Epic Games, Disappointed With Next Gen Consoles And Calls Out EA CTO - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40765019]this is completely false. they performed bad in the past because developers weren't optimizing games for them, and windows also wasn't utilizing them properly. my fx-8150 outperforms all intel CPUs on most demanding games that have come out recently. I get an extra 70 FPS on metro last light just because of my processor, and last light was developed for intel processors.[/QUOTE] one antecedence != the facts: [url]http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/multi-core-and-multi-threading/[/url]

too bad epic doesnt give a damn shit about pc gaming

[QUOTE=C4rnage;40765306]too bad epic doesnt give a damn shit about pc gaming[/QUOTE] They like to pretend though.

[QUOTE=Bomimo;40765196]Ok. 70? just no. But yeah, the 8150 started out doing shit, until recently.[/QUOTE] I get 120 fps on max settings (32x CSAA instead of SSAA) most of the time, the lowest it dropped was to 90 and that was only in one area. the intel processors that are considered counterparts to the 8150 get 45-70 with the same gpu, with an average of 58. so 50-65 more FPS, not quite 70. edit: noteworthy that this is after the AMD patch for last light which drastically increased my performance and stability

EA CTO is extremely ignorant when it comes to gaming lol, thats just way too ironic... EA, game publishers, their CTO doesn't know about gaming So EA's CTO walks into a game store...

[QUOTE=fudge blood;40764276]why can't video games just be video games come on[/QUOTE] Money

I get what you guys mean but the dev's tweet doesn't have anything to do with PC being better other than its power.

[QUOTE=C4rnage;40765306]too bad epic doesnt give a damn shit about pc gaming[/QUOTE] you realise you're saying the company that owns the unreal engine, the engine that is free to anyone and has changed the indie market exponentially, is ridiculously easy to use, and has brilliant publishing options, doesn't give a shit about pc gaming? how dumb

meanwhile CliffyB is sucking the corporate teet if you look at his twitter maybe this is why he left Epic, because they were sick of his bullshit

It's true, the UDK is just a toolkit for console developers :downs:

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;40767213]meanwhile CliffyB is sucking the corporate teet if you look at his twitter maybe this is why he left Epic, because they were sick of his bullshit[/QUOTE] did you know you can have opinions that are against the grain [I]without[/I] being a "corporate dick sucker?"

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40767148]you realise you're saying the company that owns the unreal engine, the engine that is free to anyone and has changed the indie market exponentially, is ridiculously easy to use, and has brilliant publishing options, doesn't give a shit about pc gaming? how dumb[/QUOTE] Don't forget to mention that was years ago (or whatever) while the Epic of today said there wouldn't be a Bulletstorm 2 because of pirates. And I really wanted a sequel.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40767607]did you know you can have opinions that are against the grain [I]without[/I] being a "corporate dick sucker?"[/QUOTE] have you actually seen some of the things he's been saying though? ''EA is good'',''adam orth is good'', ''microsoft is good'' etc. clearly his brain has been infiltrated by nano-machines. [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dass;40767747]Don't forget to mention that was years ago (or whatever) while the Epic of today said there wouldn't be a Bulletstorm 2 because of pirates. And I really wanted a sequel.[/QUOTE] so, the game is on ps3 and xbox 360 and they blame pirates for low sales. have they ever considered people didn't buy it because it was an extremely generic FPS with the worst dialog any game has had this gen? no, obviously not. it was those goddam pirates with their little ships :@

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40767607]did you know you can have opinions that are against the grain [I]without[/I] being a "corporate dick sucker?"[/QUOTE] literally all of Cliffy's shitty "opinions" have been "the player is always wrong", "always online is great, you're just entitled", and "phil fish is my best bud"

[QUOTE=Mandems;40764479]for the money you'd pay for the new ps4, you can EASILY get equivalent hardware for your computer, if you bought them from amazon for example[/QUOTE] TLDR; You cannot build a ps4 from PC parts. But you literally cannot buy GDDR5 RAM for system RAM... Also Sony can sidestep a lot of overhead to cut costs, including Operating system costs and the fact they already own rights to things like Bluray. Also, no one sells at a loss on the PC parts market, yet a company like Sony could get away with that. [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/25/you-cant-build-a-ps4-why-sonys-next-console-is-truly-next-gen-and-your-pc-isnt/[/url] This describes it pretty well, and includes other details like the fact the memory will be unified between the CPU and GPU, something that I believe doesn't happen yet to PCs. I don't care about ratings but I want to hear your opinion about this. What I said is true, so what do you disagree with? I'm saying that it's incomparable to a PC especially because the components cannot be bought (though you can buy better parts, but can you get the same deal for it?)

Consoles were all about games on your TV, sitting on your couch playing all night with your mates. An entire arcade in your own home for an affordable price PS4 is closer to that. Xbox is just pumping out a social hub with playing games as more of an after thought. There's nothing the new Xbox or PS4 can do that a PC can't do, and a Console isn't even supposed to. I wish they'd stop trying to sell it like it does

[QUOTE=TheTalon;40768811]Consoles were all about games on your TV, sitting on your couch playing all night with your mates. An entire arcade in your own home for an affordable price PS4 is closer to that. Xbox is just pumping out a social hub with playing games as more of an after thought. There's nothing the new Xbox or PS4 can do that a PC can't do, and a Console isn't even supposed to. I wish they'd stop trying to sell it like it does[/QUOTE] Just because one has additional tv features does not mean games are suddenly an afterthought. Unless you got an actual source to prove that. They're focusing on what's new, not what's already there. Wait for E3 and then we can judge.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;40764537]for my computer it was about $1K and it will probably last 6 maybe 8 years before its outdated, and with steam sales ill probably be saving like 600$ a year in games maybe. [B]A PC is a great investment if you are into gaming compared to consoles[/B].[/QUOTE] To expand on this: Last year my friend decided to build his first gaming PC, spent about a little less than $1,000 on it. His specs aside (which are quite good and he won't need to bother upgrading for the next 4 years), he then spent about $150 give or take a few dollars on the Steam summer sale, bought 62 games. I'm going to be generous and say that they were all originally worth $20 (which most were definitely not), that would have cost $1,240 before tax (and for the record Steam doesn't tax him). I'll even be more generous and say the games were worth $10, which I feel is the lowest you're going to find a modern generation "used" game at -- this would be consistent with waiting for the sale and not buying the games at launch -- we're at $620, before tax. The numbers should speak for themselves. If you're into gaming the PC is the only investment to make. Consoles only save you money on the immediate purchase; in the long term the PC will save you far more on gaming costs. In addition to that, it's already backwards compatible with everything previous on its platform and also (through emulation) has previous consoles "built-in". Add the potential million of other uses a PC has and there is clearly only one thing that can be called an investment. It's never been debatable, but with the advent of Steam and other online distributors it's now factually (versus before being common sense, because more was needed apparently) better to invest in the PC. Whether you use a PC for its million-and-one uses or not doesn't change the fact the PC can do a million-and-one things and has that value; a Console can barely do a dozen things and will only ever have that value, which will actually decrease drastically within a quick time period as the hardware ages and another generation comes out thereby devaluing the primary purpose of the console. Consoles are not an investment, they are merely proof that the consumer doesn't understand a damn thing about money.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40767148]you realise you're saying the company that owns the unreal engine, the engine that is free to anyone and has changed the indie market exponentially, is ridiculously easy to use, and has brilliant publishing options, doesn't give a shit about pc gaming? how dumb[/QUOTE] i am saying they dont make a good pc game since 2004, infact i dont see epic has a game developer anymore, i see them has a engine developer. the engine isnt really free.

[QUOTE=C4rnage;40770156]i am saying they dont make a good pc game since 2004, infact i dont see epic has a game developer anymore, i see them has a engine developer. the engine isnt really free.[/QUOTE] lol I know the newer games aren't really that good, at least with unreal but [t]http://valawyersweekly.com/files/2009/12/important-ops-logo.jpg[/t] yeah because your opinion on how they aren't a good game dev totally changes their opinion on PC

The intricate comparisons in hardware between the PS4, XB1, and PC are futile. PC will always dominate in the long run