Israelis in Tel Aviv chanting, “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza! Oleh!” - Polidicks

This is fucking disgusting. For all their guilt-tripping about the holocaust they seem to have forgotten the core problem of it very easily. How can they so quickly call for the genocide of another people after it happened to their own kind?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;45539283][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/H0NSLBk.jpg[/IMG] Gaza today. [URL="http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2c2fdm/new_photo_from_gaza_today_looks_like_actual_hell/"](Source)[/URL][/QUOTE] smoke looks like a giant mouth about to swallow gaza or something :v:

[QUOTE=Telepethi;45541010]This is fucking disgusting. For all their guilt-tripping about the holocaust they seem to have forgotten the core problem of it very easily. How can they so quickly call for the genocide of another people after it happened to their own kind?[/QUOTE] It's a group of people. Is it easier to generalize for you? Holocaust? I haven't heard one, one Jewish person, even mention the holocaust. This is some sort of propaganda made up by foreigners that Israel somehow uses the holocaust as an excuse to everything. No. Israel is protecting itself. If you want to see genocide, then maybe you should start looking at Hamas' actions not Israel's.

[QUOTE=-Sleepy-*;45538740]So because it's a smaller number it's okay? Beautiful logic Scum.[/QUOTE] Aarrgh. Look, reading really isn't that difficult. Take an online course or something. Seriously. This is what Sgt-NiallR said: [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;45534295]Well, the US isn't currently committing all but genocide.[/QUOTE] And this is what I replied: [QUOTE]Once again, because you people obviously can't count: Maybe half a million dead people in Iraq alone. Over 10,000 of them after Obama got elected. About 20,000 in Afghanistan. As much as 50,000 in Pakistan. So far about 1100 Palestinians killed in this conflict, and about 20,000 Israelis and Palestinians killed in the conflict since it started in 1948.[/QUOTE] Now, work with me here. Sgt-NiallR made a point. What was his point? Let me break it down for you. AMERICA ISNT MAKE GENOCIDE (ISRAEL IS) And what was my counterpoint, kids? Here we go. AMERICA IS MAKING MORE KILL THAN ISRAEL Did I say killing people is okay? Did I say America killing more people than us making us killing people ok? Again, in case you get confused: NO NONONONO No. Okay?

[QUOTE=Seith;45541531] No. Israel is protecting itself. If you want to see genocide, then maybe you should start looking at Hamas' actions not Israel's.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ScumBunny;45541578]Now, work with me here. Sgt-NiallR made a point. What was his point? Let me break it down for you. AMERICA ISNT MAKE GENOCIDE (ISRAEL IS) And what was my counterpoint, kids? Here we go. AMERICA IS MAKING MORE KILL THAN ISRAEL Did I say killing people is okay? Did I say America killing more people than us making us killing people ok? Again, in case you get confused: NO NONONONO No. Okay?[/QUOTE] Do you guys even speak English because you obviously don't even know what the words you're using mean... What is it about Israel that compels you to make posts on a video-game forum in broken English? Don't you think that's just a little bit creepy and weird?

Am I in kindergarten? Pathetic.

[QUOTE=Seith;45541625]Am I in kindergarten? Pathetic.[/QUOTE] You display an obvious lack of understanding on what the word genocide means. Genocide is the systematic erasure of an ethnicity or religious group via a couple of measures including violence and disposal. Israel's displacement of around 500,000 Palestinians in the 90's can be considered an attempt in genocide but since the displacement did not completely eliminate Palestinians in the region it's not genocide, just forced migration which is considered a human rights abuse.

[QUOTE=Seith;45541625]Am I in kindergarten? Pathetic.[/QUOTE] Hey at least we aren't the ones claiming Hamas is committing genocide when nothing even indicates anything close to that. [QUOTE=Seith;45541531] If you want to see genocide, then maybe you should start looking at Hamas' actions not Israel's.[/QUOTE] Oh I forgot each Israeli is worth many more Palestinians to you.

What a bunch of savages. There is no "good side" of this conflict.

Israel's goal is to cease the attacks on their country in whatever way possible. This is not attempted genocide. Hamas's goal is to destroy Israel and the Israeli people in whatever way possible. This is actual attempted genocide. Neither have committed genocide.

[QUOTE=deadoon;45541654]Hey at least we aren't the ones claiming Hamas is committing genocide when nothing even indicates anything close to that.[/QUOTE] Hamas' stated goal is the elimination of the Jewish people in their entirety and to this end they've launched multiple missile attacks on civilians. How does that not "even indicate anything close to genocide"?

[QUOTE=Monkah;45541713]Israel's goal is to cease the attacks on their country in whatever way possible. This is not attempted genocide. Hamas's goal is to destroy Israel and the Israeli people in whatever way possible. This is actual attempted genocide.[/QUOTE] Okay let me go through this again before I just stop because obviously if you think this forum is some front for Israel you're a little unbalanced: Israel displaced 500,000 Palestinians in the 90's, this is considered a human rights abuse and the first step to genocide but it wasn't technically genocide. Hamas' cannot commit genocide because it has no ability to, nor has it been able to displace Israeli people in anyway so no attempt at genocide occurred against Israeli's by Hamas. Maybe they want to commit genocide, but that's irrelevant to what actually happened. Cool gamer tip: devaluing the word genocide so you can win a false equivalency argument on the internet is hilarious and gross. [editline]30th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=asteroidrules;45541727]Hamas' stated goal is the elimination of the Jewish people in their entirety and to this end they've launched multiple missile attacks on civilians. How does that not "even indicate anything close to genocide"?[/QUOTE] That's not even Hamas' goal if you go by their charter, not that it matters at all.

Aaaaaand here we go again. Look, guys, do we really need to go over the whole "definition of massacre"/"which side is more evil"/"who started it" thing again? The OP was about a group of extremely vile Israelis. I think we can at least all agree they suck. As an Israeli I also think people in this thread shouldn't overlook the fact these assholes were protesting a much larger anti-war demonstration. If you take anything from this thread is that there are a lot of voices and opinions in Israel. The ones in the video are loud and obnoxious, but they are not all of us. Is that something you could possibly accept? I didn't even say holocaust. [editline]30th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541736] Israel displaced 500,000 Palestinians in the 90's, this is considered a human rights abuse and the first step to genocide but it wasn't technically genocide.[/QUOTE] Is it possible you mean 1948? Or the 1967 war?

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45541754]Aaaaaand here we go again. Look, guys, do we really need to go over the whole "definition of massacre"/"which side is more evil"/"who started it" thing again? The OP was about a group of extremely vile Israelis. I think we can at least all agree they suck. As an Israeli I also think people in this thread shouldn't overlook the fact these assholes were protesting a much larger anti-war demonstration. If you take anything from this thread is that there are a lot of voices and opinions in Israel. The ones in the video are loud and obnoxious, but they are not all of us. Is that something you could possibly accept? I didn't even say holocaust.[/QUOTE] Massacre and genocide aren't synonyms. What you're doing in this thread is stupid and racist; you're creating equivalencies to defend people's deaths on a video-game forum while inciting national fervor in people from the US. You suck dude, sorry. Feel free to go on if doing this helps you reconcile what must be a horrible situation in your home-country but it just looks awful. [QUOTE=ScumBunny;45541754] Is it possible you mean 1948? Or the 1967 war?[/QUOTE] Please stop doing this until you can read other people's posts.

Okay, help me out here. I'm obviously a little slow and English isn't my first language. 1) Where in this entire thread have I defended people's death. Please provide an actual quote. 2) When in the 90's did Israel displace half a million Palestinians. Please provide a valid link. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541591]Do you guys even speak English because you obviously don't even know what the words you're using mean... What is it about Israel that compels you to make posts on a video-game forum in broken English? Don't you think that's just a little bit creepy and weird?[/QUOTE] With your most recent post in this thread, isn't such a claim a little ironic?

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45541793]Okay, help me out here. I'm obviously a little slow and English isn't my first language. 1) Where in this entire thread have I defended people's death. Please provide an actual quote. 2) When in the 90's did Israel displace half a million Palestinians. Please provide a valid link. Thank you.[/QUOTE] There's absolutely nothing you can say that'll redeem you and I hope no-one else makes the mistake of engaging you on this subject. I'm sure you're pleasant otherwise. [editline]30th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=DogGunn;45541795]With your most recent post in this thread, isn't such a claim a little ironic?[/QUOTE] I think you mean hypocritical, not ironic, and be specific.

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541800]I think you mean hypocritical, not ironic, and be specific.[/QUOTE] What hypothetical? And ironic, yes, very much so. Especially when you have a go at someone for defending Israel, but at the same time defend something as indefensible (if it be indirectly) as Hamas.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45534247]Right. So on a scale of zero to Nazi Germany, how malevolent a country would you say we are, with our chanting asshole demonstrations, compared to yours with your KKK, neo Nazis, teabaggers and Fox News?[/QUOTE] About Nazi Germany. [editline]30th July 2014[/editline] I'm impressed you needed to ask.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;45541820]What hypothetical? And ironic, yes, very much so. Especially when you have a go at someone for defending Israel, but at the same time defend something as indefensible (if it be indirectly) as Hamas.[/QUOTE] Okay, please, someone else who is reading this thread: Note how this person didn't take the time to even read the words "hypocritical", there's zero care for reading my post and making sure to address what I'm saying. We can infer from this that engaging this person and expecting to be understood is already a very strong impossibility. Now the second thing: [QUOTE=DogGunn;45541820]the same time defend something as indefensible (if it be indirectly) as Hamas.[/QUOTE] Now, what are my claims about Hamas? "That's not even Hamas' goal if you go by their charter, not that it matters at all." I admitted this was irrelevant but still lets address by saying that yes, Hamas officially does not endorse genocide and that's a fact even if it's not really meaningful because people can officially support anything and do the opposite. I also qualified this by saying: "Maybe they want to commit genocide, but that's irrelevant to what actually happened." So the idea that I defended Hamas does not hold up to water, nor does it adhere to my views because I find Hamas to be horrible and indefensible. Even if we make a stretch: "Hamas' cannot commit genocide because it has no ability to, nor has it been able to displace Israeli people in anyway so no attempt at genocide occurred against Israeli's by Hamas. Maybe they want to commit genocide, but that's irrelevant to what actually happened." This is a fact. Hamas has no large force which can displace a population, it can only engage in terrorist activity which is, yes, also a human rights violation. However it is irrelevant when discussing genocide. Why did I engage this poster? I have an essay to do on Palestine and this is a great way to figure out how I should not approach my thesis; in a way this has been helpful for me, ne?

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541839]Okay, please, someone else who is reading this thread: Note how this person didn't take the time to even read the words "hypocritical", there's zero care for reading my post and making sure to address what I'm saying. We can infer from this that engaging this person and expecting to be understood is already a very strong impossibility.[/quote] Wow, I made a mistake. Woopdifuckingdo. You make yourself sound like a huge wanker when you write in such a style. Instead of pointing out the mistake that I made, allowing me to correct it in a civilised manner, you have to approach the situation as if everyone is beneath you. Considering you were before having a cry over people posting on a "video-game forum in broken English", I really think you should bring yourself back down to a normal level, where you belong. [QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541839]Why did I engage this poster? I have an essay to do on Palestine and this is a great way to figure out how I should not approach my thesis; in a way this has been helpful for me, ne? [img]http://www.absoluteanime.com/azumanga_daioh/tomo[2].jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Considering the manner in which you post, why should anyone engage you? And by the way, it's clearly evident that you've made up your mind on the situation - something that should not be done before writing an essay in such an area.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;45541871]Wow, I made a mistake. Woopdifuckingdo. You make yourself sound like a huge wanker when you write in such a style. Instead of pointing out the mistake that I made, allowing me to correct it in a civilised manner, you have to approach the situation as if everyone is beneath you. Considering you were before having a cry over people posting on a "video-game forum in broken English", I really think you should bring yourself back down to a normal level, where you belong. Considering the manner in which you post, why should anyone engage you? And by the way, it's clearly evident that you've made up your mind on the situation - something that should not be done before writing an essay in such an area.[/QUOTE] [img]http://33.media.tumblr.com/a5ec332bde90a31cf1b43e9bf8cd7c16/tumblr_merbtut1el1qgbabgo1_500.gif[/img] You should be so lucky as to learn from me. I'll accept this attempt to insult me (and to do so when I was charitable enough to address your claims! Pah!) as a retraction of your statement that I was being "ironic". Sailor Mars has the beauty and the smarts; remember this next time. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Reaction image / Reaction post? Wtf" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541882][img]http://33.media.tumblr.com/a5ec332bde90a31cf1b43e9bf8cd7c16/tumblr_merbtut1el1qgbabgo1_500.gif[/img] You should be so lucky as to learn from me. I'll accept this attempt to insult me (and to do so when I was charitable enough to address your claims! Pah!) as a retraction of your statement that I was being "ironic". Sailor Mars has the beauty and the smarts; remember this next time.[/QUOTE] Not sure if trolling, or actual fucktard who is confused with thinking he is mature then posting shit like this. Pick one and stick to it, however these threads are already firestorms enough so fuck off. You posted earlier that Israel displaced 500,000 Palestinians in the 1990's. I can't find any source confirming that. Please, please send me a source.

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;45541909]Not sure if trolling, or actual fucktard who is confused with thinking he is mature then posting shit like this. Pick one and stick to it, however these threads are already firestorms enough so fuck off. You posted earlier that Israel displaced 500,000 Palestinians in the 1990's. I can't find any source confirming that. Please, please send me a source.[/QUOTE] Did Hamas shoot a rocket into your sense of humor? Jeez, I should be the one calling troll here. Displacement is an on-going process and you'll find most sources including Wikipedia place averages by the 90's to be around 500,000. There were several events including the Gulf War (which further displaced the Palestinians displaced by early wars) which was specifically in the 90's, displacing Palestinians even further. Wikipedia states that the current displacement number is 5,248,185 which is a big step-up from the 500,000 Israel claims. Now none of this excuses Hamas of course, but Israel's displacement of Palestinians cannot be ignored because that's a sucky thing to do. The point of this is not so I can argue Israel vs. Palestine the point is that you should stop being so gross and problematic because all it does is make this conflict worse and creep me out, but I also feel like I'm unfairly picking on Israeli supporters so someone who supports Hamas should post so I can call them gross and problematic. Fair and balanced.

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541933]Did Hamas shoot a rocket into your sense of humor? Jeez, I should be the one calling troll here. Displacement is an on-going process and you'll find most sources including Wikipedia place averages by the 90's to be around 500,000. There were several events including the Gulf War (which further displaced the Palestinians displaced by early wars) which was specifically in the 90's, displacing Palestinians even further. Wikipedia states that the current displacement number is 5,248,185 which is a big step-up from the 500,000 Israel claims. Now none of this excuses Hamas of course, but Israel's displacement of Palestinians cannot be ignored because that's a sucky thing to do. The point of this is not so I can argue Israel vs. Palestine the point is that you should stop being so gross and problematic because all it does is make this conflict worse and creep me out, but I also feel like I'm unfairly picking on Israeli supporters so someone who supports Hamas should post so I can call them gross and problematic. Fair and balanced.[/QUOTE] If we're looking at the same [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Refugee_statistics"]wikipedia article[/URL], the 5,248,185 number refers to the total number of Palestinian refugees. The table you're looking at tells you each refugee group's district, which is where their villages originally were (Beersheba, Haifa etc.), their numbers at the time they left those villages in 1948, and their number in 2000. Now, keep in mind that unlike regular refugees, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#UNRWA"]UNRWA has a special definition for Palestinian refugees[/URL] that includes not only the displaced persons themselves, but also, and I quote: [QUOTE]The patrilineal descendants of the original Palestine refugees "are also eligible for registration."[/QUOTE] That means that most of the growth you're seeing in the table you quoted between the time of the actual displacement and now[B] is primarily population growth[/B]. Anyone born to a Palestinian, even if his family has been living in Jourdan or Lebanon for 3 generations, still counts as a refugee because otherwise these countries will be expected to actually grant them citizenship, which they don't. There have been only three major event where Palestinians have been displaced, those being [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Palestinian_refugees_from_the_1948_Palestine_War"]around 1948[/URL] when the state of Israel was founded,[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Palestinian_refugees_from_Six-Day_War"] the Six-Day war[/URL] in 1967 when Israel occupied additional territory and finally [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Palestinian_exodus_from_Kuwait_.28Gulf_War.29"]the Gulf War[/URL] in 1991 when Palestinians fled Kuwait after supporting Sadam. So, no mass displacement from Israel in the 90's. Hope that helps with your thesis.

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541800]There's absolutely nothing you can say that'll redeem you and I hope no-one else makes the mistake of engaging you on this subject. I'm sure you're pleasant otherwise. [editline]30th July 2014[/editline] I think you mean hypocritical, not ironic, and be specific.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you even going on about this is not debating

[QUOTE=Sailor Mars;45541882] You should be so lucky as to learn from me. I'll accept this attempt to insult me (and to do so when I was charitable enough to address your claims! Pah!) as a retraction of your statement that I was being "ironic". Sailor Mars has the beauty and the smarts; remember this next time.[/QUOTE] Also, did you have to be so cringeworthy to post a gif of your favourite anime?

Somebody please send them ebola so they can suffer the diesease. These assholes deserves the ebola virus more than that poor research scientist who died from it. How could these people endorse murder and genocide. Why do these people exists?

[QUOTE=BCell;45543381]Somebody please send them ebola so they can suffer the diesease. These assholes deserves the ebola virus more than that poor research scientist who died from it. How could these people endorse murder and genocide. Why do these people exists?[/QUOTE] Only one problem; they'll infect any other innocent people who are also around. I wouldn't do this even to the worst criminal on this planet.

[QUOTE=BCell;45543381]Somebody please send them ebola?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BCell;45543381]How could these people endorse murder and genocide. Why do these people exists?[/QUOTE] Irony.