Guise of the Wolf developers, threaten TotalBiscuit over poor review. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=bunguer;43930541]Does this only happen on PC games? Or does it happen in consoles/tv too? How about on mobile games?[/QUOTE] It's usually less of an issue with consoles, since you're much further for the screen. There's less of a tunnel vision effect going on. And mobile games - just consider IOS7 and how it managed to make many people motion sick.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43926579]tbh so much of the youtube community needs to get over itself and get over the fact that there's always going to be a really mental and vocal minority of die-hard crazy fans and people who hate your guts for stupid reasons imagine if people in bands n stuff googled themselves every day and actively tried to personally respond to all of their criticism? they'd never get anything done people with this many fans and followers need to let their content to the talking for them and ignore all the mentalists[/QUOTE] The thing is with today's online connected business of promoting your videos, you have to be online on almost anything to make sure you're feeding your following with content. And generally you start out doing it all yourself so you get really connected to it and love it and then slowely whe you get larger you can't handle the increase in negativity. We, by nature, put more weight on something negative than positive. Which is why it's typical for creators to feel bummed out when their video has 5% dislikes.... but 95% Likes. It's just more important. I know it seems like a simple fix, just to not let it bother you, but it's hard to explain. You can't easily filter it out because when you do, it just makes you more aware of what you're reading. It's like shutting a door on a room with people talking only makes you more tuned to what people are saying. Like I said, I'm not nearly in the position but I've experience complete emotional failure due to stress from even my small channel. It doesn't even have to be a troll, just a constant feed of negativity that you can't always just turn off in your mind. You churn through it constantly. the only thing that works is to literally block it out. Never read emails, Never read tweets, never read comments. He tried doing this. He turned off YT comments to move to reddit and thought the moderators would help filter out some of the content and the hardcore community would help to downvote everyone just being a fucking idiot. It didn't work well enough which is why he constantly has these cyclical deletion of accounts and coming back. He hits a point where he can't handle it, deletes the account to free his mind and then when he's ready he comes back. I know he has a dedicated PR guy who handles all email communication, but I think TB runs his own twitter feed which is perhaps a bit more personal than it should be for him. I think he should have someone feed him all feedback in filtered form and not the raw stuff. [editline]16th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=carcarcargo;43928741]Well yeah but that's pretty much work costs, he has to buy those games to do his job. He also needs lawyers to protect him from nutters like these, so after all the expenses I doubt he has much left.[/QUOTE] TB rarely ever has to buy his own games. He said he gets dozens of offers for free games each day. And I recently signed up for some developer mailing lists and I get maybe 4-5 game offers per day both in email and my twitter to review. [editline]16th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Binladen34;43929368]I just hate when he bitches about games not being able to push past 30FPS, or that he says 30FPS is unplayable. The best I can get out of games is 30FPS, and I've played fucking slide shows before.[/QUOTE] You misunderstand his position. He's not really a review. He does impressions of games, AND he does this to warn people about bad games. Him being mad about FOV or FPS locks are important for people who THINK they are important. If it were a review, he likely wouldn't stress that as much since it's about covering a game well. He dwells on those subjects since those could be deciding factors for someone purchasing the game. That's a major reason he does these new games which look interesting but might be shit, because he knows loads of people will be thinking the same thing and both wants to make sure he gets content out for it to get the hits for a controversial game, but also to save people from spending the money on something that was thrown together. [QUOTE=Ganerumo;43929447]No one deserves to be put through a shitty fanbase and such, but TB has had the really shitty reflex of acknowledging the shittiest elements of his viewer base and totally fucking respond to them thus giving them more importance than they would ever deserve, plus the fact a lot of his fans act as copy-cats and try to be cool and hip by being arrogant, condescending drones and douchebags that will try to act as angry and douchebaggy as their messiah is and end up causing massive, hilarious drama like that one time he got a bunch of Nvidia cards for a giveaway and ended up cancelling the whole thing because people complained about all the details of the giveaway just like he does. Every youtuber will tell you the same thing : people watch you because they like the personality you're showing and they will assume you are like that in real life, and more than often they will be inspired by you and try to pull off the same kind of attitude : everyone wants to be the friend of that guy you're pretending to be on video to make money - this is the exact reason why Pewdiepie got so popular, he's literally a surrogate whacky friend for people who don't have a whacky friend in real life. So no shit people are going to fucking act like a condescending douchebag to look more like this condescending douchebag they are watching.[/QUOTE] People automatically listen to what is important, and like I said earlier. We natively put more importance on negativity than positive. He doesn't intend to make trolls and angry people louder, it's his the mind of someone. When you go and look at comments on a random video and just scroll, which ones do you stick around and read? The good ones, or the negative ones? That's not something you can really just not do. It's in our nature. [QUOTE=bunguer;43929641]It's not just about being difficult or lazyness, it's about allocating resources. The view models are not poorly done if they look good with the FOV they want you to see, they don't have time to make everything perfect. Adding a feature like that could break the game in certain situations, and it's not always easy to predict where it happens or how or even if. You can't assume changing something like the FOV won't have secondary effects, and you need to do a lot of testing and possible refinement. All of this takes precious time and money that could be used to fix bugs or add features, which is arguably more important than that FOV setting that only a minority of players care about.[/QUOTE] You should make that option part of the design from day one. Develop your assets and view models with changable FOV in mind. This is almost like games maybe no having customizable controls for left handed users. "Only a small part of the player base" or "They'd have to allocate resources to that." Obviously. Eveything requires resources to be allocated. But the comfort of the player should be towards the top.

Man, can you imagine the second email actually being a fake? I'm not saying that it is, because I know TB is better than that, but can you imagine a little shit that's just as famous posting that? Like, how fucked could you possibly be?

[IMG]http://cl.jroo.me/z3/B/J/t/d/a.aaa-No-fun-allowed..jpg[/IMG] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("image macro" - Orkel))[/highlight]

Honestly, field-of-view usually isn't too bad for me when it comes to modern games unless it's Call of Duty or Crysis. For some reason Crysis 2 and 3, and the Infinity Ward CoD games, just seem to induce a nauseating tunnel vision that doesn't feel natural whatsoever. I can see why it can be a bother for some, but TotalBiscuit himself seems to vary from shooter to shooter depending on how well their FoV is implemented. I like his WTFs but he can be quite stingy or overreactive sometimes. And there's points where he may go into a rant on something but not fully understand what he's ranting about, which bugs me if it's on a game I already know about. But when it comes down to it, I'd much rather see certain other Youtubers get taken down rather than TB, and this whole situation stinks of utter recklessness and stupidity from FUN.

[QUOTE=bunguer;43929530]I don't really like TB, especially when he critics really minor stuff like it was the worst thing in the world (no FOV options = insta crap) even when there are a lot of good qualities. (also, how many worst games ever has he said by now?) I also don't like how he sometimes critics some indie games as if they were multi-million budget games. With that said, this "company" is acting like a bunch of assholes and even though they are a bunch of students (presumably), they could have handled this better.[/QUOTE] If you're selling a game for a standard price, maybe over 15 bucks, you're saying your product is worth that much. I don't see a problem treating the product the same regardless if it's from a big studio or not. Like mentioned it's for the consumer. The person buying the game might be paying the same price for X indie title than Y AAA title, but what if they get a much worse experience from X than Y, surely that should be made aware and not just thrown out the window because they are a lowly indie dev.

[QUOTE=Binladen34;43929233]I seriously dislike Total Biscuit because he's a total twat. He gets overly butthurt at literally the smallest fucking things, and he's a prick to pretty much everyone who isn't his Yes Men. But this is hilarious, and his reviews for games are usually pretty funny.[/QUOTE] Every now and then someone comes along and says they dislike TB but can't ever give a valid reason. All you've said is he's a twat, butthurt and a prick to everyone, like really is that the best you could come up with? He plays video games and gives his opinion on them, why would you hate someone over that, I don't get it.

[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1y0yto/hey_guys_remember_that_guy_who_urged_fun_creators/[/url] [url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/259640/discussions/2/558747922518555670/#c558747922515362944[/url] So many little clues going around. Random guy posts on forum about how the devs could file a takedown to shut TB up and threaten his channel to quiet him down. Later he posts about ways to buy the game on the humble store, then later posts talking about potential customers and damage control... on the side of the customer. And ways to file away complaints into some sort of trash can. Wants 24/7 censorship to shut up people who aren't happy. People thinking he's like half an employee, or he's a troll who is trying to make FUN look bad by being overly strong about it. I think this whole thing is some sort of art experiment.

[QUOTE=layla;43931370]Every now and then someone comes along and says they dislike TB but can't ever give a valid reason. All you've said is he's a twat, butthurt and a prick to everyone, like really is that the best you could come up with? He plays video games and gives his opinion on them, why would you hate someone over that, I don't get it.[/QUOTE] people mostly hate him because he comes across as really angry in his tweets/reddit posts. negative comments seriously stress him out, though, and he finds it difficult to resist reading comments /interracting with his fanbase. the thing that pisses me off the most is when people say stuff like "stop whining they're just youtube comments/random people on the internet." it's really not that simple. having an emotional reaction to certain things isn't something that you ever CHOOSE to do, he can't just "stop whining", the issue is far more complex than people think, and people telling him he's not allowed to feel a certain way just makes it worse.

I'd probably be an asshole too if I had to deal with half the stuff TB deals with.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/H7PqnS2.png[/img] hahahah

I like TB, his getting worked up over other people getting worked up on Twitter/YouTube/Reddit doesn't generally translate in to his daily content - when it does, it's because of crap like this. Obviously everyone is going to be on different levels when it comes to watching due to the personality and that's fine. But following on from that reddit post, no, I can't I can't imagine having thousands of people criticize my work and livelihood on a daily basis for a number of years. When you work on the Internet - there's surely only wo much you can block out and only so much of a thick skin you can develop.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;43931585][img]http://i.imgur.com/H7PqnS2.png[/img] hahahah[/QUOTE] If they have to work on it, they are doing too much. You don't even need Photoshop(or any image editing for that matter) to make a fake email.

These fucking idiots are just digging their own grave.

Trying to censor TB after giving a game crap reviews? Oh man....I see a shitstorm brewing.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;43931788]Trying to censor TB after giving a game crap reviews? Oh man....I see a shitstorm [i][b]brewing.[/b][/i][/QUOTE] That would imply it hasn't already started.

i would be so tempted to reply 'bring it bitch' if i were in TB's shoes after seeing that poor attempt to scare him by threatening to sue

Thing is Polaris is the one who is getting the legitimate problems. TB just simply loses revenue. He's managed so the strike is on Polaris. But we haven't heard much from them.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;43931585][img]http://i.imgur.com/H7PqnS2.png[/img] hahahah[/QUOTE] If they are genuinely serious, this is a 10-year-old behavior. And is ridiculous.

:D

Helps to have a map.

Man, total biscuit is like the santa claus of internet drama :v:

Helps to have a map: [url]http://steamcharts.com/app/259640#All[/url]

[quote]"We are bigger than your little youtube channel."[/quote] Maybe, most likely not though. Sure as fuck aren't bigger than Maker Studios though.

-snip- whoops late

Just a question, but has FUN explicitly stated that TB is a liar, in addition to their threats? If so, hello clearcut libel suit for character defamation!

[QUOTE=bunguer;43929716] With that said, FOV controls may be one of those things we will start seeing more and more, I just can't agree when he puts so much value into it when only a minority of players care about it.[/QUOTE] Yes, fuck people that [B]GET PHYSICALLY ILL[/B] from low FOV, let's remove elipsy warnings too while making flashing colours everywhere, you'd be fine with that right? It's just a minority.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;43932180]Maybe, most likely not though. Sure as fuck aren't bigger than Maker Studios though.[/QUOTE] They also don't seem to realise that TB's parent network is Polaris, which kinda has quite a lot of the most popular Youtubers under them, AngryJoe, TB, YogsCast, Dodger, PewDiePie, Markiplier, amongst several others. So they're really poking a sleeping tiger right there.

[QUOTE=Brt5470;43925841]Also worth pointing out that TB recently had one of his worst mental/stress breakdowns recently and opened up on how he's been doing. He hides a lot of his private life except for some stuff through Genna. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrb2d/why_did_tb_deleted_his_reddit_account_again/cfe40zd[/url] Worth reading to get an idea of what goes through the mind of someone in his position. I know the thoughts, but not the intensity. I only have 7500 subscribers and only a few cunts who piss me off. He has tens of thousands. Nerd^3 also did a post recently saying how he gets deaththreats from people when he doesn't like a popular game and such. And while it might seem a joke from the viewers point of view you can only ignore it for so much. This is one reason TB hasn't been tweeting much unless it's needed to keep his feed informed.[/QUOTE] This is sad in the same way a homeless man acknowledges his own uselessness, I dont think being a middle-aged video game journalist with a volatile fanbase is really the epitome of stress-related working environments. It is simply a matter of growing thicker skin no matter how much he tries to downplay the importance of that by saying it can only get you so far, because if other people are better at it as he rightfully claims, he has no reason not to be better at it as well. Maybe instead of letting all the constant criticism and the "death threats" get to him he can take a step back and reevaluate what it is he's actually doing, and realize that it's probably among the safest and most comfortable ways of getting money in modern days. All he has to do is sit at his computer, play games, and give his opinion on them. It's merely a matter of perspective which he seems to lack. He claims it's "constant noise of people" but it's the fucking internet, he has to learn to simply put up his videos, and walk away until the next one is made. If he's so bothered by the fact that in 10 positive comments 1 will be something along the lines of "shit video kill urself cunt" then I'm sorry but he has other, underlying personality-related issues that are entirely unrelated to video game journalism or the stress of being famous and he needs to seek professional help instead of blaming it all on a bunch of people he has never met or seen leaving some mean comments behind. He's a grown man for Christ sake.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;43932486]They also don't seem to realise that TB's parent network is Polaris, which kinda has quite a lot of the most popular Youtubers under them, AngryJoe, TB, YogsCast, Dodger, PewDiePie, Markiplier, amongst several others. So they're really poking a sleeping tiger right there.[/QUOTE] That's my point, Maker Studios owns Polaris. [QUOTE=Melnek;43932526]If he's so bothered by the fact that in 10 positive comments 1 will be something along the lines of "shit video kill urself cunt" then I'm sorry but he has other, underlying personality-related issues that are entirely unrelated to video game journalism or the stress of being famous and he needs to seek professional help instead of blaming it all on a bunch of people he has never met or seen leaving some mean comments behind. He's a grown man for Christ sake.[/QUOTE] He's admitted this numerous times and has been getting professional help for a while now. He's said his doctor keeps telling him to stop reading the comments but he has trouble doing that because he needs those positive comments to keep himself doing what he does.