Red Dead Redemption just appeared on the Compatibility Center of Windows - Polidicks

I wish for a "HD" updated RDR for Xbox1, PS4 and PC, and hopefully bundled with GTA V! :dance: Probably wont happen but a man can dream!

As much as I'd like this to happen it doesn't seem likely.

If this goes through and we do get a port, I will have a new addiction

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44789105]Pixar once almost lost all of Toy Story 2, only saved because an employee on leave kept a local backup. Saying that a big company can't lose all their work simply because they're big seems falicious.[/QUOTE] You'd expect a big developer like Rockstar to have some kind of version control system like Git or Hg in use. So even if every single one of their working machines exploded overnight for no reason, as long as at least one of the version control servers survived they'd lose little to no work.

According to google cache, this has been there since August,2013. Hype dead.

[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;44789946]According to google cache, this has been there since August,2013. Hype dead.[/QUOTE] but revealed just now right? someone would have noticed by now

[QUOTE=Zazibar;44788610]This is a possibility, Microsoft have stated that they're trying to revamp their offerings in the PC gaming space after all. That makes me fearful of a GFWL 2.0 situation though.[/QUOTE] Microsoft has made some very decent software the last few years. While I doubt that we'd get a GFWL, I'm pretty sure that it would be much, much better than the old "offering".

[QUOTE=autodesknoob;44789971]but revealed just now right? someone would have noticed by now[/QUOTE] how many people pay attention to the compatability centre? [editline]12th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;44790200]Microsoft has made some very decent software the last few years. While I doubt that we'd get a GFWL, I'm pretty sure that it would be much, much better than the old "offering".[/QUOTE] aren't microsoft using steamworks for their non metro games now?

[QUOTE=Delta616;44788938]Tell that to Max Payne 3 PC, and the fact the are taking their time porting GTA V instead of rushing it and releasing a bad port.[/QUOTE] why dont they just release the PC version at the same time as the console version instead of making us wait a year? vote with your wallets, if you dont want to feel like the ugly forgotten third child then dont allow devs to make you feel that way

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790498]why dont they just release the PC version at the same time as the console version instead of making us wait a year? vote with your wallets, if you dont want to feel like the ugly forgotten third child then dont allow devs to make you feel that way[/QUOTE] Testing for the PC version to ensure it actually works and scales up and down through the supposedly supported hardware takes quite a bit of time (and money), not to mention any bug fixes that might need to be done in that time. Whereas the console one is quick and easy to test in comparison. Might as well throw the console versions out if they're working whilst you finish up on the PC version. At least, that's how I'd see it as a developer.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44790564]Testing for the PC version to ensure it actually works and scales up and down through the supposedly supported hardware takes quite a bit of time (and money), not to mention any bug fixes that might need to be done in that time. Whereas the console one is quick and easy to test in comparison. Might as well throw the console versions out if they're working whilst you finish up on the PC version. At least, that's how I'd see it as a developer.[/QUOTE] So what? Different platforms have different requirements, doesn't mean they can't release the game at the same time. Historically PC versions for a lot of games have been released at the same time as console versions, this whole "release the PC version much later" is a new phenomenon.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790578]So what? Different platforms have different requirements, doesn't mean they can't release the game at the same time.[/QUOTE] If you've got a product ready to ship, and another still needing some work, when the products don't actually interact with each other (they don't share MP or anything, maybe the Social Club stuff at most), might as well chuck the completed one on the market and gauge public response to it whilst making some profit. If they find bugs you missed you can still fix them in the unfinished platform version before release for a smoother launch whilst you're at it too.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44790605]If you've got a product ready to ship, and another still needing some work, when the products don't actually interact with each other (they don't share MP or anything, maybe the Social Club stuff at most), might as well chuck the completed one on the market and gauge public response to it whilst making some profit. If they find bugs you missed you can still fix them in the unfinished platform version before release for a smoother launch whilst you're at it too.[/QUOTE] Or they can just allot resources correctly and release them all at the same time? "still needing some work" is a bullshit excuse "The product is done but we cant give it to you because we didn't port it to your platform" "why didn't you just hire some software developers and release it on time?" "THE PRODUCT STILL NEEDS WORK"

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790498]why dont they just release the PC version at the same time as the console version instead of making us wait a year?[/QUOTE] That's not how it works at all. Triple-A business isn't about being cool and generous, it's about turning a profit. A simultaneous PC version is a major loss of profit, compared to releasing it a few months later and make millions of people buy it again for PC, like they always have with every GTA. The only way that could be possible is if they pushed back the [i]console[/i] versions of the game until the PC version was complete, which would be more than a year from the initial "spring 2013" release date. I'd love to see your reaction then. [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790606] "why didn't you just hire some software developers and release it on time?"[/QUOTE] The most accurate representation of software development ever seen.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;44790616]That's not how it works at all. Triple-A business isn't about being cool and generous, it's about turning a profit. A simultaneous PC version is a major loss of profit, [B]compared to releasing it a few months later and make millions of people buy it again for PC,[/B] like they always have with every GTA. [/QUOTE] right well theres the issue, theyre treating certain consumers as second class citizens so they can charge them twice for the same product. maybe if this stopped happening then they would release the pc version at the same time. theyre making us wait because a lot of people are fucking stupid. which comes back to my first point, dont buy late games.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790627]right well theres the issue, theyre treating certain consumers as second class citizens so they can charge them twice for the same product. maybe if this stopped happening then they would release the pc version at the same time.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and they'd also be out of a shitload of money for the sake of being "~nice guys~" to their consumer base. If you're so tired of being treated like a "second class citizen" then it's [i]your choice[/i] whether to buy it at all, they're not forcing you to buy it twice, let alone once. [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790627]theyre making us wait because a lot of people are fucking stupid. which comes back to my first point, dont buy late games.[/QUOTE] The opposite, giving up a lot of profit just because you're so cool and righteous, would be 'fucking stupid'.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;44790643]Yeah, and they'd also be out of a shitload of money for the sake of being "~nice guys~" to their consumer base. If you're so tired of being treated like a "second class citizen" then it's [i]your choice[/i] whether to buy it at all, they're not forcing you to buy it twice, let alone once.[/QUOTE] im not asking them to be nice guys, im trying to understand why anybody would buy a game twice or would be willing to wait half a decade for a port. [editline]12th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;44790643]The opposite, giving up a lot of profit just because you're so cool and righteous, would be 'fucking stupid'.[/QUOTE] what are you even talking about? im asking why consumers have the attention span of a gnat and are willing to part with their money anytime a developer farts.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790654]im not asking them to be nice guys, im trying to understand why anybody would buy a game twice or would be willing to wait half a decade for a port.[/QUOTE] They buy it for current-gen consoles because they want to play it now instead of wait for the PC version, and when the PC version comes out much later, they buy it again to mod it and play with their friends or get better graphics -- or they don't, because they don't care about those things. It's an extremely common and reasonable process. The alternative, releasing both at the same time, would have not that many people buy it for current-gen consoles and just buy it on PC instead, and thus Rockstar loses potentially several million dollars that would've been theirs using the other method. That's why.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;44790694]They buy it for current-gen consoles because they want to play it now instead of wait for the PC version, and when the PC version comes out much later, they buy it again to mod it and play with their friends or get better graphics -- or they don't, because they don't care about those things. It's an extremely common and reasonable process. The alternative, releasing both at the same time, would have not that many people buy it for current-gen consoles and just buy it on PC instead, and thus Rockstar loses potentially several million dollars that would've been theirs using the other method. That's why.[/QUOTE] So instead of realizing that the PC version is what they ultimately want, consumers buy the console version first and then the PC version second for a fuller experience. Thereby paying twice as much like a bunch of idiots. [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790627] theyre making us wait because a lot of people are fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] Games with heavy mod potential like the elder scrolls series are still fun, and yet they were released simultaneously on all platforms. It's not like you need to wait to have fun on a mod-heavy game by waiting a year for the mods. Essentially by buying the game late, you allow developers to screw you over since you're paying twice as much, I'm agreeing with you on this. I just don't understand why forums like Face Punch Studios defends this behavior. You're allowing the developer to be "lazy" and charge you more, and I dont see how people dont find this behavior fucking deplorable. Rock Star will keep doing it as long as consumers empty their wallets out because it's a proven formula. The point I made before about hiring more developers was mostly facetious, I understand that throwing more resources at it doesn't make it come out linearly faster. Yet somehow other studios manage to get their games released simultaneously on all platforms, the excuse that they need more time reeks of bullshit, it's just unfortunate that consumers won't remotely stand up for themselves.

Which open world crime games on PC are you referring to?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790654]im not asking them to be nice guys, im trying to understand why anybody would buy a game twice or would be willing to wait half a decade for a port.[/QUOTE] because its not a port and has been in development since at least 2012 the only reason [i]why it's taking so long[/i] is because it's not a port. if it was a port it would be as shit as gta 4. also their motivation isn't JUST to get double dipping customers. they in general do not PC developers at rockstar and focus on consoles first.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790654]im not asking them to be nice guys, im trying to understand why anybody would buy a game twice or would be willing to wait half a decade for a port. [editline]12th May 2014[/editline] what are you even talking about? im asking why consumers have the attention span of a gnat and are willing to part with their money anytime a developer farts.[/QUOTE] I'll rebuy it because I don't want to buy a new xbox 360 to play my old copy of the game now that my 360 is starting to kick the bucket. I'll rebuy it because it was a great game that i've been away from for a long time so the content will feel nostalgic to me in some sense. I'll rebuy it because it was and actually still is, a great game. I may not rebuy it at full price, but I most likely will rebuy old gold if it means I can play a lost game. [editline]12th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44790737]So instead of realizing that the PC version is what they ultimately want, consumers buy the console version first and then the PC version second for a fuller experience. Thereby paying twice as much like a bunch of idiots. Games with heavy mod potential like the elder scrolls series are still fun, and yet they were released simultaneously on all platforms. It's not like you need to wait to have fun on a mod-heavy game by waiting a year for the mods. Essentially by buying the game late, you allow developers to screw you over since you're paying twice as much, I'm agreeing with you on this. I just don't understand why forums like Face Punch Studios defends this behavior. You're allowing the developer to be "lazy" and charge you more, and I dont see how people dont find this behavior fucking deplorable. Rock Star will keep doing it as long as consumers empty their wallets out because it's a proven formula. The point I made before about hiring more developers was mostly facetious, I understand that throwing more resources at it doesn't make it come out linearly faster. Yet somehow other studios manage to get their games released simultaneously on all platforms, the excuse that they need more time reeks of bullshit, it's just unfortunate that consumers won't remotely stand up for themselves.[/QUOTE] If the company isn't going to release it on multiple platforms when it comes out, what are consumers to do? I wasn't even in to PC gaming when it first came out. What exactly should I have done here? Had some precog ability?

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;44790953]Which open world crime games on PC are you referring to?[/QUOTE] Gangs of New York, obviously. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfvSs2Om20[/media]

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;44790953]Which open world crime games on PC are you referring to?[/QUOTE] saint's row 3/4 and sleeping dogs, i'm guessing

Grain of salt? Check $240 in subsavings to buy it for me and my friends so we can all play together guaranteed? Check Angry wife? Check Life?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44790992]I'll rebuy it because I don't want to buy a new xbox 360 to play my old copy of the game now that my 360 is starting to kick the bucket. I'll rebuy it because it was a great game that i've been away from for a long time so the content will feel nostalgic to me in some sense. I'll rebuy it because it was and actually still is, a great game. I may not rebuy it at full price, but I most likely will rebuy old gold if it means I can play a lost game. [/QUOTE] Yeah but we're talking about buying it at full price, if you're going to buy it used then that doesn't really affect them in the same sense. It seems their entire business plan of having staggered release dates is meant to entice people to buy it for nostalgic purposes, not so consumers who switched platforms can repopulate their libraries. [quote] If the company isn't going to release it on multiple platforms when it comes out, what are consumers to do? [/quote] Not buy it? Tell them they want it released on every platform simultaneously? Money talks was my point, I can't fathom how you can't imagine a world where people have enough constraint to vote with their wallets. [QUOTE=endorphinsam;44790985]because its not a port and has been in development since at least 2012 the only reason [I]why it's taking so long[/I] is because it's not a port. if it was a port it would be as shit as gta 4. also their motivation isn't JUST to get double dipping customers. they in general do not PC developers at rockstar and focus on consoles first.[/QUOTE] Yeah but all those things are terrible excuses, once again other developers have it figured out, why not rockstar? Saying "we don't [I]do[/I] PC gaming" makes them sound like a bunch of snoody cunts. I hate "that's just the way it is" as an excuse for things.

no big news centers reponting on this topic, why? please, let it be a "it is still possible" kind of answer

I don't understand how not buying it would convince any developer to do anything other than not release any more games on that platform. If anything, it seems more reasonable to me that a lot of people buying it would send the message of "Maybe we should put more effort into PC instead of thinking of it as an afterthought." But, I'm not going to pretend that I understand the ins and outs of how a business makes its decisions.

HERE WE GO! [video=youtube;B-DpRcxK_N8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DpRcxK_N8&feature=kp[/video]

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44791105]Yeah but we're talking about buying it at full price, if you're going to buy it used then that doesn't really affect them in the same sense. Not buy it? Tell them they want it released on every platform simultaneously? Money talks was my point, I can't fathom how you can't imagine a world where people have enough constraint to vote with their wallets. Yeah but all those things are terrible excuses, once again other developers have it figured out, why not rockstar? Saying "we don't [i]do[/i] PC gaming" makes them sound like a bunch of snoody cunts.[/QUOTE] Well MP3 wasn't tremendously well received on PC. But it was a great game that they poured a shit ton of effort into. It was well optimized and well built. I can see why with all that effort there, and not a lot of support from us, the customers, they would say "well why bother if these snoody cunts won't care when we do get it right" Peoples wallets only go so far as individuals when the masses still oppose those individuals. PC gamers who didn't buy it on consoles didn't have a mark, and I imagine a lot more of them wouldn't have done much else to change that either. Yeah, i'm pretty sure it was well known people wanted a PC version at the time. I get what you mean about voting with your wallet. It's just not always going to work and you could be left in a situation where you miss out on a good experience.