widely accepted fact.
And stop saying it's a moral issue, cause it isn't, and if it is to anyone then they need their head checked because they are equating sticking your dick in a certain hole to how righteous a person is and drawing links to things where there are no links.
I don't see a problem as long as it isn't oversaturated.
$35k as far as the government is concerned isn't anything big.
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603807]
The idea is right, [b]in my opinion[/b] and if it is right ultimately it will become truth, there is no need to fuck with children's brains to get my point across.[/QUOTE]
teaching children tolerance isn't "fucking with their brains" any more than teaching them that cheating is wrong
seems like a closet homophobics overreaction
[QUOTE=s0beit;27603807]When it comes to young people and moral issues, yes. It would be like telling a 1st grader communism is the only solution.
I'm not even saying the idea is wrong, I'm saying how you're "teaching" people is wrong.
The idea is right, [b]in my opinion[/b] and if it is right ultimately it will become truth, there is no need to fuck with children's brains to get my point across.[/QUOTE]
i dunno, gays have had it pretty rough for the past 1500 years or whatever, so if you think it'll ultimately become truth, it sure is taking a while
oh noo £35,000 (which is basically fucking nothing when it comes to most government programs) for a slightly changed curriculum that schools have the choice of taking or not.
stop whining you dumbshits.
WAit, this costs 35,000 dollars?
That's it?
My god, why the fuck are people moaning, this is a flash in the pan.
[QUOTE=Varg Vikernes;27596051]This makes me think of when my math books and shit in school try to be racially diverse and fail by just throwing around random Arab and Asian names mixed with white names.[/QUOTE]
You should read British SATs tests.
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;27602086]It's probably stuff like "At Ben and John's wedding there are 40 people attending and 42 chairs, how many possible combinations of seating arrangements are there?" instead of Ben and Susie's wedding
I forget this shit how many combinations are there anyway?
I know it's probably billions[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AlienFanatic;27595364]alright childern
what is the velocity a penis travels at while packing fudge[/QUOTE]
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shame the equations don't incorporate relativity.
But why do we need to do this especially for homosexuals. And why does it need to be incorporated into every class.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27604789]But why do we need to do this especially for homosexuals. And why does it need to be incorporated into every class.[/QUOTE]
It just seems to be how america handles minorities, it was probably the same with blacks after the whole slavery business. Either way, it'll help so there's no point complaining.
I am gay and study geography at a higher level, it's gay enough as it is without adding more to it.
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