Transgender Teen Named Homecoming Queen in Huntington Beach
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[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42268310]
what the heck is sexual anarchy lol[/QUOTE]
buzzwords to scare people when you don't have an actual point to be made
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
gender roles are subjective and change with society and the varied cultures
gender roles are not the same between the U.S. and ethiopia, and they are not the same between the 1940s and 2010s
sexual anarchy wtf are you talking about
its like slippery slope but there is no real threat at the end
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;42268325]I'm gonna assume you're a man for this.
Let's say you woke up one day and suddenly you had a female body, complete with reproductive organs, hormones, etc.
You go to the doctor and he gives you two options. You can get a sex change and have the body of a male to the best that medical science can offer, or you can be sent to an institution to be conditioned into identifying yourself as a woman.
Which would you choose?[/QUOTE]
make sure he knows that regardless of which option he picks, society will label him a freak, he will have a difficult time being accepted, and will end up being emotionally and socially repressed if he is unable to cope with the constant threats and hatred purported by bigots
[QUOTE=katbug;42268267]I know.
But he said that I had my view backwards of what the study was proving, and I was saying it wasn't.[/QUOTE]I had quoted just Flubber Nugget originally, who was understanding it wrong. Then I remembered that you had wanted the link as well and so I editted your post in as well.
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
cool bring in the sexual anarchy i wanna have sex with a chick in a dolphin costume and a pharaoh
[QUOTE=Loriborn;42268339]make sure he knows that regardless of which option he picks, society will label him a freak, he will have a difficult time being accepted, and will end up being emotionally and socially repressed if he is unable to cope with the constant threats and hatred purported by bigots[/QUOTE]And that the option to be conditioned in to identifying with his new body is laughably ineffectual and is closer to torture than treatment in most cases.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42268357]don't most schools vote from the student body[/QUOTE]
yes
and most often times its a popularity contest
which is still good, because it means to student body not only accepts her, but respects and cares about her enough to vote for her, even if it is solely because she overcame adversity and because she is a good person
that in and of itself deserves merit
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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42268363]And that the option to be conditioned in to identifying with his new body is laughably ineffectual and is closer to torture than treatment in most cases.[/QUOTE]
gotta love those "pray (beat) the gay away" camps
[QUOTE=Lemonator;42268215]that's the other fault with allowing hormone replacement therapy, brb trannys get all the estrogen they want but steroids are still illegal
strong double standards in society[/QUOTE]
Steroids are legal you just have to get them prescribed... Same way you're prescribed estrogen.
I see no double standard.
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[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
Tell me, what actual significance do gender roles have?
Do they do anything other than tell people how they can and can't act?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42268297]rape is sex without consent. how would that be rape? not that i really agree with trans* trying to pick up people that might not be comfortable with it (in a perfect world people wouldn't care but until then i think it'd be better to make sure they're comfortable with the person they're doing it with) but it's not rape[/QUOTE]
Sadly, a lot of people use "I had sex with someone and regretted it after" as a reason to call rape.
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42268418]Steroids are legal you just have to get them prescribed... Same way you're prescribed estrogen.
I see no double standard.[/QUOTE]
its a helluva lot easier to get prescribed the major male steroids (testosterone, anabolic steroids like 1-testosterone) than it is to get cleared for hormone therapy
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
Oh no not freedom, anything but that!!
Seriously though, who cares what's 'natural' anyway? Nature sucks and it kept trying to kill us.
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? [B]Sexual anarchy[/B].[/QUOTE]
This sounds like the name of some obscure, South American or Ukrainian black metal band.
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305] Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
That's going in my teamspeak leave message and my phrases to remember right next to teledildonics.
It's always the same people getting banned for the same shit in these type of threads. Come on, where's the unpredictability?
Bigots are too predictable.
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
Sexual anarchy sounds awesome let's do it
[QUOTE=pai_mei;42268305]How far are we willing to go from nature? Genders roles are huge, what happens when the line between the two disappears? Sexual anarchy.[/QUOTE]
Fuck I got spit all over my keyboard.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42269552]Fuck I got spit all over my keyboard.[/QUOTE]
I know, right? It's just that mind-blowing. I can forsee the sexual apocalypse... big, veiny, covered in lube and spraying fluids everywhere.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;42268454]Sadly, a lot of people use "I had sex with someone and regretted it after" as a reason to call rape.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure why this weird-ass myth continues to charge into the future but this is literally irrelevant in every developed nation's rape and sexual assault statutes. If you didn't rape somebody, them suddenly saying it was rape doesn't provide anything towards the standard of proof for the crime and you can't be charged. If they do find evidence then, well, shit, why are you behaving like a rapist?
This is like being paranoid about people trying to use regret to get out of binding contracts- that generally never works and when it does it's because it was a legit grievance, so you're just getting mad at nothing.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;42269971]I know, right? It's just that mind-blowing. I can forsee the sexual apocalypse... big, veiny, covered in lube and spraying fluids everywhere.
I am not sure why this weird-ass myth continues to charge into the future but this is literally irrelevant in every developed nation's rape and sexual assault statutes. If you didn't rape somebody, them suddenly saying it was rape doesn't provide anything towards the standard of proof for the crime and you can't be charged. If they do find evidence then, well, shit, why are you behaving like a rapist?
This is like being paranoid about people trying to use regret to get out of binding contracts- that generally never works and when it does it's because it was a legit grievance, so you're just getting mad at nothing.[/QUOTE]
Technically there is a rule about it, but it is odd to actually utilize.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception[/url]
haha wow these threads are the perfect idiot culls, anyway good on her im glad there are enough people out there who actually understand this trans gender stuff and how it works to make shit like this happen
Sorry if I'm wrong (and correct me if I am):
You can be biologically a male or female, you can have the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity"]gender identity[/URL] of a male or female. If your gender identity doesn't match your biological body, then you are a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender"]transgender[/URL] individual.
So, for instance, if you are biologically male (you have a dick) but have the gender identity of a female then you have a condition that, much like depression or schizophrenia or any other sort of mental condition, needs to be treated. That treatment involves diminishing the disparity between your gender identity and your actual body, which means that you can go through a physical transition that ultimately alleviates the feeling of "wrongness", I guess. This is a feeling that most people will never experience since their gender identity matches their body.
And then there's also sexual orientation, which is completely separated from both gender identity and your biological sex...
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42267940]And this would be a problem how? If you can't tell the difference, then what is the problem?[/QUOTE]
That's like fraud. Like selling adulterated counterfeit products because consumers might not be able to tell the difference.
...What does the * in trans* mean?
[QUOTE=Alice3173;42262235]Of course it is, it shows that transgender people are getting more fairly treated like they deserve. She's the first transgirl in the US to be crowned homecoming queen. It's less that she got homecoming queen per se and more the fact that a transgirl in high school is the person who won and for the first time in US history.[/QUOTE]
that or she got it because she was trans, rather that she got it in spite of being trans
thank u based megafan
Also this is really great. I'm happy for her.
[QUOTE=Luafox;42270945]genderfuck[/QUOTE]
[I]what[/I]
All the other ones in your list sound alright, but what is this
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;42271085][I]what[/I]
All the other ones in your list sound alright, but what is this[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]A genderfuck, or gender fuck or gender-fuck, is the conscious effort to mock or "fuck with" traditional notions of gender identity,[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;42270331]Sorry if I'm wrong (and correct me if I am):
You can be biologically a male or female, you can have the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity"]gender identity[/URL] of a male or female. If your gender identity doesn't match your biological body, then you are a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender"]transgender[/URL] individual.
So, for instance, if you are biologically male (you have a dick) but have the gender identity of a female then you have a condition that, much like depression or schizophrenia or any other sort of mental condition, needs to be treated. That treatment involves diminishing the disparity between your gender identity and your actual body, which means that you can go through a physical transition that ultimately alleviates the feeling of "wrongness", I guess. This is a feeling that most people will never experience since their gender identity matches their body.
And then there's also sexual orientation, which is completely separated from both gender identity and your biological sex...[/QUOTE]
It was going so well until you decided it should be treated, gender dysphoria isn't that simple, you can't just treat it and even then should it be treated? Should you try and force someone to be happy with something they're not happy with when it's something as fundamental to their identity as their sex and gender?
I think what he meant by treated was going through HRT etc.
My bad, kinda tired and doing some work just now so i practically skimmed it and just saw disorder and schizophrenia v:v:v
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